In post 4649, Noraa wrote:In post 4635, Flea The Magician wrote:I present you with: some of my reads. composed while I'm space braining on my new meds
Taylor - TL, randomly defensive, seems to be sticking to guns. Smart enough to not create those specific associative tells imo.
Noraa - SL, can't forgive the over-defensiveness earlier and response to drilled, have considered play since and downgraded.
UNOwen - scum. Previous post details this somewhere.
Mush - Town - seems proactive
Lady - Town - want to see more from her, and hope she's well soon <3
Shelly - TL, slot doesn't sit well with me on interactions still but the response to the hurt seemed genuine to me.
MC - Not sure, overconfident in reads.
Pooky - SL, slot isn't sitting well with me, seems to be mostly shitposting and taunting.
Lapsa - SL, What the smeg even is this slot.
Theta - Null Seems rather middle of the road to me.
Fred - scum. Zden was lean, freds entrance was... well I had to triple check when they came in because it's like they were always here, and its 3 straight in at taylor.
Bell - TL. Reads well to me. Should probably go look at the points made against them at some point.
Fidget - Honestly, haven't been paying attention.
Gloria - See above.
Adorable - Forgot about them
peditPooky seems quite playful to me.Noraa wrote:I think pooky's town. I feel like pooky has a kind of playful vibe when they are scum.+1Very interesting that there is exactly, I repeat EXACTLY five SRs. This may be a bad way to judge but generally I find that only careful scum will have exactly the number of scum SRs.
I'm not stupid and I've been quite present in the thread. I know very well that pooky is kinda playful here. It's different tho and if you would care to meta dive, you would understand why. Plus if you read my entire paragraph and not just the first sentence, it shows u why exactly but no, Flea is just gonna come charging after me after reading one sentence of my reassessment read. Great. Lovely.
If we are killing a lurker slot first, Flea is the top candidate imo.
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Are you literally agreeing with me in you last post?In post 4690, Gloria Cleary wrote:Are you and Tayl0r reading the game?- Gloria Cleary
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I don't have a ton to say here but I DO have a couple things.
First, I would like to reiterate that I think meta is garbage and if my meta on Fred is convincing to you and you weren't in the game while it was happening, you should feel bad. I have reasons, plural, quite a quantity actually, in this game, right now, that you can see with your eyeballs, for yourself, live, in real time. Meta is subject to manipulation, even the personality based stuff, even by people who aren't aware of their own meta. The only stable meta worth relying on is the meta happening now, in front of you, live, on camera, since at least you can recognize rapid personality and playstyle changes as possible scumflailing to escape scumreads.
Of course, even if you disagree with me, why you'd fall back on my own personal meta-read of a slot I've admitted to misreading as scum before is incomprehensible to me. Still, more weight on the wagon, sure, let's hit scum, I can berate your reasons afterwards.
Second, I personally try /really hard/ to always have precisely enough scumreads to fill the scum slots, ideally with half as many (rounded up) in null for backup and at least one locktown I'm willing to re-examine on a moment's notice. I find that having more scumreads than the number of scum in the game is usually town indicative but ALWAYS points to garbage reads, and it is self-evident that someone who has fewer scumreads is not going to find as many scum as are actually in the game (consider: even if they have a 100% hit rate, when they run out of scumreads, they are no longer scumreading any scum that remains). So, y'know, that argument is almost as bad as borrowing reads from someone else's meta reads.- Fredrick A Campbell
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If you were offended by the phrase "you aren't this dumb," it is rather strange.In post 4501, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
thats uncalled forIn post 4472, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:
With thanks to Titus for making the ISO accessible without any actual effort involved for me.In post 2463, Titus wrote:VOTE: Toogeloo
Not sure it's right but definitely not sure it's wrong and we need a wagon.
GEE THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE TITUS IS DRIVING THE WAGON EITHER, TAYL0R. HUH. ISN'T THAT ODD.
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Why should I be looking at you?
Why should I be OMGUSing? I simply just don't do that unless I actually have a case on the person and I simply don't have any reason to think you are scum.In post 4546, Bell wrote:This is a dude who has a guilty conscience and so he's not omgusing like all the good townies do.- Gloria Cleary
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I metadived 3 of your towngames, other than whichever one MUSH was referring to and you produced, plenty of content, numerous reads and asked lots of questions but about the gamestate in general and not just focused on a couple of players. You clearly aren’t doing that here.In post 4709, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:Why should I be looking at you?
Why should I be OMGUSing? I simply just don't do that unless I actually have a case on the person and I simply don't have any reason to think you are scum.In post 4546, Bell wrote:This is a dude who has a guilty conscience and so he's not omgusing like all the good townies do.
In those games, your focus was on other - MANY other players and your questions were neither reactions, about yourself or narrowly focusing on one or two people. You’re sniping at Tayl0r reads more lamisty here, because your Tayl0r points actually make sense, you’re just not doing much of anything else.- Fredrick A Campbell
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I actually am reading the game and pointing out the observations I am making along with the conclusions I am reaching from those observations. That is what I am doing.In post 4710, Gloria Cleary wrote:
Insert post 4709 here
I metadived 3 of your towngames, other than whichever one MUSH was referring to and you produced, plenty of content, numerous reads and asked lots of questions but about the gamestate in general and not just focused on a couple of players. You clearly aren’t doing that here.
In those games, your focus was on other - MANY other players and your questions were neither reactions, about yourself or narrowly focusing on one or two people. You’re sniping at Tayl0r reads more lamisty here, because your Tayl0r points actually make sense, you’re just not doing much of anything else.- Fredrick A Campbell
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I would be fine going this route since I am null on Pooky if it weren't for the fact that I actually have another scumread on another player that only Gloria Cleary seems to be taking seriously.In post 4581, MURDERCAT wrote:
Fair enough. I'll be sad if you are town Pooky.In post 4577, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:why would I even care about being townread
the sooner i exit the better this game is depressingly boring. most people aren't even playing
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Why?In post 4584, UNOwen wrote:
It's difficult to imagine someone reading the argument between you and LLD and thinking "hmmm yes I agree Noraa is scum but idk about LLD".In post 4428, Noraa wrote: dumb this sentence down. I do not comprehend.- Bell
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You ‘re having trouble pretending to scum hunt.In post 4709, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:Why should I be looking at you?
Why should I be OMGUSing? I simply just don't do that unless I actually have a case on the person and I simply don't have any reason to think you are scum.In post 4546, Bell wrote:This is a dude who has a guilty conscience and so he's not omgusing like all the good townies do.- Titus
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How did you reach that conclusion?In post 4612, UNOwen wrote:I think Pooky's disillusionment is real, don't want to scroll him.- Fredrick A Campbell
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I don't care for empty assertions. Prove it.In post 4714, Bell wrote:
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What is the point of this post? Are you trying to encourage them to start spamming the thread again?In post 4629, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
well most of your posts are fluff. and you had disappeared for a while. you spammed a ton on day 1 but were quiet todayIn post 4613, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:yea im sure bell and I with our 600 posts each are the people who are non-presences and not the lurkers who haven't broken 100 yet.- shellyc
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i hate freds tone fwiw, a whole bunch of floundering after being tunnelled on bell. I want to jump back on and leash town!fred
4717 sounds scummy imo. "prove it" gives off major caught for the wrong reasons vibes, and instead of having a mindset to prove himself as town, fred is being reactive
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notably scum!pooky sounds more friendly/likeable/etcIn post 4635, Flea The Magician wrote:Pooky - SL, slot isn't sitting well with me, seems to be mostly shitposting and taunting.
where do you think the shitposting is happening? and why is it scummy? policy all spammers is terrible"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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noraa the scumhunting god finding scum by their number of SRs! wowIn post 4649, Noraa wrote:Very interesting that there is exactly, I repeat EXACTLY five SRs. This may be a bad way to judge but generally I find that only careful scum will have exactly the number of scum SRs.
I'm not stupid and I've been quite present in the thread. I know very well that pooky is kinda playful here. It's different tho and if you would care to meta dive, you would understand why. Plus if you read my entire paragraph and not just the first sentence, it shows u why exactly but no, Flea is just gonna come charging after me after reading one sentence of my reassessment read. Great. Lovely.
If we are killing a lurker slot first, Flea is the top candidate imo.
noraa why do you seem to constantly make something and stir up SRs from something that isn't NAI
(I actually told her to do this in my last scumgame with scum!her, can quote from scum pt if needed)"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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yeah the votes are changing but how is that scummy in of itself?In post 4556, MURDERCAT wrote:If I could pass anyone the first scroll right now I'd give it to Pooky. Part of it is that I think Noraa is town, and I am suspicious of people who are SRing the slot still (yes I know that applies to Fred). It feels to me like Pooky has been a little overly defensive in places that stick out too, similar to what I was picking up from LLD. Especially when you see it towards people who Pooky seems to be town reading, it just felt a little off. I think Pooky saying he isn't town reading me is weird, I think town Pooky should be trying to work with me. It doesn't feel like he is really trying to town block at all really. Also, look at his votes.
also, being overdefensive is totally a personality tell"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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I am asking Bell to prove that I am pretending to scum hunt. Asking me to prove myself as town without a case is like asking a suspect to prove their innocence when you have no evidence to convict them.In post 4719, shellyc wrote:i hate freds tone fwiw, a whole bunch of floundering after being tunnelled on bell. I want to jump back on and leash town!fred
4717 sounds scummy imo. "prove it" gives off major caught for the wrong reasons vibes, and instead of having a mindset to prove himself as town, fred is being reactive
VOTE: Fredrick
As for me being reactive, yeah, I am. What is your point?
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mafia isn't a court trialIn post 4723, Fredrick A Campbell wrote:I am asking Bell to prove that I am pretending to scum hunt. Asking me to prove myself as town without a case is like asking a suspect to prove their innocence when you have no evidence to convict them.
As for me being reactive, yeah, I am. What is your point?
Postscript: I am working on a post in response to MUSHSHAGANA'S first argument for me being scum in post 3637.
i'd expect town!you to be much more proactive than here ftr, especially with a first day T->T->T pass"I really dig your cult leadery charismatic vibes" - Hectic
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