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[DkKoba]

Marky Mark could be smooth scum, smooth enough where I probably wouldn't vote them out Day 1.

Dkk-Marky could be Dkk scum making it look like they're doing something with MarkyMark, which distracts a townMarky.

Or ScumMarky could be playing with DkScum.

I don't think I see that as S/S anywhere. Could be T/T if I'm just off the mark.

I'm trying to find scum right now, so I might be seeing things that aren't there regarding the gamestate, but that's fine for Day 1, I feel.

PEdit:
Interesting Dkk is trying to stop the discussion on that now.

anyways im coming back to this post and just getting rly annoyed ppl wanna let ppl like mark deepwolf easily on d1 when they've been slipping the longer they've been talking.

[Glitch]

Zdenek has been prodded a second time. He will force replaced in (expired on 2020-11-02 19:05:00) unless he posts game advancing content. This will be his final prod.

[Infinity 324]

yeah but why should infinity's reads should depend on you?

This is really frustrating because it feels like you're not even trying to understand me. Engaging with people is how I play mafia. In difficult games I look to people I've played with a decent amount before or who I have similar styles to in order to get a second opinion. One of the reasons I'm struggling so much here, as I thought was pretty apparent, is that I don't have that.

i feel like we normally have that. thats one of the reasons ive been so hard on you. im not trying to twist anything you say. im sorry if it feels harsh. i just normally feel like i can work with you, but here i dont see your perspective. whats going on? whats different about this game thats making it difficult?

also, what are your thoughts right now about the game? doesnt have to be a readlist, but give me something to work with.

In haunted village we barely even talked, in matrix decipher you were scum. What's happening this game is that I'm lost and don't have scumreads, and I don't really understand how to follow my townreads' logic, which is making it hard for me to engage with them. Plus there are a bunch of slots that are just unsortable because they don't post content. This game just sucks.

[Tayl0r Swift]

yeah but why should infinity's reads should depend on you?

This is really frustrating because it feels like you're not even trying to understand me. Engaging with people is how I play mafia. In difficult games I look to people I've played with a decent amount before or who I have similar styles to in order to get a second opinion. One of the reasons I'm struggling so much here, as I thought was pretty apparent, is that I don't have that.

i feel like we normally have that. thats one of the reasons ive been so hard on you. im not trying to twist anything you say. im sorry if it feels harsh. i just normally feel like i can work with you, but here i dont see your perspective. whats going on? whats different about this game thats making it difficult?

also, what are your thoughts right now about the game? doesnt have to be a readlist, but give me something to work with.

In haunted village we barely even talked, in matrix decipher you were scum. What's happening this game is that I'm lost and don't have scumreads, and I don't really understand how to follow my townreads' logic, which is making it hard for me to engage with them. Plus there are a bunch of slots that are just unsortable because they don't post content. This game just sucks.

who are your townreads?

[Infinity 324]

1401 is where I'm at, though tomorrow I want to reevaluate. Andres and VP specifically I feel like I could maybe come to a better opinion of by ISO'ing.

[Tayl0r Swift]

1401 is where I'm at, though tomorrow I want to reevaluate. Andres and VP specifically I feel like I could maybe come to a better opinion of by ISO'ing.

im curious about gamma too. why is VP at the top if you think you need to re-evaluate?

[Infinity 324]

Because it's kind of a lazy read tbh. I've liked his lines of questioning, and the tone thing he mentioned earlier. But I kind of find it hard to believe he only saw the issues with my reads when others pointed them out, since we've both been pretty active.

[Infinity 324]

I thought shelly was really trying to sort, and I really liked that gamma was willing to throw out the "shelly widely TRed means scum" without checking to see if it applied to this game, since it's something that could be used against him. But I'll look into that one as well.

[Gypyx]

Official Vote Count 1.08

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Official Vote Count 1.09

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate someone.

Infinity 324: 3

(geraintm, Andresvmb, Flavor Leaf, Tayl0r Swift)

Not_Mafia: 2

(Not_Mafia, Gamma Emerald)

Marky Mark: 2

(DkKoba, DrippingGoofball)

geraintm: 2

(VP Baltar , DrippingGoofball)

DkKoba: 1

(JacksonVirgo)

DrippingGoofball: 1

(Marky Mark)

Not Voting: 2

(Zdenek, Infinity 234)

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-11-06 00:19:20).

Mod notes: glitch just needs help for one VC

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[Gypyx]

(Don't mind the quote pls)

[Tayl0r Swift]

it kinda feels like a lot of your reads are a bit lazy, but if youre struggling to get invested in the game then that makes sense anyway. what can we do to help you buy in?

[Infinity 324]

Talk to me when I go over stuff tomorrow, and challenge the things you still think are lazy. Explaining why some of my townreads may be wrong could help, cause that may be what's going on here.

[DkKoba]

holy shit DGB has TWO votes...

[DkKoba]

absolute madwoman

[Gypyx]

Official Vote Count 1.09

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Official Vote Count 1.09

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate someone.

Infinity 324: 4

(geraintm, Andresvmb, Flavor Leaf, Tayl0r Swift)

Not_Mafia: 2

(Not_Mafia, Gamma Emerald)

Marky Mark: 2

(DkKoba, DrippingGoofball)

geraintm: 1

(VP Baltar)

DkKoba: 1

(JacksonVirgo)

DrippingGoofball: 1

(Marky Mark)

Not Voting: 2

(Zdenek, Infinity 234)

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-11-06 00:19:20).

Mod notes: There u go, fixed

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[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: DkKoba

Obvscum

[geraintm]

I am happy to listen to the more experienced players here in terms of what has historically proven to be effective, but I think we need to have a coherent plan of what we are going to do about low activity slots (ie N_M, Geraint, Zdenek, DGB) that are currently coasting as we could quite conceiveably get to D2 and have 4 players in the pool that have very little for us to make a read off.

more than happy to hear how people can better work out my alignment. I recognise it is a problem I have

DKKOba - I just dislike the slot. votes for Taylor who is not getting lynched, a push for me, then a switch vote to Mark.
infinity then comes along later and says koba is too scummy to be scum. I can believe that.

JV, gamma slot, VP, and mark are town. Getting townvibes from taylor, DGB, flavor. I said koba is too scummy to be scum but really I just have no idea how to read them.

I think that is 9 people in town in one post?

Honestly have no idea how people regularly get real scumreads on d1.

this ^^

btw, taylor has played with me before and when they say I am easily solvable, I think I am. I don't think I am a good player when I am mafia. I am too obvious (or at least I think I am).
[I am also a bad town player for what it is worth, scum should def not night kill me...]

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Dkk

Let’s go! Flash wagon.

[JacksonVirgo]

Flash wagon lessgoooooooooooo

[JacksonVirgo]

Hard-claiming masonry with FL

[JacksonVirgo]

VP townread is largely tone

tone is alignment indicative

This is a pointless post, what did you mean by this?

[Flavor Leaf]

Yo I’m already veering on the side of I feel like I’m gonna get night killed, don’t give em more reason.

Supposed to claim that Day 3.

After Dkk flips red, All docs on me

[JacksonVirgo]

Yo I’m already veering on the side of I feel like I’m gonna get night killed, don’t give em more reason.

Supposed to claim that Day 3.

After Dkk flips red, All docs on me

Oh, sorry... I thought you told me to

[JacksonVirgo]

Oh I misread

[JacksonVirgo]

what did you notice in the last few pages that was different?

You’ve been engaging people and pressuring who you think is scum. Honestly I hadn’t seen much scumhunting from you until the last few pages, mostly just saying reads.

Are you coaching them in scum chat rn?

Why do you keep saying this when you know Scum don’t have Day Talk?

Honestly? I think they're trying to derp-clear themself