Newbie 2037 - Game Over

MiniMegabyte · Post Post #775 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:25 am

VOTE: bakslash

Gonna vote here just because they are worse with little to no posts at all but I think if this slot flips scum Norwegian is next

Norfolk Boy1 · Post Post #776 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:33 am

I suppose that logically speaking, scum have to send their most null or townread player to commit kills.

There's nobody more invisible than Bakslash.

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #777 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 12:46 am

I'm a bit paranoid about Mini pushing this Bakslash wagon. Rockhopper just screams scum to me with their recent posts and i think they would be the better elimination today over someone with virtually no presence like Bakslash.

MiniMegabyte · Post Post #778 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:04 am

Wouldn’t you rather get rid of a non poster now and be able to vote out a scummy person knowing they they are very well likely to flip scum at a more crucial point?

Norfolk Boy1 · Post Post #779 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:06 am

In fairness, it's pretty crucial now.

I'm dead tonight so there's no additional information coming for D3.

MiniMegabyte · Post Post #780 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:07 am

Dam alright we need to have a serious look and see who is best elimination today

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #781 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:08 am

In post 778, MiniMegabyte wrote:Wouldn’t you rather get rid of a non poster now and be able to vote out a scummy person knowing they they are very well likely to flip scum at a more crucial point?

You raise an point in that it might be better to get rid of Bakslash early. Either they are scum or an bad lead. But i think Rockhopper voting to sacrifice Facebones and then using their read on me as proof i'm scum is worse.

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #782 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:11 am

Also i thought you said you believed me and Bakslash might be a team Mini.
What's your current read on Rock? Do you townread them?

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #783 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 1:12 am

Also i see Rockhopper constantly being online in the activity list but not posting anything even though the conversation's about him.
You can come out of the scum PT now Rock. It's ok.

Norfolk Boy1 · Post Post #784 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:20 am

I don't see Bakslash as scum. There's lurking and there's being so absent that it radiates. Do scum draw attention to themselves like that?

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #785 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:29 am

In post 784, Norfolk Boy1 wrote:I don't see Bakslash as scum. There's lurking and there's being so absent that it radiates. Do scum draw attention to themselves like that?

Yeah, in my experience scum rarely plays like they do. There's scum lurking (and they usually show to have an agenda) and then there's those that don't do anything. Which is more of an towntell. (Even if i hate the playstyle)

Rockhopper · Post Post #786 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:31 am

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #787 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:33 am

ItalianoVD · Post Post #788 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:18 am

If we mislynch we are in Lylo with 2 scum. I agree, I think we need to take as much time as we have to make sure we hit scum today.

Also who’s the least likely player scum would want in Lylo?

ItalianoVD · Post Post #789 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:35 am

@Norwegian: Why is it pretty bad if someone decides to push the 50% possibility that you’re scum instead of town? 50% less likely to be scum does not clear you. If you’re scum it could have been your partner doing the kill as I said, but no one knows that. Also, Rockhopper voted for you before he had the info from Norfolk.

@Norfolk: I’m curious as to why you tracked Norwegian instead of me when it seemed as if I was your highest scumread? Seems like something you’d want to check.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #790 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:51 am

In post 783, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Also i see Rockhopper constantly being online in the activity list but not posting anything even though the conversation's about him.
You can come out of the scum PT now Rock. It's ok.

I don’t like this.

Also online activity is a sham, you know this.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #791 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:58 am

In post 771, MiniMegabyte wrote:
In post 761, ItalianoVD wrote:If Norwegian is scum, Norway tracked him nowhere, which means his partner did the kill. He also wouldn’t be the rolecop. Bakslash is a scum partner in every scenario.
So you’re saying Norwegian/backslash as a scum team?

I’m saying it’s a possibility.

Possible associations:

Norwegian/bakslash
Rockhopper/Mini
Rockhopper/bakslash
Mini/bakslash
Rockhopper/Norwegian

The last one is the least likely imo, but also one I’m not gonna brush off like it can’t happen.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #792 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:09 am

In post 763, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 761, ItalianoVD wrote:Bakslash is a scum partner in every scenario.
Makes sense from your perspective. But I'm not fully convinced about how a Mini/Norw team is a less likely matchup.

I don’t think both scum would have been voting together. On Day 1. On a wagon that could have very well been flipped. That’s not smart scum play

In post 101, Micc wrote:
Votecount 1.02
bakslash (3) -
padwag, ItalianoVD, Rockhopper

ItalianoVD (2) -
MiniMegabyte, Billy Pilgrim

Norfolk Boy1 (1) -
Facebones

Not Voting (3) -
Bakslash, Norfolk Boy1, Dunnstral

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-10-30 12:15:00).

In post 294, Micc wrote:
Votecount 1.06
Norfolk Boy1 (4) -
Dunnstral,
Billy Pilgrim
, ItalianoVD,
MiniMegabyte

Dunnstral (2) -
Facebones, Bakslash

MiniMegabyte (1) -
Rockhopper

ItalianoVD (1) -
Norfolk Boy1

Not Voting (1) -
padwag

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-10-30 12:15:00).

In post 322, Micc wrote:
Votecount 1.07
Norfolk Boy1 (4) -
Dunnstral, ItalianoVD,
MiniMegabyte
,
Billy Pilgrim

ItalianoVD (2) -
Norfolk Boy1, Facebones

Dunnstral (1) -
Bakslash

MiniMegabyte (1) -
Rockhopper

Not Voting (1) -
padwag

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 1 is paused at 13 hours.

In post 340, Micc wrote:
Votecount 1.08
Norfolk Boy1 (3) -
ItalianoVD,
MiniMegabyte
,
Billy Pilgrim

ItalianoVD (2) -
Norfolk Boy1, Facebones

Dunnstral (1) -
Bakslash

MiniMegabyte (1) -
Rockhopper

Not Voting (1) -
padwag, Dunnstral

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 1 is paused at 2 days.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #793 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:15 am

In post 765, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 756, ItalianoVD wrote:Dunn hammered. Scum usually don’t like hammering, especially on a townie. Dunn is town.
Seriously? Dunn hammered an wagon when there was barely any time left. Do you think any scum would just stand idly by in that scenario because "scum don’t like to hammer"?

I could be wrong on Dunn, but I don’t think I am. From what I’ve seen on this site, scum don’t mind hammering if it’s their partner and even then there’s some reluctance. On a townie? Nope.

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #794 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:17 am

In post 793, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 765, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 756, ItalianoVD wrote:Dunn hammered. Scum usually don’t like hammering, especially on a townie. Dunn is town.
Seriously? Dunn hammered an wagon when there was barely any time left. Do you think any scum would just stand idly by in that scenario because "scum don’t like to hammer"?
I could be wrong on Dunn, but I don’t think I am. From what I’ve seen on this site, scum don’t mind hammering if it’s their partner and even then there’s some reluctance. On a townie? Nope.

Your answer didn’t actually address my point.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #795 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:32 am

In post 322, Micc wrote:
Votecount 1.07
Norfolk Boy1 (4) -
Dunnstral, ItalianoVD, MiniMegabyte, Billy Pilgrim

ItalianoVD (2) -
Norfolk Boy1, Facebones

Dunnstral (1) -
Bakslash

MiniMegabyte (1) -
Rockhopper

Not Voting (1) -
padwag

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

The deadline for Day 1 is paused at 13 hours.

If everyone on Norfolk is town then the scumteam is (Rockhopper/bakslash)

If Billy/Norwegian is scum his partner was off wagon (bakslash/Rockhopper)

If Mini is scum her partner was off wagon (bakslash/Rockhopper)

I’m not scum and I believe Dunn is not scum. This is why I said what I said in 451. It wasn’t manipulation, it was a scenario where everyone on your wagon was town, which is not an impossibility. Many times town wagons are pushed by town. Scum can and do hide in there, but I don’t see it in newbie games. Scum wanna look as town as possible and warrant the least amount of attention.

ItalianoVD · Post Post #796 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:34 am

In post 794, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 793, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 765, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 756, ItalianoVD wrote:Dunn hammered. Scum usually don’t like hammering, especially on a townie. Dunn is town.
Seriously? Dunn hammered an wagon when there was barely any time left. Do you think any scum would just stand idly by in that scenario because "scum don’t like to hammer"?
I could be wrong on Dunn, but I don’t think I am. From what I’ve seen on this site, scum don’t mind hammering if it’s their partner and even then there’s some reluctance. On a townie? Nope.
Your answer didn’t actually address my point.

My bad. Are you asking if I think scum wouldn’t hammer in that scenario or that they would?

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #797 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:36 am

I believe you’re town Italiano, but if i see bad logic from you i am going to call it out.

Bakslash · Post Post #798 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:38 am

In post 766, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I do agree on your read of Bakslash and Mini. They have both been actively lurking. Just popping in at various times with not very informative posts. One of Rocks partners is probably in there. It could be Mini and he’s trying to force an false association with me.

Same thing can be said about Dunnstral

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #799 (ISO) » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:38 am

In post 796, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 794, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 793, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 765, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 756, ItalianoVD wrote:Dunn hammered. Scum usually don’t like hammering, especially on a townie. Dunn is town.
Seriously? Dunn hammered an wagon when there was barely any time left. Do you think any scum would just stand idly by in that scenario because "scum don’t like to hammer"?
I could be wrong on Dunn, but I don’t think I am. From what I’ve seen on this site, scum don’t mind hammering if it’s their partner and even then there’s some reluctance. On a townie? Nope.
Your answer didn’t actually address my point.
My bad. Are you asking if I think scum wouldn’t hammer in that scenario or that they would?

It was close to deadline and thus while i’m not necesarilly arguing Dunnstral is scum, i think that townbinning them for that reason alone is an mistake.
Any scum might hammer in that scenario due to time remaining justifying it.