In post 2062, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Most of our games together come from the time where I had ample ability to play mafia. That is absolutely not the situation these days. I have work and other obligations, and I also try to vary my recreational activities. As such my ability to handle fast games is limited at times. Generally I have the ability to float along in most games, and can select a specific one to focus on at a time, which you saw me mention in Haunted Village. In order to do that, though, I actually need the ability to carve out time to do it, which for like the last week I either haven’t had or have wanted to use to do something else regarding my recreation.
As such I have not been able to escape this state of needing to catch up, so I’m trying to just float along and interact with people based on limited opinions and knowledge.
1842 seems to present this vibe of “if you’re not caught up, don’t try to do anything until you are”. Well, I can’t really resolve that for a while, so what, do you want me to replace out, do nothing, or what?
It's unfortunate you can't really get caught up yet, I didn't know that. I have often seen scum try to give opinions on the gamestate without being caught up as a way to appear like they're doing things without being quite as accountable, whereas town usually focuses on getting caught up first so they can have the most accurate reads. I don't think that's the case anymore here, I think the frustration was genuine. But it was something that pinged me a bit.
I’ve already asserted this, but my vote was not opportunistic, I just voted someone who I wanted to vote but wasn’t voting yet because of a condition I had wanted to resolve but was realizing I wasn’t going to be able to in time to help. And it’s a bit weird to call it opportunistic when the VC shows me as the first vote, no?
Idk, it just feels like gerain is such an easy scumread to have, maybe I'm biased because I have much different vibes from what posts he's had but it seemed very convenient. You certainly weren't the first vote on gerain, the VC isn't in order I guess.
In addition I fail to see how I was overly defensive in
1823. Tay said I was dodging tough questions by saying I wasn’t caught up, so I put her on the spot to name an example. I followed it up by saying my self-analysis of my meta has never turned up an instance where I’d done the thing she seemed to be accusing me of. I think it’s a stretch to even call that defensive, so the additional “overly” makes me suspect you are acting in bad faith by trying to paint it as something it really isn’t.
It was something about the way it was worded, especially the part in parentheses. Maybe I didn't word it the best way, but it was certainly a post that pinged me.
As for how this scenario relates back to that newbie, you saw how I struggled to deal with Zyf’s pressure there. So you know I have trouble with dealing with a player intent on picking apart every single thing that I do. I saw the seeds of that kind of push in that post where you referenced specific posts as things you thought were scummy of me. I also was not having a good time trying to keep up with the activity level of the game, which while it doesn’t have anything to do with that newbie game, I think you were cognizant of it and felt like you could pressure me and possibly hit me while my guard was down, it’s just your timing was a little off probably, or you expect more people to take your bait.
This is the part where I feel like you're really stretching. I don't even remember too much about the newbie game, it was a long time ago. My push looks a lot different than zyf's did in that game iirc. I understand that scum!me could be taking advantage of you not being caught up, but how is that any different than the people pushing gerain for not participating a ton in d1 just like every game?
Another problem with your attempt to push me is the fact you called for a flash wagon. Earlier you had me and geraint in seemingly different positions to what you seem to have is at now. What caused that shift, because I don’t think anything in what I or geraint has done is enough to completely swap where we are in your reads. Seems more like you started to get cold feet on a distancing attempt. I also feel like the things you pushed me for are a bit weak sauce even if you genuinely believe them as valid points, at least to call for a flash wagon. Seems you’re concerned that you and geraint are both pinned by wagons and are trying to wrestle your way out.
What I was trying to wrestle out of was the fact that I really think all 3 wagons are on town today. There wasn't a ton of time left in the deadline, so it really needed to be a flash wagon. I did think you made a scummy sequence of posts, and when I talked to taylor about your predecessor we found some things that were pretty scummy, which certainly changed my opinion on that slot. Everyone being willing to compromise on gerain, and his recent posts being pretty towny, changed my mind a bit on that slot, and I never thought it was a great elim to begin with. If I'm scum with gerain, I could push koba or something. I get that you were frustrated about my push, but I really wanted to lim scum and I don't think that's possible today anymore. I could start caring less about this game, but that just leads to people scumreading me more and I really hate being mislimmed. I did what I thought I had to.
