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vote count 2.04

Menalque (5)

: lilith2013, Infinity 324, JacksonVirgo, Hoopla, Dunnstral

TheGoldenParadox (3)

: Uncrowned, PenguinPower, skitter30

skitter30 (1)

: Menalque

Hoopla (1)

: TheGoldenParadox

JacksonVirgo (1)

: petapan

Not voting

: davesaz, Something_Smart

Deadline: (expired on 2020-11-13 13:00:00)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

mod notes

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- skitter30 v/la fridays & saturdays
- quack

[Something_Smart]

@SS

are you planning on voting today?

Maybe?

It obviously depends on how the day goes.

[Something_Smart]

Ummmmm why does self-vote imply there's not two on?

That is definitely not what he said

[Something_Smart]

Manlque was fairly obviously blocked, stopping the kill don't out town pr, elim through claim:

VOTE: Menalque

How did you get this...?

[Something_Smart]

don't like how your scumreads are all people likely to be prs sorry that's gross

Why's it gross? Do you think scum are more likely to have scumreads that they might just be unable to execute?

[Something_Smart]

I kinda want clarity from dunn too, but i imagine he's unlikely to provide it

I mean so far all he's done is make the clearly wrong statement that it's "obvious" Menalque was blocked. We don't necessarily need a full explanation, but we do need something other than a blatant falsehood.

[skitter30]

Ummmmm why does self-vote imply there's not two on?

That is definitely not what he said

Fair enough, i didnt read it super carefully, it seems

[lilith2013]

I’m pretty sure Dunn just picked up my attempt to soft, you can stop questioning him. I jailkept mena last night.

[Infinity 324]

I knew it was something

[lilith2013]

I don’t really think mena would have been a priority kill last night given how low he is in the draft, I think it’s more likely that he was chosen to make the scum kill since they don’t have multitasking and he’s unlikely to have a PR (which is why I figured it was safe to JK him).

[skitter30]

I’m pretty sure Dunn just picked up my attempt to soft, you can stop questioning him. I jailkept mena last night.

i was wondering if that was the case which is why i didn't want to push it *too* hard
ok so the question is now if he was nk'd or if he did the nk

i have some ~thoughts~ and in many universes i suspect scum!mena tries to nk me tbh

[skitter30]

also why i didn't question your vote much more than like 'good vote'
idk what scumteam tries to nk him here tbh

[skitter30]

VOTE: mena

[davesaz]

I agree. I also don't see any way it's a fakeclaim from Lilith.

[davesaz]

Pretty sure that's elim-1.

[skitter30]

oh whoops it is, i was thinking 8 to lim

i can unvote for now if we don't want him right on the edge cuz we want more time to talk tho
UNVOTE:
i'm on him in spirit tho ^

[davesaz]

I think it's the right lim and I'm there in spirit too, just wanted to make sure we talk through anything else important first.

[skitter30]

exactly

[Dunnstral]

[Hoopla]

just checking in to endorse this current direction.

there's a chance a doc/RB did some magic behind the scenes, but if the JK is the one who stopped the kill, it seems much more likely that menalque was the killer rather than the kill-ee, mostly because i think scum are more likely to shoot for town PR's higher in the draft, rather than down that low.

[Uncrowned]

Do we think it's more likely that scum got blocked or that doctor saved someone?

If Mena is scum I feel like that could be rather telling on who makes up the scumteam if they decided he was the safest option to make the NK.

[skitter30]

i think if mena is scum the rest of the scumteam was worried about the tracker being in play and wanted to try to avoid it
he wasn't under *that* much heat at eod yesterday

[Hoopla]

Do we think it's more likely that scum got blocked or that doctor saved someone?

If Mena is scum I feel like that could be rather telling on who makes up the scumteam if they decided he was the safest option to make the NK.

if mena is scum, it probably means he's lowest scum in the draft (or if there's lower scum, they somehow jagged a PR, making mena the best killer choice. but imo two higher up buddies seems likelier).

as for what stopped the kill. it's probably 50/50 betweeen the JK or doc/RB. if there's a doc, i think it should stay hidden, so if the 50/50 is right, it can protect lilith. if its not right, we have a confirmed doc inno elsewhere that can be claimed tomorrow (or at the docs discretion).

if there's no doc and a rb instead, i think it should probably claim now. but it seems unlikely town actually picks rb over doc.

[Something_Smart]

i think if mena is scum the rest of the scumteam was worried about the tracker being in play and wanted to try to avoid it

This would be consistent with the scumteam having gone for that slot and failed to get it. JK is a pretty popular choice for scum.

[Something_Smart]

it's probably 50/50 betweeen the JK or doc/RB.

In a vacuum, wouldn't it be 67% JK, 33% doc/RB? Or more precisely, 33% Menalque was targeted, 33% Menalque attempted to kill, 33% doc/RB stopped the kill.