Death Curse

[shellyc]

gloria's recent posting i like - the way gloria goes about poking around is really investigative and solvey

also many of their reads (like flea/taylor) similar to my own which is +town

[shellyc]

why would scumLLD do anything if town is currently self destructing lol.

do you think town is self destructing?

pooky where you at? can you give me a rough solve or something?

[Flea The Magician]

Curious on your read on me Gloria

I didn’t like your readslist nor do I understand your thought process in making it. I also find it odd that a lurker suddenly comes out with one and then pretty much goes back to lurking. It kind of reads like coasting with a lamisty readslist to not look like your actually doing that. Why do you even bother to make one and include players you have no read on? It’s interesting that you’re finally reading my posts. Is my read on you the only thing that you can think of to comment on?

I should requote it but it just looked like there wasn’t much thought process put into that list.

I was asked to provide, and so I provided.

There's one or two things I could comment on, but they're redundant right now as we wait for the scroll to do its thing.

[shellyc]

Taylor - TL, randomly defensive, seems to be sticking to guns. Smart enough to not create those specific associative tells imo.
Noraa - SL, can't forgive the over-defensiveness earlier and response to drilled, have considered play since and downgraded.

what do you think about noraa's later play that "downgrades" her? imo noraa's later play is much better than early flailing!noraa

UNOwen - scum. Previous post details this somewhere.
Mush - Town - seems proactive
Lady - Town - want to see more from her, and hope she's well soon <3
Shelly - TL, slot doesn't sit well with me on interactions still but the response to the hurt seemed genuine to me.
MC - Not sure, overconfident in reads.

Do you think overconfidence is completely NAI?

Pooky - SL, slot isn't sitting well with me, seems to be mostly shitposting and taunting.

Consider meta evidence that scum!pooky = less taunty and more lighthearted

Lapsa - SL, What the smeg even is this slot.
Theta - Null Seems rather middle of the road to me.

Middle of the road is how, imo, scum would ideally play here, as all elim'd town are vengeful

Fred - scum. Zden was lean, freds entrance was... well I had to triple check when they came in because it's like they were always here, and its 3 straight in at taylor.
Bell - TL. Reads well to me. Should probably go look at the points made against them at some point.
Fidget - Honestly, haven't been paying attention.
Gloria - See above.
Adorable - Forgot about them

Can you develop a little bit more on these last 4 reads? skim the isos, no matter how weak a read is, it's best to get it out there

[shellyc]

bold was mine. i'd like you to answer these questions. if you fail, prepare to embrace the Shellyc Death Tunnel.

[MURDERCAT]

why would townLLD not care that the boat is sinking

This

[MURDERCAT]

Here's the thing about shooting LLD first, it's kind of a safe shot because

1. She isn't leading town or finding scum right now
2. We are hitting max 1 scum today
3. I trust town LLD to hit scum
4. If we hit some other scum we probably lose mush or me instead who are at least still posting in the game

Remember isis claimed scum to try to shoot LLD

[MURDERCAT]

I was just mindgaming in case you were scum btw Fred, but if I did have a secret scum read it would be adorable so I'm okay with that too FWIW

[Flea The Magician]

Answering the nora one now because it might provoke a reaction

Nora's play post drill has been better, but her earlier shenanigans were unforgivable. That's why she's SL not outright scum. More recent reasoning is she seems to be wanting to pick a fight with me, starting interactions but then never finishing them.

Votes me here - wants information, unvotes me here - can't get information. wut. what was I supposed to do there? "Oh noes, there is a vote upon my person! oh woe is me whatever shall I do?" Don't get me wrong I love being dramatic, but that wasn't the time nor place.

Then overreacts to a comment I made, saying I'm charging at her [which I still think is amazing] then blanks me after my rebuttal. [Again, amazing ]

I could do with a good hug... or turning into a vampire... whichever embrace it is, I look forward to it

[Gloria Cleary]

Okay, I really like this post, I thought you were defending Tayl0r’s strange push on you which didn’t sit right with me but I think now, I probably just misread you.

what exactly do you think is good/town!AI about that post you quoted? since imo its just quite a regular reads explanation wall

I keep going back and forth on her. I thought she was defending Tayl0r shading her but then she had her low on her list. I do think it’s possible they could be buddies, because Tayl0r wanted her to be in the third slot, so if Tayl0r flips scum, it would make me more suspicious of Fidget.

[Gloria Cleary]

Taylor - TL, randomly defensive, seems to be sticking to guns. Smart enough to not create those specific associative tells imo.
Noraa - SL, can't forgive the over-defensiveness earlier and response to drilled, have considered play since and downgraded.

what do you think about noraa's later play that "downgrades" her? imo noraa's later play is much better than early flailing!noraa

UNOwen - scum. Previous post details this somewhere.
Mush - Town - seems proactive
Lady - Town - want to see more from her, and hope she's well soon <3
Shelly - TL, slot doesn't sit well with me on interactions still but the response to the hurt seemed genuine to me.
MC - Not sure, overconfident in reads.

Do you think overconfidence is completely NAI?

Pooky - SL, slot isn't sitting well with me, seems to be mostly shitposting and taunting.

Consider meta evidence that scum!pooky = less taunty and more lighthearted

Lapsa - SL, What the smeg even is this slot.
Theta - Null Seems rather middle of the road to me.

Middle of the road is how, imo, scum would ideally play here, as all elim'd town are vengeful

Fred - scum. Zden was lean, freds entrance was... well I had to triple check when they came in because it's like they were always here, and its 3 straight in at taylor.
Bell - TL. Reads well to me. Should probably go look at the points made against them at some point.
Fidget - Honestly, haven't been paying attention.
Gloria - See above.
Adorable - Forgot about them

Can you develop a little bit more on these last 4 reads? skim the isos, no matter how weak a read is, it's best to get it out there

+1

[UNOwen]

Not an easy mode free win then.
Shelly thinks I am obvscum but will not try very hard to get me killed because she knows as soon as the scroll is in my hands it will be heading in her direction.

I'm not sure about shooting Adorable. I think the general OMGUS focus shows a fairly consistent perspective but from what she says Adorable has a meta of doing this which might mean she is playing it up here. Will be interesting to see how she responds to the HURT at least.

[Gloria Cleary]

Not an easy mode free win then.
Shelly thinks I am obvscum but will not try very hard to get me killed because she knows as soon as the scroll is in my hands it will be heading in her direction.

I'm not sure about shooting Adorable. I think the general OMGUS focus shows a fairly consistent perspective but from what she says Adorable has a meta of doing this which might mean she is playing it up here. Will be interesting to see how she responds to the HURT at least.

@Adorable, what other reads do you have besides Noraa? If you’ve already done this, then please link those posts.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Now I am convinced Adorable is scum.

HURT: Adorable

fred why are you listening to the person that HAMMERED YOU?

do you TR fidget, if so, why?

Why wouldn't I?

No, I am not townreading Fidget.

[Gloria Cleary]

Now I am convinced Adorable is scum.

HURT: Adorable

fred why are you listening to the person that HAMMERED YOU?

do you TR fidget, if so, why?

Why wouldn't I?

No, I am not townreading Fidget.

Oh? What changed?

[UNOwen]

3. I trust town LLD to hit scum

Why?
The rest of your argument only works if we presume LLD isn't going to start playing again at some point, which I'm still expecting.

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Now I am convinced Adorable is scum.

HURT: Adorable

fred why are you listening to the person that HAMMERED YOU?

do you TR fidget, if so, why?

Why wouldn't I?

No, I am not townreading Fidget.

Oh? What changed?

I was never townreading Fidget to begin with, so, nothing has changed in that aspect.

[Gloria Cleary]

I am a bit concerned about Fidget’s focus on Adorable. Why isn’t she more suspicious of Tayl0r? I definitely would be in her position.

@Fidget? Why are you more suspicious of Adorable than the person misrepping you and calling you “scum”?

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Insert post 4894 by Fredrick A Campbel

I agree they did a great job at distancing but their interactions don’t resemble Pooky/Tayl0r or LLD/Noraa in THIS game.

I am actually not sure how they are different. Are you referring to the stakes? If you are, I agree with that and am taking this into consideration. If you aren't, I am hoping for clarification of what makes them different.

[Gloria Cleary]

Now I am convinced Adorable is scum.

HURT: Adorable

fred why are you listening to the person that HAMMERED YOU?

do you TR fidget, if so, why?

Why wouldn't I?

No, I am not townreading Fidget.

Oh? What changed?

I was never townreading Fidget to begin with, so, nothing has changed in that aspect.

Those who are scumreading Fidget, please tell me why. I am not scumreading them.

[UNOwen]

@Flea - If you are in a talkative mood, you could respond to 4253?

[MURDERCAT]

3. I trust town LLD to hit scum

Why?
The rest of your argument only works if we presume LLD isn't going to start playing again at some point, which I'm still expecting.

LLD is a strong town player who would then, I think, be very motivated

[Gloria Cleary]

You know, with 17 players left in this game, I really would appreciate it if everyone only post if they have something meaningful to say. Below is an example of completely inessential conversation that could have been done using the site chat. Please use the site chat for conversations like this. You won't get banned. It's not game related.

Fredrick: complains about no game advancing content
Fredrick again: Doesn't give game advancing content at all

lol
fred order these names from town->scum NOW
fidget
taylor
theta
bell
gloria

I don't really care if you mind this or not, but I have another readlist that reflects what I am thinking better than your random set of five that you just chose.

Town to scum:
MUSHSHAGANA, Gloria Cleary, Fidget, all players not on this list (null), Tayl0r Swift, Noraa

[Fredrick A Campbell]

Now I am convinced Adorable is scum.

HURT: Adorable

fred why are you listening to the person that HAMMERED YOU?

do you TR fidget, if so, why?

Why wouldn't I?

No, I am not townreading Fidget.

Oh? What changed?

I was never townreading Fidget to begin with, so, nothing has changed in that aspect.

Those who are scumreading Fidget, please tell me why. I am not scumreading them.

That doesn't mean I was townreading them.

[Gloria Cleary]

Now I am convinced Adorable is scum.

HURT: Adorable

fred why are you listening to the person that HAMMERED YOU?

do you TR fidget, if so, why?

Why wouldn't I?

No, I am not townreading Fidget.

Oh? What changed?

I was never townreading Fidget to begin with, so, nothing has changed in that aspect.

Those who are scumreading Fidget, please tell me why. I am not scumreading them.

@Fred, please explain this as well as 4395.

If Fred flips scum then Bell and Adorable are spewed town.