Death Curse

[MURDERCAT]

I think Zdenek's effort to find a strategy is rather townie with the proactivity

Lol this looks so bad to me but I might be conf biased

[MURDERCAT]

did I really just have someone try and fucking omega brain kill me when I am playing the best and most obvious town game of my life

because I'm ignoring them and I have no real opinion on their game and have other things to take care of

and I didn't even know they wanted to kill me?

exactly

this game is on the verge of being solved
noraa is scum
isis bell contains scum

There's so much stuff like this in Shelly's early game that reads to me like she knows the setup and is pushing town to shoot townies.

[Noraa]

noraa why are you so sure shelly is scum?

Her vibe's been p scummy this round. I've been her scum buddy twice before and have been fooled by scum!her once and I believe that I can now correctly read her. This entire game there's been this little voice in the back of my head telling me that shelly is scum. It's been weak and it's wavered a few. Still, I think Shelly is scum.

Plus, she is currently a very high info flip. If she flips green, we lim on wagon and prolly find scum there. If she flips red, we look for scum theatre.

[MURDERCAT]

My top three scum reads are Noraa, Owen and Bell.

I feel like this is noteworthy

[Noraa]

did I really just have someone try and fucking omega brain kill me when I am playing the best and most obvious town game of my life

because I'm ignoring them and I have no real opinion on their game and have other things to take care of

and I didn't even know they wanted to kill me?

exactly

this game is on the verge of being solved
noraa is scum
isis bell contains scum

There's so much stuff like this in Shelly's early game that reads to me like she knows the setup and is pushing town to shoot townies.

Isis Bell is proven to be 50% town and is most likely 100% town considering Bell is prolly town. I am also town so I would agree with this and say this is TMI in one of its weaker forms.

[Gloria Cleary]

isnt it better to give shelly extra time to work out who she wants to scroll in case she is town?

If she’s scum, she’s taking out two townies thanks to Mush helping her out, so I actually do hope she is and she actually does take out scum.

[MURDERCAT]

"I should be TRing Bell"
"proceeds to SR Bell"

inconsistency = bad

Here we learn that shelly thinks that should is is, but I guess that depends on what your definition of is is.

This reads like a Shelly SvS interaction to me

[MURDERCAT]

Hey Fredrick. Ready to be my immediate scumread again?

I'm joking: you seem engaged this go around, we should be able to get along unless your role PM was red. Shame that you replaced into the Zdenek slot. Please read your predecessor's teeny, tiny ISO so you can understand why I say you have an uphill battle.

eh talk to me about how "engaged" fred is

I don't think that entrance pings either way

Sketch

[MURDERCAT]

Yeah I was town

Still reads fake to me considering Shelly has thought about the setup deeply enough to know that scum would dayvig to win

[MURDERCAT]

fred is scum based off newb 2025 +1 to that I think.

so. yeah. taylor -> pooky -> noraa gets rid of 2 scum.

fred sounds really pedantic and really excusey imo

Bell continues to go upwards in my reads, I'll join you on fred if needed

This reads so weird considering Shelly was SRing Bell all game

[MURDERCAT]

VOTE: Fredrick

i'll vote anywhere in uno/noraa/fred/taylor. maybe fidget especially if she wants to 1v1 with me.

Voting Fred but trying to go anywhere else

[MURDERCAT]

Spoiler:

You know, with 17 players left in this game, I really would appreciate it if everyone only post if they have something meaningful to say. Below is an example of completely inessential conversation that could have been done using the site chat. Please use the site chat for conversations like this. You won't get banned. It's not game related.

Fredrick: complains about no game advancing content
Fredrick again: Doesn't give game advancing content at all

lol
fred order these names from town->scum NOW
fidget
taylor
theta
bell
gloria

VOTE: fidget

Challenge Accepted.

fidget -> shelly -> UNO

What happened to your scumread on me?

So, here we go.

Evidence of Noraa's hemming and hawing on me.

Calling me Null but constantly looking for a way to scumread me that can be deemed as valid, because she's afraid to fabricate a reason and have it be torn down, in my opinion.

But even if you think that assessment of her behaviour is wrong, her behaviour is clear as day.

Here is the evidence.

this stuff is NOT AI for noraa.

I'm not interested in Meta as a defense. It's AI for people, IN GENERAL. She's not special or an exception.

Explain HOW you believe it's not AI. You've been doing this soft Meta defense and not giving anything.

So, will you explain this? It has literally been over a hundred pages, and you're still townreading her.

VOTE: Tayl0r Swift

Throws shade at Shelly but immediately votes elsewhere

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this is some very selective iso reading MC

[MURDERCAT]

still exists but uno is like 80% scum and you're 75% still want you to do my ordering tho

And then this, which is inconsistent with the fidget and taylor reads

[MURDERCAT]

this is some very selective iso reading MC

Yes, I'm aware. I'm accumulating evidence that Shelly is scum. ie if Shelly is scum, these are the things that provide evidence of that

[MURDERCAT]

Spoiler:

/effortpost

PookyTheMagicalBear - how is this slot ever scum? hyperfocusing on taylor a pretty bad strategy as scum because taylor venges hyposcum!pooky any day. also overall giving me a hugely solvey tone, was the catalyst of the noraa wagon
Tayl0r Swift - tswift/fidget prob not s/s but I'm inclined to sheep pooky a bit here, but taylors posting recently has been pretty lackluster. scum taylor hates bussing so maybe there's a scum!taylor WKing scumbuddy world out there
Gloria Cleary - v/la and gave me some gut townvibes earlier
shellyc - obvtown

Theta Alpine

- i think their posting seems really consensus-y and feels like their trying to stay under the radar, in my poe but would probably not be top priority
Bell - I'm pretty torn here, was SR there but has been weakened especially with the flips and the taylor/fred pushing. Would not scroll today probably, I'm confident in sorting there later on

Fredrick A Campbell

- really scummy play throughout, being reactive and pedantic, and not really engaging at all
Titus - i think their earlier posting upon rep-in was pretty proactive so townlean for that, waiting on VCA
MURDERCAT - closest thing to town leader we have aorn. town since gamestart
UNOwen - total scumbucket here with no engagement unlike their towngame which was relatively solvey as the game went on, UNO has really dropped off a cliff, top priority today if i wasn't duelling with fidget.
MUSHSHAGANA - will not vote here and is totally playing to their town!meta
Flea The Magician - null, gamestart posting was in a rather good tone but has been under-the-radar for a long time. will reread.
Adorable - haven't seen them post in ages. adora/noraa isn't s/s

Lady Lambdadelta

- closest thing to conftown when noraa flips red
Noraa - ehhhh? actually, im reconsidering here given some of the recent posting was high effort and i think town!noraa is higher effort than scum!noraa? will reread but will join noraa wagon anytime
Lapsa - lurker will policy anytime
Fidget - in 1v1 with this slot. probscum given the vax!green flip as well.

I think the LLD and Noraa reads look weird next to each other. Other than that I think the reads are generally pretty meh? Like there's a lot of nullish vibes that just seem off to me

[Gloria Cleary]

"I should be TRing Bell"
"proceeds to SR Bell"

inconsistency = bad

Here we learn that shelly thinks that should is is, but I guess that depends on what your definition of is is.

This reads like a Shelly SvS interaction to me

Yeah, it’s possible.

[MURDERCAT]

Not opposed. I’m happy that my reads have been pretty good this game. Only thing with Fidget is that if she flips scum, we could confitown Shelley, since there’s no world ever that those two are linked but yeah Fred is pretty scummy.

gloria when did you start SRing fred? and why are they your backup option instead of fidget being your main?

I feel like Shelly is not playing like town who is SRing Fred throughout D2.

[Gloria Cleary]

Hey Fredrick. Ready to be my immediate scumread again?

I'm joking: you seem engaged this go around, we should be able to get along unless your role PM was red. Shame that you replaced into the Zdenek slot. Please read your predecessor's teeny, tiny ISO so you can understand why I say you have an uphill battle.

eh talk to me about how "engaged" fred is

I don't think that entrance pings either way

Sketch

This one I don’t get, it sounds NAI.

[MURDERCAT]

fred has hit the brakes and its time for a new wagon to stop town apathy and get scum. fred/taylor kinda makes sense as taylor dislikes bussing and has a TR on fred for a random reason

VOTE: Tayl0r Swift

[MURDERCAT]

This one I don’t get, it sounds NAI.

It reads to me like a subtle defense of the slot

[MURDERCAT]

Why would Shelly vote for Taylor alongside the player she was just voting/SRing?

[MURDERCAT]

I think I've seen enough, Shelly's reads are constantly against mine. Consider my vote there

[MURDERCAT]

Shelly can you give a full updated reads list?

[Gloria Cleary]

Spoiler:

/effortpost

PookyTheMagicalBear - how is this slot ever scum? hyperfocusing on taylor a pretty bad strategy as scum because taylor venges hyposcum!pooky any day. also overall giving me a hugely solvey tone, was the catalyst of the noraa wagon
Tayl0r Swift - tswift/fidget prob not s/s but I'm inclined to sheep pooky a bit here, but taylors posting recently has been pretty lackluster. scum taylor hates bussing so maybe there's a scum!taylor WKing scumbuddy world out there
Gloria Cleary - v/la and gave me some gut townvibes earlier
shellyc - obvtown

Theta Alpine

- i think their posting seems really consensus-y and feels like their trying to stay under the radar, in my poe but would probably not be top priority
Bell - I'm pretty torn here, was SR there but has been weakened especially with the flips and the taylor/fred pushing. Would not scroll today probably, I'm confident in sorting there later on

Fredrick A Campbell

- really scummy play throughout, being reactive and pedantic, and not really engaging at all
Titus - i think their earlier posting upon rep-in was pretty proactive so townlean for that, waiting on VCA
MURDERCAT - closest thing to town leader we have aorn. town since gamestart
UNOwen - total scumbucket here with no engagement unlike their towngame which was relatively solvey as the game went on, UNO has really dropped off a cliff, top priority today if i wasn't duelling with fidget.
MUSHSHAGANA - will not vote here and is totally playing to their town!meta
Flea The Magician - null, gamestart posting was in a rather good tone but has been under-the-radar for a long time. will reread.
Adorable - haven't seen them post in ages. adora/noraa isn't s/s

Lady Lambdadelta

- closest thing to conftown when noraa flips red
Noraa - ehhhh? actually, im reconsidering here given some of the recent posting was high effort and i think town!noraa is higher effort than scum!noraa? will reread but will join noraa wagon anytime
Lapsa - lurker will policy anytime
Fidget - in 1v1 with this slot. probscum given the vax!green flip as well.

I think the LLD and Noraa reads look weird next to each other. Other than that I think the reads are generally pretty meh? Like there's a lot of nullish vibes that just seem off to me

Yeah, that is strange. Shouldn’t she be saying LLD!town IF Noraa flips red?