Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

midwaybear · Post Post #5175 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:14 pm

I don't need to make effort because my plan gives me a clear path to victory. Do you see any flaws in it?

Alisae · Post Post #5176 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:16 pm

In post 5170, midwaybear wrote:I mean scum not killing tammy would be very interesting
I am not sure who scum would be between you or peta. I think Bell saying "scummy lover" is somewhat significant
scum might not necessarily need to 1v1
I really don't get your questions

If you can't describe how exactly an individual wins the game then you can't sell the story that we'll lose just because pooky is "throwing." You need to describe how lynching Pooky today is throwing and how does that spiral into a loss exactly.

But clearly you haven't thought it through how Pooky is throwing, just hoping that no one questions you on it.

Alisae · Post Post #5177 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:18 pm

In post 5175, midwaybear wrote:I don't need to make effort because my plan gives me a clear path to victory. Do you see any flaws in it?

Yeah Peta is cop peaked and I was saved by a doctor

midwaybear · Post Post #5178 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:20 pm

There's no point for pooky to self vote unless I am 100% elimmed tmrw. Thus, if Pooky does not think I am elimmed 100% he should not be saccing.
Now, if pooky does manage to make sure I am hanged 100%, he probably suicides. Scum kills peta and then hang me and we lose.
The important thing is that anything today that doesn't end in hanging you makes the game more difficult for me. It's just how it is.

midwaybear · Post Post #5179 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:21 pm

In post 5177, Alisae wrote:Yeah Peta is cop peaked and I was saved by a doctor

That doesn't point out any flaws. How does my plan cause us to lose under the assumption that I am town? I'm confident I can win 1v1 against peta scum, and pooky scum should be obvious.

Alisae · Post Post #5180 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:23 pm

From his perspective that seems to be the most logical play and thats what he's doing.
And you're not really doing a good job at convincing him that that's not the most logical play for him to make.

midwaybear · Post Post #5181 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:25 pm

Well I can just convince tammy and peta

Pooky won't listen to anything I say and I have accepted that. He probably is last scum anyways

Alisae · Post Post #5182 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:26 pm

if he's probably the last scum anyways then you should vote him because you win the game if he flips scum and we should want to win the game right now.

Alisae · Post Post #5183 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:26 pm

If you are actually town which I doubt you are, then everything should be okay

midwaybear · Post Post #5184 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:27 pm

Yeah yeah, but I'm not locked into that yet which is why I prefer you today.

Alisae · Post Post #5185 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:28 pm

Its more practical to assume that Pooky decided to fake a doc protect on me for x wild, random reason in the universe to assume that I no killed because I just so happened to know that Pooky was a doc and was going to protect me, which also doesn't really make that much sense if I'm acting on that assumption. If I'm acting on the assumption that I know Pooky is a doctor and that he is going to protect me, then I would shoot Tammy because this is the best chance I'll get at killing her.

Alisae · Post Post #5186 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:29 pm

In post 5184, midwaybear wrote:Yeah yeah, but I'm not locked into that yet which is why I prefer you today.

but you don't seem to think I'm scum and the only person who you seem to think is scum is Pooky

Alisae · Post Post #5187 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:31 pm

Well, good luck convincing Peta to vote me!
I'm not sure why he would want to do that if he's scum anyways.

midwaybear · Post Post #5188 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:32 pm

Don't worry if Pooky is scum, it will be obvious tomorrow and we will win. This is just the safest course for me.
Definitely a crazy game.

midwaybear · Post Post #5189 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:33 pm

I get how this is frustrating for you if you are town though. I don't want to take any risks.

Alisae · Post Post #5190 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:34 pm

how about we vote him together and we win right now

midwaybear · Post Post #5191 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:38 pm

Alisae · Post Post #5192 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:39 pm

come on
if you believe he's scum it should be easy
we'll win the game and everyone will be happy and we won't have to argue about it anymore

Alisae · Post Post #5193 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:39 pm

Come on, you know you want to

Alisae · Post Post #5194 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:40 pm

you especially know you want to so you can kill Peta to frame me as scum for pressuring you into making a play you didn't want to make
come on, you know you want to, the bait is just too juicy 4 u

midwaybear · Post Post #5195 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:41 pm

Yes, but if he flips town, I am stuck in lylo with two players one of who has played a great scumgame already on the back foot. Pooky, if scum, should be so so obvious tomorrow. Am I being unreasonable?
pedit: wow

Alisae · Post Post #5196 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:44 pm

Yes you are being unreasonable by not voting who you think is scum because you care about self-preservation more then actually just being right.
if you really believe that Pooky is scum and it goes wrong then you have that going for you if you really are town because if you really are town it will be self-evident.

midwaybear · Post Post #5197 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:47 pm

VOTE: Pooky
fine...

midwaybear · Post Post #5198 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:48 pm

I will probably insta vote you in LYLO if this goes wrong.

Alisae · Post Post #5199 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 5:48 pm

VOTE: Pooky