Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

[DiamondSentinel]

Yeah cool. So because we've lost at this point, you guys were exactly right.

This setup is entirely town-sided to the point of being not remotely fun. As soon as that dethy claim happened, the game was over for us.

[SirCakez]

[DiamondSentinel]

Scum has literally no way to actually deal with the existence of all these masons.

[SirCakez]

probably would have gone better if Taylor didn't play terribly and get herself elimmed day 1
then the paranoia would be have been horrible in the dethy

[SirCakez]

is the game over? there has to be more scum right?

[SirCakez]

this confirms my game-long theory that scum were apathetic...

[DiamondSentinel]

Even then, I've seen it tried before off-site and having a dethy in the middle of a regular game just doesn't work as far as design goes. It's just too strong. They don't care about their cop results, it's all about being conf!town that scum isn't allowed to touch until the scum in the dethy dies.

[midwaybear]

Yay
tough game for scum
hope u aren't trolling though

[DiamondSentinel]

Ah shit you got me. I'm a giant troll. I'm actually a vengeful vengeful vengeful vengeful vengeful townie. I kill the last 5 people to vote for me. ggez

[SirCakez]

mmm if game isn't over I'm guessing it has to be Nahdia judging from the last two pages

[Tammy]

Even then, I've seen it tried before off-site and having a dethy in the middle of a regular game just doesn't work as far as design goes. It's just too strong. They don't care about their cop results, it's all about being conf!town that scum isn't allowed to touch until the scum in the dethy dies.

Which they did day one here

[DiamondSentinel]

Even then, I've seen it tried before off-site and having a dethy in the middle of a regular game just doesn't work as far as design goes. It's just too strong. They don't care about their cop results, it's all about being conf!town that scum isn't allowed to touch until the scum in the dethy dies.

Which they did day one here

Yep. It's a lose-lose.

If the scum in the dethy is alive, that's a pseudo-masonry. Yes there's 1 scum there, but town should ignore the dethy unless it's super obvious who is scum. It solves itself by day 3. If scum kills in the dethy, then they oust their member in it quickly.

If the scum in the dethy dies, you've lost a member, and now you're forced to kill in the dethy lest they solve the game. This protects the rest of the roles in the game (namely that vigilante).

The issue came that even our alternate kill (Bell's suicide bomb) takes us body-neutral unless used to kill a lover pair (thankfully that existed, which is why we were given it, I'd guess, but still, as you guys saw, that was a terrible move that I told Bell not to take). Today would have been rough today with Bell and I alive, but I genuinely think that we could have gotten a mis-elim and moved onwards to what would be a relatively solid footing.

Unfortunately, some folks still take my usual VI play as scum on the site. I'm terrible at the game, and unfortunately because of that, people are terrible at reading me.

[petapan]

peta your new avatar is giving me the creeps

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[Tammy]

I don’t think you’re a VI.

You just weren’t approaching the game with a town mindset.

[DiamondSentinel]

I don’t think you’re a VI.

You just weren’t approaching the game with a town mindset.

Case in point.

Literally exactly what I did here is exactly what I do

every

game. There was a bit more defeatism than usual, but I'm telling you, this was my normal play, scum or no.

[Tammy]

I don’t think you’re a VI.

You just weren’t approaching the game with a town mindset.

Case in point.

Literally exactly what I did here is exactly what I do

every

game. There was a bit more defeatism than usual, but I'm telling you, this was my normal play, scum or no.

Not really, no.

I looked at town games to give myself a baseline. I didn’t look to see how I read you in the games we played before though. Some of the words were similar, you were less direct here and felt to be posturing more, and you were kinda ignoring *this* game.

[Tammy]

I think you played up the paranoia angle well though!

[DiamondSentinel]

I wasn't playing it up. It was literally the only chance we had was for one of the town to be lying.

[Nahdia]

Yeah pretty much exactly what I figured.

So wait is the game over or is there another scum?

[SirCakez]

mmm someone is playing coy

[midwaybear]

Yeah it's probably nahdia lol

[Nahdia]

Nope!

[midwaybear]

then it's probably cakez
but you first

[Nahdia]

Yea. The person who exactly fixed onto and outed DS' scum mindset this game is his partner. Truly brilliant.

[midwaybear]

Fine, I'll think about this tomorrow