976: mystyry box of sylvyr I: isis game. day 3

[DoubtingThomas]

akarin's just voting whoever the fuck they want, yeah?

[DoubtingThomas]

the mod should update on the sub sitatuion/vc/deadline cuz i dk if it ended or not, tbh

[schadd_]

Spoiler:

vote count 1.7

Dunnstral (3):

mastina, NicCage, TheGoldenParadox

mastina (2):

Dunnstral, Akarin

Gypyx (1):

PlusJOYED

not voting (3):

DoubtingThomas, SKYEscrapers, Gypyx

with 9 alive, it takes 5 to Perform a Dastardly Deed. day 1 ends at some later moment

mod notes

• seeking replacement for plusjoyed; this will incur a deadline extension

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[Gypyx]

alright so, i think we wait for someone to replace plus?

[DoubtingThomas]

gypyx. who you wanna vote?

[DoubtingThomas]

i thought there were some votes on plus

[schadd_]

mathblade replaces PlusJOYED

[MathBlade]

Catching up people

VOTE: Unvote while I do.

[MathBlade]

probably being scum or something

tris

How come I want to eliminate you when you do stuff like this?

[MathBlade]

First!
VOTE: DoubtingThomas
Sheeped me into the game on what was honestly a very weak case.

Town.

sky i missed who are your heads?
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sus for not answering fast enough
VOTE: sky

Town?

Hello, folks. Nice to meet you. How do you do?

Scum?

hello, first time in a hydra!
VOTE: doubtingthomas

Scum.

VOTE: SKYEscrapers.

Scum?

[schadd_]

new day deadline: (expired on 2020-11-11 20:15:00)

[MathBlade]

probably being scum or something

tris

i dont think the two posts that vote me are really scum reading me. do you? why?

"i'm scumreading you"

- tris

Not sure if it's real thought to... scum read me for you voting me before i even posted? How did you expect me to respond?

"Oh! You are voting me before I even posted? Why are you scum reading me?"

Doesn't make sense, right?

VOTE: skye

Newb or scum. Tbd which

[MathBlade]

I'm scumreading you.

—Akarin

VOTE: DoubtingThomas

Akarin can be town.

[MathBlade]

Tris could you write you name smaller please? It's quite annoying to read it like that


Also thomas acknowledges the vote on him as RVS and yet he still acts as if he's being seriously suspected
VOTE: Thomas

If Thomas is town G can be scum.

[MathBlade]

probably being scum or something

tris

i dont think the two posts that vote me are really scum reading me. do you? why?

"i'm scumreading you"

- tris

Not sure if it's real thought to... scum read me for you voting me before i even posted? How did you expect me to respond?

"Oh! You are voting me before I even posted? Why are you scum reading me?"

Doesn't make sense, right?

VOTE: skye

well, is that your response?

tris

like what kind of posts is this?

no it's actually my selfie

????????????

i meant like is the thing in quotes, but nvm it doesn't matter

Also thomas acknowledges the vote on him as RVS and yet he still acts as if he's being seriously suspected
VOTE: Thomas

this is a bad reason to vote for thomas. you'll notice that akarin DOES actually suspect thomas. VOTE: gypyx

i would like to ask thomas what about my behavior is actually scum.

Tris could you write you name smaller please? It's quite annoying to read it like that

mew

Ugh I hate skyscraper’s ISO too.

[MathBlade]

there will either be 7 town and 2 mafia, or 4 town pitted against 5 self-aligned opposing factions, two of which have some mutuality in wincon and will be able to communicate via private thread.

^^
From the OP.

This reads like a 5 self aligned rather than 7 town 2 mafia. Would love to be surprised though.

[MathBlade]

Hey mastina!

Honestly, this post is just to claim the pagetop, but what part of Tris' post is so Alien to you? Why do you think it is scum?

Perhaps you'll be able to rrad me better at least

- Ari

I think I can elaborate better upon reread
this feels like, too eager/anxious to shake an early wagon off when it's nothing and rvs. This could be for multiple reasons, but for now I think it's a minor scumtell at least enough to go here

This post is good and bad from my prior counterpart.

It’s something I would expect a newb to do. Not Ari.

I think Sky is self aligned but if I am wrong on the setup then wondering what the hell they’re (especially Ari) doing.

[MathBlade]

Honestly, this post is just to claim the pagetop, but what part of Tris' post is so Alien to you? Why do you think it is scum?

Because gut?

Do you expect an actual logical reasoned case for a literal page one read?

Hello y'all i'm a kind of reflexive role, could i get visits on me in the coming nights? Kthxbye

Town.

nice try scum pgo

Town?

this kinda pings my gut though I have trouble explaining why
ehhhh
VOTE: skye

Shamelessly upgrading my read on you from Town? to Town.

VOTE: DoubtingThomas
Who, similarly, gets upgraded from scum? to Scum from page two.

Okay I think Mastina and Skye are against each other.

[MathBlade]

why is town!ari more likely to make that post than tris?

Because tris making that post is probably scum, but Ari making that post is far more likely to be a town-Aristophanes due to Aristophanes being Aristophanes.

You can't expect an action to universally always be scummy or always be townie with 100% accuracy and not take into account specific players. An action that might be generically in-general scummy can be a lock-scumtell for some players or a town indicator for other players even if in general it's scummy; an action that might generically in-general be townie can be a locktown level of town in some players...but also a dead giveaway that some players are actually scum.

25 is a post that, in general, generically speaking, I'd consider to be a scummy post to make.
From tris, I'd go one step further and say it's even a lockscum post.
But from Aristophanes, knowing him as a player, it's actually the opposite, a post that for him, indicates he's more likely to be town.

And this is where I look at Mastina and go ? Uhm what?

Assuming I buy your argument the claims are inverse. And I cannot say why without being proscum/neut.

[MathBlade]

yes towns make scummy posts all the time. scums are the ones trying to actively look as townie as possible, albeit good portion of people do try to play too wolfy to be a wolf game

trying to decipher one's slot based on a few posts that of your personal opinion you believe is 'scummy' and 'townie' is rarely going to be very accurate.

however, trying to push on what you believe and getting reactions, interacting with multiple people really does the trick. so keep at it boys and girls and the others!

You read to me as rusty or new. Which is it and why?

[MathBlade]

Could you like, elaborate on these reads instead of just saying town / scum

I'm told that's what mastina does every game. I for one have no issue with it. Early readlists don't require much explanation

Gypsy + Sky v Mastina + ?

[MathBlade]

Uh it's not you, it's me.

Should I be voting for this DoubtingThomas character?

That's what they all say *sniffle*

And it depends on how much you like early Day 1 Dastardly Deed -1 (DD-1?)

DT is my top scumread right now, but...

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It's 5 to Perform a Dastardly Deed

I think it’s currently at
DT (3): Akarin, Gypyx, Mastina
gypyx (2): DT, SKYE
SKYE (1): PlusJOYED
NicCage (1): Nona

Not Voting: (2): Dunn, NicCage

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For future reference, Page 2 DT vs. SKYE peak wagons were:
DT (3): Akarin, SKYE, Gypyx
SKYE (3): PlusJOYED, Mastina, DT

1 scum in akarin/gypxy/mastina

and 1 in skye/plustjoyed/nona/dunn/niccage i think

dunn and niccage not voting at this point is an alright look

Hmmm I find this odd you’re assuming two scum here. This seems like trying to push a bias here. I don’t like it.

[MathBlade]

None of the above, nic's style is unusual, you can't deny that, therefore i'm asking if someone knows how he usually acts in general, idk why you're even trying to represent that as me reading him in a specific way

nah that is not a townie mindset.

Again, if someone's style is 'unusual' and if you are genuine about solving someone 'unusual' it's townie for you to be the actually trying to interact with t hat slot and/or figure it out

just saying undirected question gets nothing done. i've seen way more scums just ask (not necessarily the same type of) questions in the open air that a lot of people either don't have answer to or answer is straightforward to make it seem it's more obvious that you are asking questions, but in reality those questions doesn't really help any of your solving (e.g. why is X a wagon?)

I really believe if you are town and you genuine thought nic's posting to be weird, you should be asking nic the questions yourself especially by pointing out what was weird/what you are confused about

in fact, you actually NEVER asked nic any questions yourself, you just openly said, "does anyone know this guy's meta?" and then for some reason you think you asked nic yourself, which you never have..

i am thinking this is slip. you don't even know who you directed your questions to, but yout hink you are asking questions. this literally shows you don't care if your questions get answered or not, you are just throwing shit (questions) to the wall and hope it sticks.

you never cared about your question about getting nic's meta anwered by someone. you never asked nic himself to solve his slot. yet you pretend i am misrepresenting you, and also when nic does come in, instead of trying to solve or ask him legit questions, you mistakenly thought you asked him any sort of relevant question, which you have not.

you are a wolf.

Okay you can be rusty. I like this post. You can be light town.

[MathBlade]

I also think NicCage is likely to be town for looking at things outside of the game state. Hard to imagine a wolf to be checking people's activity and when they logged in or not.

No, scum can do it, it's easy to do. It doesn't require me to take any difficult position, and I don't have to defend it since it's an objective fact.
Also, don't do what I did lol rules

So, i kinda doubt that both nic and thomas are scum together, for the reason that like, we have 4 low activity slots i don't think these slots are all town, therefore by PoE i'd say that nic is very likely town

What do you think about my read on you? Does it have any bearing on your read on me?

I like this response from Nic here.

Things like activity overview should be avoided in a game.

Gypyx also goes further down on my reads due to what looks like TMI not together with G.

[MathBlade]

With Nic*