Death Curse

[Bell]

Wall me Romeo. I can take it.

Sorry it’s 1 am, and that was a phone post. So there are a lot of seeming inconsistencies that are related to specific time frames.

When I say you didn’t interact with your scum reads I mean before they got the scroll you mainly threw accusations at them. Whilst when interacting with me this wasn’t the case, but you never really led a wagon on me just said you were gunna push at me. Which you sorta did?

I dunno, I wish I talked to more people.

[Bell]

Good night.

[Hopkirk]

I guess Hopkirk and some regrets about not engaging other players more.

Pros:
A robot
Came in with a gimmick, abandoned that gimmick because it was hard.
Most of us have experience with gimmick accounts or entrances.
Instantly dropped the gimmick, did not slide back into it even accidentally like most town inevitably end up doing.

Cons: active
The post at the spectators was very ???? For scum.

Weirdness: playing a little below his capacity. Making assumptions about what scum would do in this scenario, instead of thinking about what scum are actually doing. Could be positioning. Could just be...his capacity. Perhaps better put pretty sure that thinking up what strategies scum might try to enact is very backwards from just reading unnatural interactions.

Sometimes makes these posts that seem totally pointless. Usually delineates between joke time and serious time.
But all serious all the time here after that be at the start and that other bit.

Led two wagons on town (probably). This is in weirdness because town lead wagons on town all the time. I’m a little iffy that he hasn’t directly communicated with most of his scum reads, while maybe (pretending) to have trouble reading me. It’s hard cause it’s not an uncommon thing for my initial posting to seem pretty vapid(because it is!). And there’s a lack of adaptation involved.

Don't expect much since most of your case is personality/playstyle (same as Mush/Lady who haven't played with me - which makes yours worse than theirs since you have).

Pros
-Robot?
-You try the gimmick.
-How exactly does someone 'slip back into' 8 syllable rhyming couplets? I have to count the beats with my fingers. I for one notice when my fingers are doing weird stuff.

Cons
-Activity isn't AI
-How the hell does that post only come from town-Hop. It's objectively NAI. I like making long joke posts because it's fun. I absolutely wouldn't force myself not to have fun if I rolled scum because having fun is why I play mafia.

Weirdness
-I don't like larges. Not sure what your specific issue is here.

Pointless posts - like the game we just played.

Final point - They weren't responding to me, and long 1v1s help you tunnel and lose objectivity more than develop a read so are meh in general. I was happy to vote any of my POE. Panda was the only wagon that got traction.

My playstyle in general - find townreads. Deepen townreads. Create POE. Vote off people in the POE. You saw this in the game we just played where I hard locktowned Pooky/Isis d1 and kept those locktownreads until we won. I think my approach to this game has been basically the same as this game, Pooky/Taylor seem to see that, so I'm not sure why you're reading me as really different.

[Hopkirk]

Don't expect any serious work before flips for fairly obvious reasons.

[Hectic]

Theta Alpine has been prodded.

[Bell]

If your strongest play is from town hunting why did you lead two wagons on town.

[Bell]

And why didn't you communicate with them?

[Bell]

Also, I have a microcosmic TR on Lapsa cause he just made a post that could have resulted in getting slapped with a scroll.
-Survivaism. ~ Not a great tell tbh.

[Bell]

Extra question.
Given your reasoning for taylor's play being from town and my play being an exaggerated form of that,
is the reason you're null scum reading me because I'm stepping on your toes while Taylor avoids isn't?

The playstyle argument makes less sense or at least my conception of town hunters is one in which unless they have something they feel strongly about they don't push wagons but tend to derail them.
I think you're not encapsulating your own playstyle well.
Which is rich because it's you talking about it so maybe I shouldn't talk since that's pretty ridiculous on its face.

[Bell]

Yeah. I made a notes PT because of that phone post so that I don't write crap like that in the thread since basically none of it is really clear.
One of those "what I'm TRYING to say" posts.

[Hopkirk]

If your strongest play is from town hunting why did you lead two wagons on town.

I don't see how you can interpret 'trying to find a group of locktowns, other townreads, then voting in the remaining players POE' in this manner (never lethaling town).
I'll be happy to engage with you again when you admit this post was intentionally misrepresenting what I said. Until then you're lock scrolled for me.

[Hopkirk]

I'll be very generous this time and say you can just admit it was misrepresentative rather than intentionally misrepresentative this time, but this is a limited time offer.

[Bell]

I can't admit to that because I wasn't intentionally misrepresenting your point. :3
The second paragraph in 2833# clarifies this point.

[Bell]

I also don't mind if you lock scroll me.
That's fine.

[Bell]

I will say however that there's something to be said about misrepresenting two players as scum when they weren't and then demanding that I retract my misrepresentation of you. With the caveat that it was also *intentional.*
As opposed to yours which were of course, not.

[Bell]

@Murdercat who's town to you?

[MURDERCAT]

Uhhhh

[Hopkirk]

Having two scumreads (one unflipped that I can still see flipping scum) be 'wrong' has gone from NAI to 100% scum very fast for you there.

[MURDERCAT]

I have a few reads but I want to reread after flips so ask me then

[Titus]

I dunno, I wish I talked to more people.

Talk to me after I am done moving?

[Bell]

Having two scumreads (one unflipped that I can still see flipping scum) be 'wrong' has gone from NAI to 100% scum very fast for you there.

I don't really understand what you mean.
I mean, sure they could flip scum. But I already explained my reasoning for why it's probably better to interact with them as if they were town given it harms nothing to do so.
I suppose later it might make me untouchable because I probably wouldn't want to make myself look like a clown as scum, but that's a problem for scum later down the line.

[Bell]

I dunno, I wish I talked to more people.

Talk to me after I am done moving?

Sure, take care Titus.

[Bell]

Like can you imagine me as scum telling Vax to throw the scroll at you when he was gunna do it anyway?
It seems silly. Or 11th dimensional chessy.

[Bell]

I have a few reads but I want to reread after flips so ask me then

aight.

[Hopkirk]

Having two scumreads (one unflipped that I can still see flipping scum) be 'wrong' has gone from NAI to 100% scum very fast for you there.

I don't really understand what you mean.
I mean, sure they could flip scum. But I already explained my reasoning for why it's probably better to interact with them as if they were town given it harms nothing to do so.
I suppose later it might make me untouchable because I probably wouldn't want to make myself look like a clown as scum, but that's a problem for scum later down the line.

You're claiming to have developed a strong scumread on me based on a flip (vax) that hasn't happened.
If he flips scum it doesn't sound like you're planning to retract your read on me.