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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:34 pm

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In post 441, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 6301, schadd_ wrote:at least one of the following players is in King Doris Donatello's Army:
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What if it's something silly like all 3 + Pickaxe Pete.
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:35 pm

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In post 428, Titus wrote:Can you vet mine in PP Chemist Bell SS?
My answer depends on you explaining what vet mining is. :P
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:42 pm

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In post 439, superbowl9 wrote:We are basically unkillable by scum at this point. @titus group i wanted to ask this but yall can choose when to exit after you reach the smaller point goal right? So you could choose to stay and help town with numbers?
We could, but that carries the risk of us getting 7 points--too many points and everyone but us loses, town included. We don't want that, so it's safer if we leave once we have the 4 we need.
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:43 pm

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(I'll do theorycrafting when caught up.)
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:48 pm

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In post 449, Titus wrote:Math is starting to feel like boxed scum.
What's your current solve?
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:49 pm

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Gamma Pete Tayl0r Chemist Math but no VCA to back that solve up
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:50 pm

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Most confident in Chemist but he's not eligible
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:10 pm

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In post 20, schadd_ wrote:
In post 15, Titus wrote:
Confirm us to A50 mod.
mastina, titus, and nero cain are all aligned and non-town. they have opted to reveal this fact. doing so did not provide them any benefits other than enabling contracting.

contracting: anyone in this neighborhood is able to propose a contract. contracts occur in the form of "if [event] occurs, then titus, mastina and nero cain (as well as any other member of their faction) must do [action] to the best of their ability or else the faction will exit the game in a loss." for instance, alice can propose "if i truthfully claim my role, then each member of the faction must vote bob for the rest of the day." i will confirm certain things individually to them in reaction to this, though spurious contracts which merely serve to confirm information (such as "i truthfully state that i am town") will not be accepted, unless they are verifying information from mastina, titus and nero cain's faction

i will be using my judgement a little bit to allow for gray areas and prevent game-breaking stuff.
Mod: would a valid contract be Almost50 truthfully claiming his role, then all of us voting for Pickaxe Pete for the rest of the day?
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:14 pm

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(I want to have an insurance policy for us getting the needed points if scum refuse to kill us. We have 1/4 already. A contract can get 2/4. A sacrifice can get 3/4. Successfully wagoning all of the scum in the game gets 5/4, more than needed, but still at no risk of going too high.

I proposed to Nero and Titus that we deliberately recruit someone in the POE list and force them to sacrifice themselves, as in, "either sacrifice yourself or be voted out", with the former being a free extra town reveal that a town player should be happy to agree to.)
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:25 pm

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In post 0, schadd_ wrote:at any time, members of this thread may choose to
sacrifice themself for the cause
by indicating desire to do so in bold. this will result in their immediate death.
Basically, my plan is to weaponize this power.

We may risk exposing this neighborhood to the scum and the info within to the scum if recruiting scum, BUT, the recruited scum would be outed as scum if they refused to sacrifice themselves for the cause, giving us a free third scum death.
And if the recruited person is town, then they can sacrifice themselves for the cause, for a free double-elimination. Two executions for the price of one.

If we get scum, free third scum death;
If we get town, then the town POE is narrowed by the death of a mislynch while also giving us one of the points we need.

If we get a point from the sacrifice, and a point from the contract, that gives us 3/4 of the needed points, while also helping the town.

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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:45 pm

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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:01 pm

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I like mastina's idea.
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:03 pm

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being on all the scum wagons but NOT being on any other town wagons seems like it would be hard to accomplish b/c we can't be on anymore miseliminations.

We have 1 point. Getting the 2 pts from a contract and then the SB elimination and then having at least one of us and end game seems like it would be the easiest way for town and us to win.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:19 pm

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Nero, I totally lost you.

We get 1 from the Gamma guess (locked), 2 from the executions (endgame), 1 from the explosion of who we pick.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:20 pm

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though once we hit another scum can safely start shooting us and we can get some points from that.
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:24 pm

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We don't get points from a contract?
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:28 pm

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to get points for being on all the scum wagons we ALSO have to have been on no more than 1 miselim.
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:29 pm

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we get 1 for a contract.
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:34 pm

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In post 456, Titus wrote:Most confident in Chemist but he's not eligible
chemist uses she/her
In post 457, mastina wrote:
Mod: would a valid contract be Almost50 truthfully claiming his role, then all of us voting for Pickaxe Pete for the rest of the day?
it would have been, sure. it is a lot more likely that i would be able to reply in a timely manner if you PM me about contracts and things
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:45 pm

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Why don't we just change it up?

A50 claims then we neighborize TGP. That can be the contract.
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:57 pm

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we aren't going to use the cotract thing yet.
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:17 pm

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thoughts on who to hood @ a50, norway, trash football team fan
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:08 pm

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In post 469, Titus wrote:Why don't we just change it up? A50 claims then we neighborize TGP. That can be the contract.
That works for me if the alliance approves of us going through with the plan.
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:10 pm

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Pickaxe Pete being a useless goon leads credelence to the idea that scum is selecting these pools maybe?
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:39 pm

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shelly
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are the pro-scum 3p faction
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