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Post Post #1600 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:55 am

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In post 1597, Andresvmb wrote:And how does it not sway my vote exactly? If I have two players I know are Town, that’s a reasonable core to be voting with.
You know they are town? Huh?
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Post Post #1601 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:56 am

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In post 1600, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1597, Andresvmb wrote:And how does it not sway my vote exactly? If I have two players I know are Town, that’s a reasonable core to be voting with.
You know they are town? Huh?
What’s so complicated about assuming that a Mason claim D1 by two players contains Town like 99% of the time?
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Post Post #1602 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:58 am

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: infinity

Think that is L-3, but anyone after me should count the votes. Also be aware that n_m could try lolhammer
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Post Post #1603 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:59 am

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It wasn’t truthful so it doesn’t matter. But yeah I immediately assumed that if the claim was true, that it was coming from Town.

Also, for the future, reserve using the words “hard claim” for a legitimate one. I am inclined to not believe any claim JV makes the rest of the game.
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Post Post #1604 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 4:59 am

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In post 1601, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1600, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1597, Andresvmb wrote:And how does it not sway my vote exactly? If I have two players I know are Town, that’s a reasonable core to be voting with.
You know they are town? Huh?
What’s so complicated about assuming that a Mason claim D1 by two players contains Town like 99% of the time?
Um, because Jackson put out about 4 fake claims before that. It is clearly a thing they do for laughs. Doesn't feel AI to me.
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Post Post #1605 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 5:05 am

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Current thoughts on taylor, Andres?
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Post Post #1606 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:29 am

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Post Post #1607 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:39 am

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is where I explained it, though it’s kind of a lazy read. I haven’t like VP’s recent posting which feels like trying to set up mislims.
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Post Post #1608 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 6:55 am

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In post 1607, Infinity 324 wrote: is where I explained it, though it’s kind of a lazy read. I haven’t like VP’s recent posting which feels like trying to set up mislims.
Lol I'm shocked at this turn of events.
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Post Post #1609 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:22 am

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In post 1591, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1587, DkKoba wrote:How about mark (((:
I'm not feeling a Mark yeet today. Like, on a personal level, I hate that posting style to some degree, but that's NAI.

I also don't like people attacking Koba based upon their posting style...again, that kind of stuff doesn't show alignment. And yes, I understand people have stated other reasons. But I do think some of the Koba hate is just based upon a playstyle that is hallmarked by a middle finger.

You're completely opposed to infinity, koba? I'm increasingly thinking infinity v. taylor may not be TvT. There is just some weirdness in the talking past each other. Honestly, I find both of their play kind of garbage for different reasons (infinity has no scum reads after 60 pages v. taylor making "tone reads" cases and generally trying to AtE with me), so it makes sense for one of them to go if I can't get people to bite on geraintm (despite everything he posts being non-committal to any clear viewpoint).
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Post Post #1610 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:23 am

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In post 1601, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 1600, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1597, Andresvmb wrote:And how does it not sway my vote exactly? If I have two players I know are Town, that’s a reasonable core to be voting with.
You know they are town? Huh?
What’s so complicated about assuming that a Mason claim D1 by two players contains Town like 99% of the time?
Imagine a triple mason pairing again haha ... just kidding. ... unless?
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Post Post #1611 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:24 am

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like i hate consolidating bc it makes me paranoid as shit LOL
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Post Post #1612 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:46 am

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In post 1605, VP Baltar wrote:Current thoughts on taylor, Andres?
I stated before that they are my strongest TR. This remains the case.
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Post Post #1613 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:49 am

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In post 456, JacksonVirgo wrote:
/reveal as IC
This is how the did their initial reaction test btw. I would argue that this is somewhat different to writing down the words “I am hard claiming Mason with FL”.
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Post Post #1614 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:58 am

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In post 1613, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 456, JacksonVirgo wrote:
/reveal as IC
This is how the did their initial reaction test btw. I would argue that this is somewhat different to writing down the words “I am hard claiming Mason with FL”.
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Post Post #1615 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:48 am

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In post 128, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 127, DkKoba wrote:are you saying you played a game against andre where he was scum?
Nah. I just feel relatively confident I'll be able to figure out whether he is being genuine over time.

It's not so much meta as it is I found his town play to have a certain verve that would be quite challenging to replicate as scum. Possible? Maybe. But I do think it'd be clear if it was inauthentic.
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Post Post #1616 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:52 am

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Also, can you explain your koba read atm?
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Post Post #1617 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:53 am

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In post 1615, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 128, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 127, DkKoba wrote:are you saying you played a game against andre where he was scum?
Nah. I just feel relatively confident I'll be able to figure out whether he is being genuine over time.

It's not so much meta as it is I found his town play to have a certain verve that would be quite challenging to replicate as scum. Possible? Maybe. But I do think it'd be clear if it was inauthentic.
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I find Andres lacking this game frankly. Saying Taylor is your top town read is just confusing.

I'll be real with you infinity. I think you could very well just be disengaged town here. If you flip green, you can believe I'll seek vengeance. We do have to yeet someone though and I don't have the sway I guess to get people onto geraintm because people are afraid you yeet lurkers. It's not my top choice, but I'd rather we do this in an orderly process than scramble at deadline on election week.
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Post Post #1618 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:57 am

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I hate being mislimmed and will do everything I can to stop that from happening.
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Post Post #1619 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:57 am

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In post 1616, Infinity 324 wrote:Also, can you explain your koba read atm?
I still think Koba is town here. Could be wrong, but I think people harping on them about playstyle is creating disengagement. I've never played with scum Koba, but the erratic behavior feels more town to me. Scum tend to try to calm town anxiety rather than just straight flipping a middle finger and fighting a bunch of people at the same time
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Post Post #1620 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:58 am

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In post 1618, Infinity 324 wrote:I hate being mislimmed and will do everything I can to stop that from happening.
I'm the same.

The hard thing for me is that you just don't seem committed to limming anyone.
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Post Post #1621 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 8:59 am

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The thing I said about VP just SR'ing me now also applies to koba btw. If they thought I was scummy, they would've pushed on me way earlier. Nothing much has changed in my play, expect maybe losing a bit of engagement. I find it likely one or both are scum. I also think this gamestate makes a lot of sense with scum being really active, for reasons I'm having difficulty explaining.
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Post Post #1622 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:00 am

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VOTE: koba
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Post Post #1623 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:02 am

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Check out and the engagement afterwards. VP clearly is aware of the fact that I don't have scumreads, but drops the whole thing until someone else brings it up much later.
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Post Post #1624 (ISO) » Mon Nov 02, 2020 9:05 am

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