Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

[DrippingGoofball]

Probably Pooky

why

[midwaybear]

I don't know. This game is very interesting. I am definitely less confident, but I still think it is him. peta looks somewhat bad from Nahdia kill, but I haven't thought about other optimal kills.

[petapan]

i would never kill them here, i kill the claimed doctor a thousand times out of a thousand, nevermind that i could have hammered pooky eons ago

[midwaybear]

I know that you've been saying that, but I could also see it as you trying to keep POE large as scum. I also feel like Alisae/Pooky scum would have killed you over Nahdia, but that is mostly WIFOM.

[petapan]

the one immutable fact of my scum play is that i will take the simplest path to victory and do not make things harder for myself for style points. i'm forceful enough to dominate a hypothetical you/me/nahdia 3way were i scum.

but i don't care, really - me persuading you is not my goal today. who is the townie, midwaybear? if you had to bet the game on a single other person being town, who do you choose?

[DrippingGoofball]

midway sounds like scum trying to keep all options open, and I say that having a clear on the slot

[petapan]

i don't know what's making answering this hard for him

[DrippingGoofball]

always hemming, awing, wishing, washing, hesitating...

[petapan]

the odds are good (assuming i'm not wildly underestimating the game lmao). you can guess at random and probably be right. i'm going to assume he just stopped reading in the time it took me to post that reply. but i want that answer from him. because in this situation, that's what you have to do. you have to find the town.

[Alisae]

Pooky, am I a terrible person?

I think if we all understood each other we would realize we have more in common than we have differences.

It's just sometimes distance makes it hard for this to happen.

This is just a game, if I didn't enjoy playing it with any of you - I would not be here and it really shouldn't be personal.

Everyone here is lovely and I think if we just calm down we can laugh and enjoy this game a bit more and it doesn't have to be so hurtful - winning is not that important.

<3

I took a nap because I didn’t really want todo anything else and I kinda just feltbad

[midwaybear]

I'm not townhunting right now and Pooky probably is most likely to be the scum right now. I don't want to lock someone as town and try to auto like that.

[Alisae]

I like feel better now but I don’t think its okay for me to feel better idunno

[midwaybear]

Also, I don’t think you can call it scummy that I’m not willing to fully put my “trust” in one person.

[Alisae]

i cant believe mwb-gf-scum is still here spinning this game is wild

the thing i keep coming back to is why does a scum godfather ever shoot jake night 3

but why not shoot the doctor claim

Has anyone answered these questions?

I could see midway shooting Jake because
- he’s bad at scum
- Jake is in the Deathy and had a chance to be the insane/sane cop
- due to having a chance to be the insane/sane cop, things would get out of control really quickly if Jake was insane and Tammy was sane.

As for not shooting the doctors, due to the amount of viable kills there were, there’s no need to shoot them until you absolutely have to. Prior to day 5, me and pooky were lovers so if they did want to shoot us to bring the game to F4, they would do it then. And there was a no kill.

[Alisae]

jake is a confirmed innocent mason who was not going to be protected

the godfather has to kill the masons to win the game

Also this

[petapan]

this is really unfortunate because while the game prior to this was tense and stressful (and i was complaining myself, i admit), up to now it was a pretty clean game, and now there's always going to be this weird bitter note over the end of it. it's the first game i've played with tammy in almost 8 years and it's disappointing she wound up exiting like this. sorry tammy. i should have broken that fight up but i didn't know what to say. i'm glad we got to play again, anyway.

this is not to disparage you in anyway dgb, you're a godsend for replacing in, it's just a less than ideal situation, through no fault of your own. thanks for being here

alisae now is reminding me of our first game together, hitting those same emotional notes. that game was also a harrowing emotional affair that i completely choked away in endgame and left me in a funk for weeks. that's not suggesting this is ome kind of sympathy play here, i just felt e was being genuine in being frustrated with tammy and didn't feel like scum arguing with a clear

pooky's willingness to put himself on the line here also felt believable. he is tricky, though - once when i was new he did a very dirty trick where he half-bolded an action to fake using it. but i have also seen him lay his heart out and have towns vote him out anyway and this feels closer to that than trickery on his part.

midwaybear, i like you, but i don't know what you're doing right now and there have been weird moments all game where you seemed to be trying to expand the poe. you've had really believable sounding reactions and you've scared the hell out of me and it feels out of line with your scumplay but right now you feel disconnected.

no logic, just emotions. i'm not gonna vote because midway deserves a chance to answer me, but in spirit i'm voting there. sorry if i'm being a complete fool, hardly optimal but i'm just going on feelings at this point.

[petapan]

Also, I don’t think you can call it scummy that I’m not willing to fully put my “trust” in one person.

how can you not pick one person as town, you have better than a coinflip odds

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I like feel better now but I don’t think its okay for me to feel better idunno

Alisae, nobody should feel bad playing mafia.

this is a social game ~ our actions here are for a common goal.

that goal isnt btw to "win" - its to have fun together. sometimes people get emotional over things but emotions are good - it would be incredibly boring to play like a robot.

*hugs*

[Alisae]

I had fun this game

[DrippingGoofball]

jake is a confirmed innocent mason who was not going to be protected

the godfather has to kill the masons to win the game

Also this

Why wouldn't he be protected?

[Alisae]

because we said in thread that we were protecting Tammy.

[Alisae]

Well rather I said that.
At the time we were in thread mason lover doctors.

Jake was also unprotected because quite frankly he wasn't doing much in thread throughout the whole game. The Deathy said that most of his contributions were in hood.

[Alisae]

Tammy was just the better player to protect basically

[midwaybear]

I probably disconnected because all of you think I’m scum. What do you want me to answer for you?

[DrippingGoofball]

because we said in thread that we were protecting Tammy.

Ohhhhhh naaaaaah

No

That's like WIFOM-ception.

That whole premise stinks rotten.