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[Infinity 324]

Honestly have no idea how people regularly get real scumreads on d1.

[Flavor Leaf]

JV, gamma slot, VP, and mark are town.

this is what I'm talking about. You're pushing slots and piggybacking here, and it looks like gamestate manipulation to get those 4 slots to see the world from your "pov", which if you are scum, this is how you control games. You pushing that much faith looks fake to me, and looks like you're trying to create a squad to both a) take blame for a potential misfade, b) make sure they don't join in on voting you.

You positioned me in the slight townie position which allows you to keep me at ease, but able to flip on me in a moment's notice if I become an issue for you.

[Infinity 324]

I'm literally just listing townreads and you're interpreting it to be an agenda wtf

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm also seeing a possible DGB/DKK pairing, which could explain why DGB went on to Gera here, as that's a wagon that could gain steam, and I feel like Dkk is likely the scummiest, most likely to get momentum on them as either alignment coming up, so if DGB senses that too, and is partners with Dkk, Gera push is incredibly strong, especially because DGB couldn't stay on me due to if they are scum, them having to do a hell of a lot of work on Day 1 to fight because of circular reasoning.

a theory, though. If they are the scum team, that is what is happening right now.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm literally just listing townreads and you're interpreting it to be an agenda wtf

isn't that how to play Mafia? Look for the agenda.

I could be wrong. If you are town, I don't think this reaction of your makes that much sense. I never implied like I thought I was 100% correct, I was simply stating a scenario I believe could be happening, as I did with DGB/Dkk.

It's too early for me to actually think 100% I could be correct, but I feel like I'm on a good path here. Even if I am wrong, this will open things up. I don't necessarily think I am wrong, though.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Marky Mark

I am not low info. Trust me when I get a bee in my bonnet, I'll spam harder than DkKoba.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm also seeing a possible DGB/DKK pairing

It's called

"I'm townreading DKK."

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm also seeing a possible DGB/DKK pairing

It's called

"I'm townreading DKK."

This is a possibility, sure.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm literally just listing townreads and you're interpreting it to be an agenda wtf

Scum don't list town reads, they keep all their options open.

Their town reads are the players they're going to have to NK, so scum like to keep the town read pool small and nebulous.

[Infinity 324]

I'm literally just listing townreads and you're interpreting it to be an agenda wtf

isn't that how to play Mafia? Look for the agenda.

I could be wrong. If you are town, I don't think this reaction of your makes that much sense. I never implied like I thought I was 100% correct, I was simply stating a scenario I believe could be happening, as I did with DGB/Dkk.

I think you developed a scenario that could make a lot of sense for scum!me, but are not really considering my words at face value (i.e. I have no motivation and a few strong townreads but nothing else).

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm literally just listing townreads and you're interpreting it to be an agenda wtf

Scum don't list town reads, they keep all their options open.

Their town reads are the players they're going to have to NK, so scum like to keep the town read pool small and nebulous.

I don't know how strong of a scum player Infinity is. The POE was rather high number still, and I don't see the lean towns as town reads, as he stated them in a manner which he could easily turn.

In that regard, since it's Day 1, it's also easy to flip your stronger town reads, but he's just actively pushing like there's 4 strong townies for him, and he also has stated he doesn't know how to get scum reads Day 1, and if he's able to convince himself that he has that many town reads, that doesn't add up for me. He should question his town reads in that case, which I don't think he does, because I think they are fake reads to begin with.

[DkKoba]

VOTE: Marky Mark

I am not low info. Trust me when I get a bee in my bonnet, I'll spam harder than DkKoba.

now THIS i have to see because im hard to beat except on my homesite

[Infinity 324]

He should question his town reads in that case

I questioned them, ISO'd them, and determined that they look town. Now what.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm literally just listing townreads and you're interpreting it to be an agenda wtf

isn't that how to play Mafia? Look for the agenda.

I could be wrong. If you are town, I don't think this reaction of your makes that much sense. I never implied like I thought I was 100% correct, I was simply stating a scenario I believe could be happening, as I did with DGB/Dkk.

I think you developed a scenario that could make a lot of sense for scum!me, but are not really considering my words at face value (i.e. I have no motivation and a few strong townreads but nothing else).

I agree with this. Is that not a decent way to look for scum or cause meaningful discussion? I think my vote towards you has already helped move this game forward.

I disagree with the no motivation part. You being scum is the motivation, it's Day 1, so you just have to establish presence, which you are doing.

Yes, I see the world you can be town here, but I don't think it's any more likely than scum you at this point. And 50/50 is solid odds in Mafia.

[DkKoba]

I'm literally just listing townreads and you're interpreting it to be an agenda wtf

Scum don't list town reads, they keep all their options open.

Their town reads are the players they're going to have to NK, so scum like to keep the town read pool small and nebulous.

scum also can approach by having ~too many townreads~ but overall it is where these reads stem from that is what matters etc. its not black and white.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Marky Mark

I am not low info. Trust me when I get a bee in my bonnet, I'll spam harder than DkKoba.

now THIS i have to see because im hard to beat except on my homesite

You lot really don't wanna force me to have to keep up with you guys activity wise because I will.

[DkKoba]

me, not reading marks long bs posts anymore

That's rude and there's no need for that tone :S

So I've asked you multiple times to explain your inconsistent behaviour in 909, you've deflected this and instead flung a bunch of accusations my way. When I've worked through and responded to them methodically you now decide to discredit them by saying they are too long to read. I hope you can see how this massively constructive for anyone involved.

--Side note, I am totally open to constructive feedback if people are finding posting style/length/etc difficult to digest, but let's please treat each other with respect

stop gaslighting me thx

[Marky Mark]

Seeing as POEs are the hot topic rn...

{gerain, koba, DGB, andres, zdenek} is my PoE atm

Is this still your POE given you now claim to be light TRing DGB and Zedenek is being replaced ergo the slot is in limbo?

VOTE: Marky Mark

I am not low info. Trust me when I get a bee in my bonnet, I'll spam harder than DkKoba.

Then prove it by pushing the game forwards and responding to the question I've asked you a couple of times about your inconsistent reads on N_M/Geraint

Threatening to spam me harder than koba because I'm voting you is not making me think you are town rn. Actively scumhunting, applying scrutiny and backing up your posts with justification would though.

[Infinity 324]

I'm literally just listing townreads and you're interpreting it to be an agenda wtf

isn't that how to play Mafia? Look for the agenda.

I could be wrong. If you are town, I don't think this reaction of your makes that much sense. I never implied like I thought I was 100% correct, I was simply stating a scenario I believe could be happening, as I did with DGB/Dkk.

I think you developed a scenario that could make a lot of sense for scum!me, but are not really considering my words at face value (i.e. I have no motivation and a few strong townreads but nothing else).

I agree with this. Is that not a decent way to look for scum or cause meaningful discussion? I think my vote towards you has already helped move this game forward.

I disagree with the no motivation part. You being scum is the motivation, it's Day 1, so you just have to establish presence, which you are doing.

Yes, I see the world you can be town here, but I don't think it's any more likely than scum you at this point. And 50/50 is solid odds in Mafia.

No motivation = I'm not motivated to play this game atm. And yes, it makes sense you pressured me. I'm frustrated. Keep doing what you're doing I guess. I do think talking to gamma about reads will help my motivation/play a lot.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Infinity - How come you focused on the push towards you and ignored the Dkk/DGB pairing, which would effectively mean I think you town? Unless I just drew 3 scum into the thread from that push, which could be possible. The vote was meant to act as a lightning rod of such.

[Marky Mark]

me, not reading marks long bs posts anymore

That's rude and there's no need for that tone :S

So I've asked you multiple times to explain your inconsistent behaviour in 909, you've deflected this and instead flung a bunch of accusations my way. When I've worked through and responded to them methodically you now decide to discredit them by saying they are too long to read. I hope you can see how this massively constructive for anyone involved.

--Side note, I am totally open to constructive feedback if people are finding posting style/length/etc difficult to digest, but let's please treat each other with respect

stop gaslighting me thx

Cross-posted with this. Please explain, clearly, how you feel I am gaslighting you. To avoid an earlier misunderstanding we had, I am not looking for a definition of the term gaslighting, but for you to explain how my actions are gaslighting you.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm literally just listing townreads and you're interpreting it to be an agenda wtf

isn't that how to play Mafia? Look for the agenda.

I could be wrong. If you are town, I don't think this reaction of your makes that much sense. I never implied like I thought I was 100% correct, I was simply stating a scenario I believe could be happening, as I did with DGB/Dkk.

I think you developed a scenario that could make a lot of sense for scum!me, but are not really considering my words at face value (i.e. I have no motivation and a few strong townreads but nothing else).

I agree with this. Is that not a decent way to look for scum or cause meaningful discussion? I think my vote towards you has already helped move this game forward.

I disagree with the no motivation part. You being scum is the motivation, it's Day 1, so you just have to establish presence, which you are doing.

Yes, I see the world you can be town here, but I don't think it's any more likely than scum you at this point. And 50/50 is solid odds in Mafia.

No motivation = I'm not motivated to play this game atm. And yes, it makes sense you pressured me. I'm frustrated. Keep doing what you're doing I guess. I do think talking to gamma about reads will help my motivation/play a lot.

I actually think being not motivated to play the game easily can be scum orientated. I don't see that as AI.

Scum you wouldn't be frustrated from me going onto them, is what you're saying?

[DkKoba]

im not interested in interacting with u anymore

[DkKoba]

mark: asks 50 million questions and cherrypicks those that dont answer every single one of them as their scumread.

sorry but no.

[Marky Mark]

im not interested in interacting with u anymore

So that's twice in an evening that you've accused me of something, I've taken the time to respond to you and then you've just changed the subject.