Death Curse

[Bell]

Means you’re being assertive to get town read but are playing as scum here.

That makes zero sense. I am not widely townread at all. I am also not being nice either.

Sorry, you’re trying to get town read by being assertive and failing.

[Titus]

so shelly has been pushing me as scum with fred for a while. and pooky keeps coming in to defend shelly.

Gonna peg Tayl0r as town for this, actually.

Scum promoting scum as town.

You think scum!Shelley would try to derail Fred wagon onto scum!Tayl0r? Also why is DGB scum as opposed to just wrong if Shelley/Tayl0r are buddies?

She knew it wouldn't work. If you already know you're getting executed, why not distance?

DGB suddenly appears from nowhere to promote Taylor town but not do any solving.

I think it strange that anyone would have Tayl0r as #1 town pre-Shelley flip. I’m also kind’ve getting pinged by the pushes on Titus who like Pooky is pretty obvious town. Even more concerning is anyone who has Noraa as scum here. Noraa was already pretty much a consensus tr even before Fred put her in danger, so in what world does scum!Fred go this much on a limb to hard distance an already consensus tr? That theory makes absolutely no sense.

So you're claiming DGB and Taylor makes sense and DGB's reads don't to be clear?

[Tayl0r Swift]

so shelly has been pushing me as scum with fred for a while. and pooky keeps coming in to defend shelly.

Gonna peg Tayl0r as town for this, actually.

Scum promoting scum as town.

You think scum!Shelley would try to derail Fred wagon onto scum!Tayl0r? Also why is DGB scum as opposed to just wrong if Shelley/Tayl0r are buddies?

She knew it wouldn't work. If you already know you're getting executed, why not distance?

DGB suddenly appears from nowhere to promote Taylor town but not do any solving.

I think it strange that anyone would have Tayl0r as #1 town pre-Shelley flip. I’m also kind’ve getting pinged by the pushes on Titus who like Pooky is pretty obvious town. Even more concerning is anyone who has Noraa as scum here. Noraa was already pretty much a consensus tr even before Fred put her in danger, so in what world does scum!Fred go this much on a limb to hard distance an already consensus tr? That theory makes absolutely no sense.

gloria who is your gth scumteam?

[Gloria Cleary]

Means you’re being assertive to get town read but are playing as scum here.

I think you’re wrong. Have you read any of Titus’ games?

[Bell]

I’ve played with Titus 3-4 times. Quite recently.

[Tayl0r Swift]

this is not what town!titus looks or feels like, although ive only played with titus once iirc.

[Flea The Magician]

It would be really interesting if all of these pairings were just wifom on Fred‘s part. I think that all of the evidence either suggests either Shelley > Fidget > Flea if she’s scum or Fidget > Flea if she’s town.

Want to elaborate on how I'm connected in here plz?


While I'm here, VOTE: ShellyC which clears teh way for the Noraammer.

[Bell]

I don’t think how you’re using meta is quite right.
Er, if there is a right way to meta people.

Claiming to be an authority on another player is not sufficient.
I’ve had friends fool each other multiple times who have extensive knowledge of one another.
I’m not sure on Titus. Or really, anyone. It’s a rare thing for me to be comfortable with a read like with Fred. And even there I doubted myself.

[Bell]

UNVOTE:

[DrippingGoofball]

this is not what town!titus looks or feels like, although ive only played with titus once iirc.

YESSSSS

All the answers are in this game, her posts are not town.

[Bell]

Gunna take some time outta my day later tonight and try to be more certain.
Or I won’t!

[Gloria Cleary]

so shelly has been pushing me as scum with fred for a while. and pooky keeps coming in to defend shelly.

Gonna peg Tayl0r as town for this, actually.

Scum promoting scum as town.

You think scum!Shelley would try to derail Fred wagon onto scum!Tayl0r? Also why is DGB scum as opposed to just wrong if Shelley/Tayl0r are buddies?

She knew it wouldn't work. If you already know you're getting executed, why not distance?

DGB suddenly appears from nowhere to promote Taylor town but not do any solving.

I think it strange that anyone would have Tayl0r as #1 town pre-Shelley flip. I’m also kind’ve getting pinged by the pushes on Titus who like Pooky is pretty obvious town. Even more concerning is anyone who has Noraa as scum here. Noraa was already pretty much a consensus tr even before Fred put her in danger, so in what world does scum!Fred go this much on a limb to hard distance an already consensus tr? That theory makes absolutely no sense.

So you're claiming DGB and Taylor makes sense and DGB's reads don't to be clear?

I’m really not sure what you’re asking. I don’t understand Tayl0r being a #1 tr pre-Shelley flip. Wrt her reads, I think that I can’t understand how anyone can have Noraa anywhere other than in their town column. It’s just wild to me that anyone would seriously think that scum!Fred would put his buddy Noraa in clear danger in order to distance when she’s already a consensus tr. That’s the part that weirds me out the most about it.

[MURDERCAT]

I didn't like how Titus tested the waters with UNO before shifting to Shelly if Shelly does come up scum

[Tayl0r Swift]

gloria what is your gun to head scumteam?

[Tayl0r Swift]

I’m really not sure what you’re asking. I don’t understand Tayl0r being a #1 tr pre-Shelley flip. Wrt her reads, I think that I can’t understand how anyone can have Noraa anywhere other than in their town column. It’s just wild to me that anyone would seriously think that scum!Fred would put his buddy Noraa in clear danger in order to distance when she’s already a consensus tr. That’s the part that weirds me out the most about it.

i dunno i feel like my reads make me spewed town here. the game is closing in on a few people who i had on my scumlist from near the start of the game.

[Gloria Cleary]

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Votecount 1.20

(FINAL)

[11] Toogeloo:

Hopkirk, MURDERCAT, Titus, Toogeloo, Theta Alpine, MUSHSHAGANA, Lady Lambdadelta, Noraa, UNOwen, shellyc, Bell

HAMMER

[2] Tayl0r Swift:

PookyTheMagicalBear, Bell

[2] Bell:

Tayl0r Swift, Vaxkiller

[2] shellyc:

Fidget, Flea The Magician

[1] Noraa:

Adorable

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear

Gloria Cleary

[1] Adorable:

Lapsa

[1] Not Voting:

Zdenek

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to curse someone with the scroll. If there is no majority by the deadline, the mafia will choose who to curse.

The cursing deadline is in (expired on 2020-10-28 03:35:35).

Joint moderator ISO.

@Flea, both you and Fidget were on Shelley.

¶

Votecount 2.5

(FINAL)

[9] Fredrick A Campbell:

Bell, MUSHSHAGANA, Flea The Magician, PookyTheMagicalBear, UNOwen, MURDERCAT, Titus, shellyc, Fidget

[1] Noraa:

Adorable

[1] Tayl0r Swift:

Fredrick A Campbell

[1] Fidget:

Tayl0r Swift

[1] Adorable:

Theta Alpine

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear:

Noraa

[3] Not Voting:

Lady Lambdadelta, DrippingGoofball, Gloria Cleary

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to curse someone with the scroll. If there is no majority by the deadline, the mafia will choose who to curse.

The cursing deadline is in (expired on 2020-11-06 21:29:24).

Joint moderator ISO.

And all three of you were on Fred.

shellyc, Flea The Magician, Adorable and Gloria Cleary.

Then this.

And I’ve already discussed Fred’s switch from scrolling Adorable to LLD after she changed her scroll target from Noraa to Fidget. I mean it’s possible that all of this is sheer cooincidence but what are the odds?

[Tayl0r Swift]

i think id expect that theres <.5 scum in my townlist. in other words, i bet that theres more likely 0 scum than any other number of scum. id be shocked if there is more than 1 scum in my town list. id guess 3+ scum in my scum list and 0-1 in my nulls.

[Gloria Cleary]

gloria what is your gun to head scumteam?

It depends on the flip but I think Fidget and Flea look pretty bad regardless based on what I just posted. If Shelley flips town then Idk.

[Tayl0r Swift]

gloria what is your gun to head scumteam?

It depends on the flip but I think Fidget and Flea look pretty bad regardless based on what I just posted. If Shelley flips town then Idk.

so you think the scumteam is {fred, shelly, fidget, flea, ???}
can you provide a 5th name? and if fidget and flea look bad regardless then why does shelly's townflip make you unsure?

[Bell]

I didn't like how Titus tested the waters with UNO before shifting to Shelly if Shelly does come up scum

Could be a pooky scenario where scum Titus just tryin’ be off wagon. Whilst still pushing another town down.

[Gloria Cleary]

I’m really not sure what you’re asking. I don’t understand Tayl0r being a #1 tr pre-Shelley flip. Wrt her reads, I think that I can’t understand how anyone can have Noraa anywhere other than in their town column. It’s just wild to me that anyone would seriously think that scum!Fred would put his buddy Noraa in clear danger in order to distance when she’s already a consensus tr. That’s the part that weirds me out the most about it.

i dunno i feel like my reads make me spewed town here. the game is closing in on a few people who i had on my scumlist from near the start of the game.

Well speaking for myself. I’m still null on you but what is your opinion on anyone who has Noraa in their scumpool? I don’t understand how anyone reading the game has Noraa!scum here. No way does scum!Fred put his buddy Noraa in obvious jeopardy when she’s already a consensus tr, so why aren’t you more concerned why Noraa isn’t one of her top trs? You just don’t risk a potential bus on a buddy that’s already a consensus tr.

I guess I don’t understand why you aren’t mentioning that at all.

[Bell]

I see a fairly clear trajectory where shell wagon stalled until she came out with Owen being her throw. Then it picked up like nobody’s business.

[MURDERCAT]

I didn't like how Titus tested the waters with UNO before shifting to Shelly if Shelly does come up scum

Could be a pooky scenario where scum Titus just tryin’ be off wagon. Whilst still pushing another town down.

So you are thinking it's possible that shelly and Uno are both town and scum titus is ok with either? If that were the case I don't think it's worth switching onto Shelly. I think what may have happened is scum Titus wanted to make sure she was on the wagon after the flip and saw that it was speeding up.

[Bell]

Mmmm. Maybe?

[MURDERCAT]

I think maybe is the right response, FWIW. I've been solidly questioning Titus since her replace in and that's still the state I'm in.