Death Curse

[Gloria Cleary]

You know, with 17 players left in this game, I really would appreciate it if everyone only post if they have something meaningful to say. Below is an example of completely inessential conversation that could have been done using the site chat. Please use the site chat for conversations like this. You won't get banned. It's not game related.

Fredrick: complains about no game advancing content
Fredrick again: Doesn't give game advancing content at all

lol
fred order these names from town->scum NOW
fidget
taylor
theta
bell
gloria

I don't really care if you mind this or not, but I have another readlist that reflects what I am thinking better than your random set of five that you just chose.

Town to scum:
MUSHSHAGANA, Gloria Cleary, Fidget, all players not on this list (null), Tayl0r Swift, Noraa

I actually like this post but why are Tayl0r and especially Noraa scum?

So, can I take it then, that bell and theta are null reads for you?

UNVOTE:

I’m going to unvote this for now.

[Gloria Cleary]

And how did you reach that conclusion?

well i started by reading your posts, and then i thought about it real hard for about 3 seconds

do you like this answer from TSwift Fred?

Is it something you can see a town player saying or does it look more like scum who has no idea how to back up their fake thoughts?

I actually didn't like it, but I made a decision to [REDACTED FOR NOW TILL THE PLAN IS ENACTED OR CANCELLED].

Meanwhile, I actually can see this coming from a town player, which is a reason why I decided to not push Tayl0r Swift on it. However, in addition to this instance, I have taken note of this second instance and am mildly scumreading her.

@Tayl0r, why can’t you give reasons? You have to know that doesn’t look good, right?

[Gloria Cleary]

Actually, Gloria, I seriously thought that was what she meant and it didn't make sense to me, but I couldn't make better sense of it.

Well, if you ever order for me, you can’t go wrong with sushi.

(sorry MUSH, couldn’t resist).

[Fredrick A Campbell]

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I actually like this post but why are Tayl0r and especially Noraa scum?

So, can I take it then, that bell and theta are null reads for you?

UNVOTE:

I’m going to unvote this for now.

Yeah, you could and they are. I think Noraa is scum because of how she reacted to everyone scumreading her for the townslip. As for Tayl0r Swift, I just dislike their tendency to evade answering questions.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

EBWOP: *her tendency to evade answering questions.

[Gloria Cleary]

Could someone tell me why they are townreading Noraa or Tayl0r Swift? I am absolutely not.

Noraa’s emotional range is much greater here than in any of her scumgames + she’s making detailed, nuanced readslists. She didn’t do that in ANY of her scumgames and here, she’s doing that like it’s going out of style almost.

So, either Noraa’s suddenly switched up her scum meta or she’s town. The readslist also reads super genuine and not coached, so I’m obviously a lot more confident on Noraa!town than Tayl0r, especially after skimming The Trials but I still think it could be playstyle.

I’ve already explained Tayl0r but she should definitely be able to give reasons for that read, I did.

[Gloria Cleary]

[quote="In Insert quotation of post 4395 here

I actually like this post but why are Tayl0r and especially Noraa scum?

So, can I take it then, that bell and theta are null reads for you?

UNVOTE:

I’m going to unvote this for now.

Yeah, you could and they are. I think Noraa is scum because of how she reacted to everyone scumreading her for the townslip. As for Tayl0r Swift, I just dislike their tendency to evade answering questions.

My issue with that, is I’d have been miselimed in many of my past games based on that. In one of my early games (warning! repeat post), I almost got elimed in the span of 2 hours for flipping out over 2 joke rvs votes. I kid you not. So, reactions to being scumread, unless they clearly contradict prior meta are NAI to me. Otoh, the whole readslist thing is HUGE, because it’s one of the absolute hardest things to ever fake well as scum, especially for a newbie player. And the sheer absence of any readslists in any of her scumgames, I think is really telling.

Plus, there was the “go eat your hat” response to LLD which just sounds too over the top confident to have come from scum!Noraa.

[Gloria Cleary]

Taylor wagon is not gonna go thru today. No fucking way.

I still think Tayl0r is town here but if I’m wrong, Noraa definitely doesn’t look like a buddy.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Thanks, Gloria Cleary. I wouldn't go as far and put Noraa as town just yet, though. I may be biased against this method of determining alignment, but I don't really trust townreading someone over readlists. You have convinced me that the reason for which I am scumreading Noraa is just not a good reason, though, so I am placing Noraa as null.

To add on to my scumread on Tayl0r Swift, I absolutely dislike how Tayl0r Swift defended Noraa so hard (in the first 300 posts of the game) because Tayl0r Swift had no reason to be calling Noraa town. Tayl0r Swift, if you think revealing why you were townreading Noraa would invalidate it as a way to townread Noraa, let me tell you that explaining why you were townreading Noraa would not invalidate it as a way to townread Noraa because whatever reason you were townreading Noraa for, if it is a good reason, it would stay a good reason to townread Noraa. If you disagree with this (the last sentence), explain why you disagree with me.

[shellyc]

Thanks, Gloria Cleary. I wouldn't go as far and put Noraa as town just yet, though. I may be biased against this method of determining alignment, but I don't really trust townreading someone over readlists. You have convinced me that the reason for which I am scumreading Noraa is just not a good reason, though, so I am placing Noraa as null.

To add on to my scumread on Tayl0r Swift, I absolutely dislike how Tayl0r Swift defended Noraa so hard (in the first 300 posts of the game) because Tayl0r Swift had no reason to be calling Noraa town. Tayl0r Swift, if you think revealing why you were townreading Noraa would invalidate it as a way to townread Noraa, let me tell you that explaining why you were townreading Noraa would not invalidate it as a way to townread Noraa because whatever reason you were townreading Noraa for, if it is a good reason, it would stay a good reason to townread Noraa. If you disagree with this (the last sentence), explain why you disagree with me.

fred: ok lets sr noraa
gloria: no this is bad
fidget: no this is bad
fred: oh noraa is null

please tell me how this isn't scum fitting reads to the situation

[shellyc]

still exists but uno is like 80% scum and you're 75%

still want you to do my ordering tho

Any reasons?

@Fred, why no comment on Shelley’s ordering request?

I didn't actually understand what that meant.

I interpreted it as she was requesting an ordered readslist on those slots.

I misinterpreted that post as shellyc asking me to order her some food as I misinterpreted the part of this post where she asks me to make this readlist as her own readlist. I'll get to work on it now.

lmao

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Thanks, Gloria Cleary. I wouldn't go as far and put Noraa as town just yet, though. I may be biased against this method of determining alignment, but I don't really trust townreading someone over readlists. You have convinced me that the reason for which I am scumreading Noraa is just not a good reason, though, so I am placing Noraa as null.

To add on to my scumread on Tayl0r Swift, I absolutely dislike how Tayl0r Swift defended Noraa so hard (in the first 300 posts of the game) because Tayl0r Swift had no reason to be calling Noraa town. Tayl0r Swift, if you think revealing why you were townreading Noraa would invalidate it as a way to townread Noraa, let me tell you that explaining why you were townreading Noraa would not invalidate it as a way to townread Noraa because whatever reason you were townreading Noraa for, if it is a good reason, it would stay a good reason to townread Noraa. If you disagree with this (the last sentence), explain why you disagree with me.

fred: ok lets sr noraa
gloria: no this is bad
fidget: no this is bad
fred: oh noraa is null

please tell me how this isn't scum fitting reads to the situation

No, shellyc, that wasn't even what happened.

[Gloria Cleary]

I'm willing to eat my hat

go eat your hat

Found it, finally.

This post in itself is highly town indicative, unless you’re a Flavor Leaf or a RadiantCowbells.

[shellyc]

This post in itself is highly town indicative, unless you’re a Flavor Leaf or a RadiantCowbells.

how is it town!AI though?

Noraa is extremely confident (think scum!me has been rubbing off actually) as either alignment

[Bell]

Gloria why do you think Fred is town?

[Bell]

I don't think I actually care for your reasoning and just want to slap you down because I want Fred eliminated.

I don't think that's a good place to start from when interacting with a player.

Well, let me recenter myself.

[Bell]

I don't see what you could possibly like from his recent posts.

[Bell]

Oh holy shit he doesn't have LLD as a town read.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Oh holy shit he doesn't have LLD as a town read.

That's true.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

I am going to sleep now and this is my last post tonight. See you tomorrow.

[UNOwen]

Reading enough of the Noraa wagon to see her reaction and conclude it is scummy but not developing a corresponding LLD town read (or at least lean) does not sound terribly likely.

[Bell]

Reading enough of the Noraa wagon to see her reaction and conclude it is scummy but not developing a corresponding LLD town read (or at least lean) does not sound terribly likely.

*thumbs up*

[Hoctac]

Over

[Hoctac]

the

[Hoctac]

microwave