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[the worst]

vote count 1.30

DrippingGoofball (5)

: lilith2013, petapan, davesaz, Infinity 324, skitter30

Infinity 324 (3)

: Menalque, TheGoldenParadox, PenguinPower

davesaz (2)

: Hoopla, Uncrowned

Hoopla (1)

: Dunnstral

petapan (1)

: JacksonVirgo

lilith2013 (1)

: DrippingGoofball

Not voting

: Something_Smart,

Deadline: (expired on 2020-11-03 02:30:00)

With 14 alive it takes 8 to eliminate.

mod notes

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- skitter30 v/la Fridays & Saturdays.
- quack

[PenguinPower]

bray

[davesaz]

Meep meep (roadrunner sound)

[Uncrowned]

R u trying to say that only scum townreads you?

You're reading the phrase 'solve himself' rather differently than how i meant for it to be read, which is kinda adding to my confusion

Either way that's probably town so back yo dgb we go
VOTE: dgb

uhh, can you explain?

his posting there felt pretty stock standard in terms of the point being made

[skitter30]

He felt kinda smug, like he knows how to read himself better than i do and only town scumreads him for such silly things so he doesnt need to pursue it/protest it further

Idk how to explain it further but in the moment it didnt feel like a scum reaction from him

Like scum probably doesnt decide to make themselves even more unpopular just there by making a point about like having superior knowledge about grammar while being broadly uncooperative

And like he just didnt care abt being cooperative, which i think is a +town reaction

Idk how well i explained that, it makes sense in my head ^

[davesaz]

I often say we have two ears (eyes) and one mouth (keyboard) for a reason, and there is much value in reading much and saying little.

This, plus think 7th grader at a dance, sitting off to the side and hoping nobody comes over. That's my personality (not an act, RL personality). If someone else has already said it, I'm unlikely to comment or try to say it differently. Unless there is an obvious disagreement or misunderstanding. I will jump on a soapbox when there is something to jump up and down about but if not then don't expect anything.

I know there will be people who think it's suspicious, and there isn't a damn thing I can do about it.

[Something_Smart]

Who do you think would be a high priority NK then skitt?

Why are we talking about this

[petapan]

dunnstral might be scum tbh

[Uncrowned]

I kind of forgot Dunn existed in this game tbh

Just scanning over the ISO, I do see a lot of shading on "wagons" and generalisations that don't seem like actual scum hunting

[petapan]

i understand he just, like, lurks all the time but there's no heat there and everyone else in the single number i either townlean to some degree or is lilith

[Hoopla]

sorry friends, not meaning to lurk.

spooky season got a hold of me. will have patches of time today to throw out some one-liners & other quick thoughts.

[skitter30]

Idk where to vote really rn

[Hoopla]

Idk where to vote really rn

rats.

i was hoping to wake up today and see an obvious town leader step up and show the way.

~~

i've like melanque's entrance to the game. a good hustle, although (and i forget who mentioned this before), given he's been reading along since the beginning anyway, it's likely most of his insights came before his role PM, so he doesn't really get town credit for his explosion onto the scene.

i do agree with him on his thoughts about infinity. his slot has been underpressured relative to his actual content. usually when someone is getting by without pressure, despite being a bit all over the shop, it's because they're scum. when town posts in such a manner there are three more slots (scum), that are willing to seize the opportunity and to jump on posts that could be interpreted as suspicious.

[Something_Smart]

usually when someone is getting by without pressure, despite being a bit all over the shop, it's because they're scum.

Is this just because scum won't pressure their buddy if said buddy is not otherwise receiving pressure?

Because that's only 2/13 of the picture in this case.

[Hoopla]

my davesaz vote yesterday was mostly gut/PoE on the singletons, but this puts into words what i'm seeing:

Dave is making kinda oppurtunistic votes, and is kinda like

watching this game from a sort of meta/birds-eye view perspective

but isnt trying to actively solve himself really imo

it could be a personality thing like he claims, but it reminds of a habit/style i used to find myself gravitate towards in some of my old scum games.

[Something_Smart]

I feel like that's pretty par for the course for dave.

[petapan]

thought dave's reaction to the lolclaim was town

[skitter30]

Hoopla remind me why you're townreading me?

[Infinity 324]

my davesaz vote yesterday was mostly gut/PoE on the singletons, but this puts into words what i'm seeing:

Dave is making kinda oppurtunistic votes, and is kinda like

watching this game from a sort of meta/birds-eye view perspective

but isnt trying to actively solve himself really imo

it could be a personality thing like he claims, but it reminds of a habit/style i used to find myself gravitate towards in some of my old scum games.

Hoopla continues to try to find excuses to scumread people. Meta is available, you know...

[Hoopla]

Is this just because scum won't pressure their buddy if said buddy is not otherwise receiving pressure?

Because that's only 2/13 of the picture in this case.

i think scum are usually willing to turn a blind eye to a buddy's post that is a bit iffy, but that could be spun as scummy. whereas that calculation is less in play when a townie makes a similar style iffy post.

ergo, townies who post iffy 50/50 posts have more slots willing to interpret them as suspicious. so someone underpressured for what could be deemed pressure-worthy content can sometimes ping that intuitive "hmm, why aren't they being talked about" bell. it may only be a slight edge difference overall, which is why this tell is more an art than a science.

[Something_Smart]

There's evidence there to say that it makes someone somewhat more likely scum than random, but saying they're "usually" scum because there were only 11 slots that could call them out instead of 13 seems too strong.

It seems like a relatively minor factor to me.

[Hoopla]

I've played one game with hoopla a few years ago. If I really shouldn't be expecting hoopla to use more nuance, I think she should be pushing me more on it. In reality, a lot of my expectations come from this game, but it hasn't been something I've been able to articulate until now.

my town game is quite volatile. the game we played together my output was good, and how i try to always play as town. but i have put in a handful of stinkers over the years when life throws me a curveball.

Hoopla continues to try to find excuses to scumread people. Meta is available, you know...

i'm aware meta is available, but this is all time dependent. i set high standards for myself, and i want to read as much as i can, but unfortunately i only have so much time in the day.

for now, i'm prioritising "just posting" in lieu of committing to the required reading, given we're so close to deadline. hopefully the night phase will give me (and it seems like a few others) the chance to fully catch up and do some deeper contemplation.

[davesaz]

I think Dunn is under the radar a bit too much. Not sure about infinity will need to look again when I'm back at computer. I agree menalque stuff could just be prepared dump from anticipating replacing in.

[Hoopla]

Hoopla remind me why you're townreading me?

think of it less as a townread, and more like hedging my bets that you are.

if town, you have great value, and will probably net us 1 or more scum and soak up an NK. if not, it will likely become apparent when the town is being led down the gardenpath.

i hope this isn't too cryptic of answer. but it is how i think about D1 executions.

[skitter30]

And your perception of me is just from this game, yes?