976: mystyry box of sylvyr I: isis game. day 3

[mastina]

VOTE: Gypyx

VOTE: NicCage.
While I still find DoubtingThomas's content to, overall, by and large, look hella-scummy, their push against Gypyx actually looks sincere to me and I can buy them being incredibly-scummy town that is making a push they believe in.

I do not buy that from NicCage, whose push is far far more forced and opportunistic.

[NicCage]

It's not forced.

Mastina, do you have an opinion on Gypyx?

[SKYEscrapers]

yes towns make scummy posts all the time. scums are the ones trying to actively look as townie as possible, albeit good portion of people do try to play too wolfy to be a wolf game

trying to decipher one's slot based on a few posts that of your personal opinion you believe is 'scummy' and 'townie' is rarely going to be very accurate.

however, trying to push on what you believe and getting reactions, interacting with multiple people really does the trick. so keep at it boys and girls and the others!

what are you responding to here? i agree with this, but i don't know why you said it.

it makes sense if you read you and gypsy's posts together

I don't know which posts you're referring to.

i don't understand where you're coming from with things

mew

I'm just asking the meaning of a word like, bruh x)

no, that is my answer to the question. that's what i mean by not jelling. specifically, i don't like your townread of that ari post or your scumread of thomas. you seemed to even concede to my points on thomas, but you're still voting them because they still might be scum???? even though you could say that about anyone else????

mew

Ah okay i see, well the ari townread is gut, and thomas is still the person i'm the most suspicious about, wdym by "ever thought you could say that about anyone else"?

well, why are you suspicious of them? you could say about anyone that you haven't given a townread to. everyone might be scum at the start, but why specifically are you suspecting thomas. you agreed to my counter argument to thomas being scum for the reasons you were arguing, and you haven't presented any other arguments.

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however, i don't think gypyx's question about nic is scum indicative. at least not to the degree that thomas is making it out to be. for me, it would be the lack of other things.

Like the run of posts starting with post 108, I think DT

does

actually have a point but is also hugely overselling it.

The overselling it seems even more suspicious to me.

But I'm also pretty okay with a Gypyx elimination at the moment.

mind melding with this

[SKYEscrapers]

keep forgetting

mew

[DoubtingThomas]

I think it’s currently at
DT (3): Akarin, Gypyx, Mastina
gypyx (2): DT, SKYE
SKYE (1): PlusJOYED
NicCage (1): Nona

Not Voting: (2): Dunn, NicCage

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For future reference, Page 2 DT vs. SKYE peak wagons were:
DT (3): Akarin, SKYE, Gypyx
SKYE (3): PlusJOYED, Mastina, DT

1 scum in akarin/gypxy/mastina

and 1 in skye/plustjoyed/nona/dunn/niccage i think

What about the votecounts makes you think this?

i can go with akarin/gypyx/mastina very not likely to w/w

Also why?

I mean. I just find it less likely for 2/2 wolves to get on me 5 pages into the game. I am more likely to see at least 1 wolf is in the 3, although it's not an impossibility to have both wolves to not have voted me. regardless, i independently scum read xygypx

[Dunnstral]

The above seems like bad logic to me

mastina thinks I'm scum why?

[DoubtingThomas]

it's not a logic that i will live nor die by. no one has done more than me this game so far and i am of opinion, sometimes simple logics do work when people do not expect it.

dunnstral, i'd rather have you say bad logics than post nothing like you pretty much are doing

[NicCage]

I notice Nona has logged in to the site Saturday, but her last post was on Thursday, and that this is her only game. Nona, I hope you can at least throw in a token post. I'd still like to know your reasoning behind voting me, I don't think that should require much research and reading.

[SKYEscrapers]

I notice Nona has logged in to the site Saturday, but her last post was on Thursday, and that this is her only game. Nona, I hope you can at least throw in a token post. I'd still like to know your reasoning behind voting me, I don't think that should require much research and reading.

I strongly dislike this direction of reads. I am often active onsite, but activity in a game is a different commitment.

They are overdue for a prod, so Mod will deal with that. Otherwise it's meh unless you have lurkerscum meta for Nona?

- Ari

P.s. I've been reading and have many thoughts but am busy enough to not comment too much. It'll come later.

[NicCage]

That's not a read. My assumption is she isn't sure what to post, being a newer player, but I think that at least my question is an easy one to answer. Anything is better than nothing is all I am trying to communicate.

I also looked at PlusJOYED's posting history, but I see the words 'prodge' and 'burnout' from a different game.

I think inactivity is neutral, but it doesn't help us. And also I'm bored and I want to play.

[DoubtingThomas]

Town's are more likely to at least be posting a post or two (whether or not that post is full of content is a different issue) in a mafia game. Especially if it's their only game?

Like of course they don't have to log in just to play mafia game. However, I think this early into the game it makes a lot of sense to be more engaged and some what interested in solving, but it looks like nona person is not exactly doing that based on the fact that they logged in on Sat and haven't posted since Thurs.

While it doesn't make them wolf 100% of the time, and I do want to resolve gypyxy before her regardless, it should be something that should be in all of our minds going forward.

I also think NicCage is likely to be town for looking at things outside of the game state. Hard to imagine a wolf to be checking people's activity and when they logged in or not.

[DoubtingThomas]

hi

nice try scum pgo

that's interesting

considering that ari also expected to be read better by you, i guess it's likely true.

VOTE: NicCage

It's been 5-6 days since game started, and we have at least some level of content in the 6 pages for nona to say more stuff, which she has not. I mean. She can't be left alive til MYLO with this sort of effort

[DoubtingThomas]

I notice Nona has logged in to the site Saturday, but her last post was on Thursday, and that this is her only game. Nona, I hope you can at least throw in a token post. I'd still like to know your reasoning behind voting me, I don't think that should require much research and reading.

I strongly dislike this direction of reads. I am often active onsite, but activity in a game is a different commitment.

They are overdue for a prod, so Mod will deal with that. Otherwise it's meh unless you have lurkerscum meta for Nona?

- Ari

P.s. I've been reading and have many thoughts but am busy enough to not comment too much. It'll come later.

Like this is an example of a post. Even though you admit yourself that you ARE busy, because (I think you are at least) you are town, or at least capable of presenting townieness (as wolf) that you are able to respond to niccage. while it is not game related, you aren't afraid or dodge-y when it comes to posting. I think nona has had enough time to at least write a "I think X is Y" or ask questions like "Hey X why did you Y?" but she has not which is alarming

[PlusJOYED]

Could you like, elaborate on these reads instead of just saying town / scum

I'm told that's what mastina does every game. I for one have no issue with it. Early readlists don't require much explanation

I'd rather have the reads be explained, can't hurt

agree. But this early I think its fine

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prodding nona

[Akarin]

I mean. I just find it less likely for 2/2 wolves to get on me 5 pages into the game. I am more likely to see at least 1 wolf is in the 3, although it's not an impossibility to have both wolves to not have voted me. regardless, i independently scum read xygypx

There's like a 64% (?) chance for any random group of 3 to have a scum in them at this size, right?

Do you actually think it's more likely than a random set of 3 players?

[Akarin]

@ PlusJOYED

What do you think of the DoubtingThomas/Gypyx/NicCage?

[Gypyx]

Hey sorry for the lack of posting, real life been quite busy

So, i kinda doubt that both nic and thomas are scum together, for the reason that like, we have 4 low activity slots i don't think these slots are all town, therefore by PoE i'd say that nic is very likely town

[Gypyx]

Could you like, elaborate on these reads instead of just saying town / scum? I'd especially like to see your reason behind the read on nona and thomas

Can I? Yes.

Will I?

Only if need be, and right now I don't feel the need to, so no.

And why that? What's the incentive to not give the reasons behind your reads?

[NicCage]

I also think NicCage is likely to be town for looking at things outside of the game state. Hard to imagine a wolf to be checking people's activity and when they logged in or not.

No, scum can do it, it's easy to do. It doesn't require me to take any difficult position, and I don't have to defend it since it's an objective fact.
Also, don't do what I did lol rules

So, i kinda doubt that both nic and thomas are scum together, for the reason that like, we have 4 low activity slots i don't think these slots are all town, therefore by PoE i'd say that nic is very likely town

What do you think about my read on you? Does it have any bearing on your read on me?

[PlusJOYED]

@ PlusJOYED

What do you think of the DoubtingThomas/Gypyx/NicCage?

I agree there is most likely at least 1 scum in there. I'm not townreading any of them and they give off a bit of scum energy. Of the 3 I'd say gypx is probably a good place to go. Imo he's most likely red.

Wasn't a fan of NicCage entrance and focus on what scum do vs what town do.

Gypx has been doubtful of most posts; he's been critiquing more than he puts out which is bad sign.

Doubting seems overconfident but the rest of his stuff seems fine.

I think NicCage will be more likely to provide good insight if he's town than Gypyx being town. Lets go Gypx
VOTE: Gypyx

[NicCage]

provisional UNVOTE: Gypyx

[Dunnstral]

I think the activity argument is a bad one, Nona can be town and lurking out, there really isn't a way to tell yet. Why unvote above?

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