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Post Post #8250 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:24 am

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In post 8243, MathBlade wrote:
In post 8241, Titus wrote:Tbh, you would have been better off taking Bell's approach and not fakeclaiming here but just stubbornly not suiciding. It would have been better to paint suiciding as which mouse puts the bell on the cat scenario (no pun intended). There was no fake claim that really worked.

If you stuck with town, you couldn't be anti suicide (see above for your best move).

If you claimed 3p, there were a litany of posts to grill you with. I was just starting to when you cracked and conceded.
Yeah.

Knowing what I know now that was best.

I literally didn’t know anything about the setup though.

So I made a gamble to stop you from hooding Chemist and it failed.

It was also when I thought A50’s hood was siding with us. If he wasn’t it wouldn’t really matter as I lacked enough Charisma bank to win against Bell.

I really needed Bell to be in the hood and not Suicide.

The fact he fake claimed traitor when it wasn’t possible fucked me.
Bell didn't claim traitor.
I mentioned like 100 times, it was modconfirmed 5 scum.

To your credit though, I was the one who wanted to hood Chemist to have him fail. Nero wanted shelly to die.
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Post Post #8251 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:24 am

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In post 518, schadd_ wrote:
In post 514, MathBlade wrote:
In post 513, schadd_ wrote:sorry your wincon should say "parity among town-aligned players"
Uhm a little late to say that bud. Been playing this whole time as if Titus etc didn’t have to be killed.

Well fuck.

We just went from almost win to screwed.
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Glad you’re happy I was scum Nero.

So Mastina flipping Green made me think she was town and A50 was hood siding with us.
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Post Post #8252 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:25 am

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No one wanted to hood you or Bell because you were already known not to suicide.
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Post Post #8253 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:25 am

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In post 8250, Titus wrote:
In post 8243, MathBlade wrote:
In post 8241, Titus wrote:Tbh, you would have been better off taking Bell's approach and not fakeclaiming here but just stubbornly not suiciding. It would have been better to paint suiciding as which mouse puts the bell on the cat scenario (no pun intended). There was no fake claim that really worked.

If you stuck with town, you couldn't be anti suicide (see above for your best move).

If you claimed 3p, there were a litany of posts to grill you with. I was just starting to when you cracked and conceded.
Yeah.

Knowing what I know now that was best.

I literally didn’t know anything about the setup though.

So I made a gamble to stop you from hooding Chemist and it failed.

It was also when I thought A50’s hood was siding with us. If he wasn’t it wouldn’t really matter as I lacked enough Charisma bank to win against Bell.

I really needed Bell to be in the hood and not Suicide.

The fact he fake claimed traitor when it wasn’t possible fucked me.
Bell didn't claim traitor.
I mentioned like 100 times, it was modconfirmed 5 scum.

To your credit though, I was the one who wanted to hood Chemist to have him fail. Nero wanted shelly to die.
You claimed 5 army. Not 5 scum. And bell did 100% claim traitor last day.
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Post Post #8254 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:25 am

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In post 8251, MathBlade wrote:
In post 518, schadd_ wrote:
In post 514, MathBlade wrote:
In post 513, schadd_ wrote:sorry your wincon should say "parity among town-aligned players"
Uhm a little late to say that bud. Been playing this whole time as if Titus etc didn’t have to be killed.

Well fuck.

We just went from almost win to screwed.
sorry. this was the way the game was balanced at the outset and certain other players have the understanding that is how it would proceed. to clarify things for you, though, i will let you know that there are two other segments of non-town, one of which does not count toward your wincondition and one that does
Glad you’re happy I was scum Nero.

So Mastina flipping Green made me think she was town and A50 was hood siding with us.

So our claimed wincons had nothing to do with this choice?
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Post Post #8255 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:26 am

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In post 8253, MathBlade wrote:
In post 8250, Titus wrote:
In post 8243, MathBlade wrote:
In post 8241, Titus wrote:Tbh, you would have been better off taking Bell's approach and not fakeclaiming here but just stubbornly not suiciding. It would have been better to paint suiciding as which mouse puts the bell on the cat scenario (no pun intended). There was no fake claim that really worked.

If you stuck with town, you couldn't be anti suicide (see above for your best move).

If you claimed 3p, there were a litany of posts to grill you with. I was just starting to when you cracked and conceded.
Yeah.

Knowing what I know now that was best.

I literally didn’t know anything about the setup though.

So I made a gamble to stop you from hooding Chemist and it failed.

It was also when I thought A50’s hood was siding with us. If he wasn’t it wouldn’t really matter as I lacked enough Charisma bank to win against Bell.

I really needed Bell to be in the hood and not Suicide.

The fact he fake claimed traitor when it wasn’t possible fucked me.
Bell didn't claim traitor.
I mentioned like 100 times, it was modconfirmed 5 scum.

To your credit though, I was the one who wanted to hood Chemist to have him fail. Nero wanted shelly to die.
You claimed 5 army. Not 5 scum. And bell did 100% claim traitor last day.
We claimed no other scum could exist. That's why A50 crew was conftown to us.
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Post Post #8256 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:27 am

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Lol the Titus contracting thing was fun RNG but realistically unusable.
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Post Post #8257 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:27 am

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In post 8254, Titus wrote:
In post 8251, MathBlade wrote:
In post 518, schadd_ wrote:
In post 514, MathBlade wrote:
In post 513, schadd_ wrote:sorry your wincon should say "parity among town-aligned players"
Uhm a little late to say that bud. Been playing this whole time as if Titus etc didn’t have to be killed.

Well fuck.

We just went from almost win to screwed.
sorry. this was the way the game was balanced at the outset and certain other players have the understanding that is how it would proceed. to clarify things for you, though, i will let you know that there are two other segments of non-town, one of which does not count toward your wincondition and one that does
Glad you’re happy I was scum Nero.

So Mastina flipping Green made me think she was town and A50 was hood siding with us.

So our claimed wincons had nothing to do with this choice?
Town+ typically can be gated by points or events.

A50 did not claim any additional win cons and the fact they claimed grey flip made me think neut combined with your green flip.
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Post Post #8258 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:28 am

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In post 8255, Titus wrote:
In post 8253, MathBlade wrote:
In post 8250, Titus wrote:
In post 8243, MathBlade wrote:
In post 8241, Titus wrote:Tbh, you would have been better off taking Bell's approach and not fakeclaiming here but just stubbornly not suiciding. It would have been better to paint suiciding as which mouse puts the bell on the cat scenario (no pun intended). There was no fake claim that really worked.

If you stuck with town, you couldn't be anti suicide (see above for your best move).

If you claimed 3p, there were a litany of posts to grill you with. I was just starting to when you cracked and conceded.
Yeah.

Knowing what I know now that was best.

I literally didn’t know anything about the setup though.

So I made a gamble to stop you from hooding Chemist and it failed.

It was also when I thought A50’s hood was siding with us. If he wasn’t it wouldn’t really matter as I lacked enough Charisma bank to win against Bell.

I really needed Bell to be in the hood and not Suicide.

The fact he fake claimed traitor when it wasn’t possible fucked me.
Bell didn't claim traitor.
I mentioned like 100 times, it was modconfirmed 5 scum.

To your credit though, I was the one who wanted to hood Chemist to have him fail. Nero wanted shelly to die.
You claimed 5 army. Not 5 scum. And bell did 100% claim traitor last day.
We claimed no other scum could exist. That's why A50 crew was conftown to us.
Yes you did.

But neut isn’t scum. You’re a hyper literal player Titus and so is Mastina.
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Post Post #8259 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:28 am

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And you can lie.
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Post Post #8260 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:29 am

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I wanted Shelly to blow up b/c I was under the mistaken reasoning we needed the point for someone to sacrifice. I think b/c I was worried most of the game that we might miss the 2 points from all scum elims/only 2 max town elims and I guess I had been saying that so much that I came to believe it even when we didn't.
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Post Post #8261 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:30 am

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GG Math. I'm off to DnD now. It was close.

So basically, don't trust Titus lol.

We can talk more later if you want but this game was close than it seemed.
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Post Post #8262 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:31 am

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also @ first a50 was pushing a shelly/tpg team and I had wanted a dead shelly do he could move on.
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Post Post #8263 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:31 am

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In post 8260, Nero Cain wrote:I wanted Shelly to blow up b/c I was under the mistaken reasoning we needed the point for someone to sacrifice. I think b/c I was worried most of the game that we might miss the 2 points from all scum elims/only 2 max town elims and I guess I had been saying that so much that I came to believe it even when we didn't.
Lol yeah. I had to remind you of that.

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Post Post #8264 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:32 am

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In post 8261, Titus wrote:GG Math. I'm off to DnD now. It was close.

So basically, don't trust Titus lol.

We can talk more later if you want but this game was close than it seemed.
In post 8260, Nero Cain wrote:I wanted Shelly to blow up b/c I was under the mistaken reasoning we needed the point for someone to sacrifice. I think b/c I was worried most of the game that we might miss the 2 points from all scum elims/only 2 max town elims and I guess I had been saying that so much that I came to believe it even when we didn't.
I wish you had.

But yeah this was close.

I kinda wanna move on from this game because I kinda feel it was bastard. But maybe that’s just because of what I saw.
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Post Post #8265 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:34 am

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i just want to read the scum thread and the intern thread but we gotta w8 :/
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Post Post #8266 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:52 am

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Game was balanced imo.
If you two has just convinced us to eliminate Shelly and then TGP it would have been a loss.
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Post Post #8267 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:03 am

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Yeah I don't think the game was very unbalanced actually, we needed the help as town. Imagine if we hadn't hit scum D1
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Post Post #8268 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:04 am

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i don't think the game was townsided per se but it felt very anti-scum
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Post Post #8269 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 6:04 am

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Imho no.
Scum by premise are the informed minority.

Titus Mastina and Nero’s hood were the informed minority.
I get scum won’t have all the information but literally telling 3P the entire setup is bad.
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Post Post #8270 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 7:50 am

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In post 8267, superbowl9 wrote:Yeah I don't think the game was very unbalanced actually, we needed the help as town. Imagine if we hadn't hit scum D1
there were also 3 prs that instantly got doinked. i'm very confident it was townsided even with interns not counting for parity
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Post Post #8271 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:40 am

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for the record i did like the public cop mechanic. it was a fun gimmick, but scum just needed a couple extra members to counter the inevitable deaths that came from it. most of the mechanics individually were fun, but there were just too many of them that helped town and not enough that helped scum.
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Post Post #8272 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:46 am

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Why was i confirmed town? Who did it?
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Post Post #8273 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:52 am

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Likely the mod.

We were told D1 there would be a list of names (not who would we on it), and we could repeat freely from said list.

Not sure why or how it was just one name.
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Post Post #8274 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 10:58 am

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Did mod randomly pick someone to be confirmed town?
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