This also works.In post 620, Akarin wrote:Nic, who are your top 4-5 town reads? Maybe approach it from the PoE angle.
I am aware of that and I myself am prone to it.In post 619, Akarin wrote:Math, I just meant that I think tunneling town is a simpler and more likely explanation.
Towns have been known to tunnel from time to time.
Town: You, SKYEIn post 620, Akarin wrote:Nic, who are your top 4-5 town reads? Maybe approach it from the PoE angle.
Does that just come from PoE?In post 629, MathBlade wrote:VOTE: Gypyx
Seems we agree here. I do not read them as town either. Akarin do you?
Somewhat. G’s play is horrible and I read them as scum almost no matter what.In post 630, NicCage wrote:Does that just come from PoE?In post 629, MathBlade wrote:VOTE: Gypyx
Seems we agree here. I do not read them as town either. Akarin do you?
What I am asking is, what is the difference between threatening me with elimination if I don't scumhunt, and my constant poking into Dunn's motivations throughout the game? Yes I know you do not have the PT. But Dunn has corroborated the vast majority of it.In post 622, MathBlade wrote:I see it as more of an exploration.In post 621, NicCage wrote:What do you see as the difference between this standard you are applying to me, and the one I was applying to Dunn?In post 618, MathBlade wrote:If Nic hunts I have no problem backing off and reevaluating.
You said you’re not rereading fine. But you’re not taking what you’ve already read and trying to figure out more. It seems like it’s more of a strategy to eliminate Dunn versus a read. You’re saying you don’t “know” what to do. If you’re town, no town knows what to do. We just ask questions and try to figure it out.
I want to see you doing your best to figure out who is scum with Dunn if you’re not willing to reevaluate that read.
The opposite. If you don’t hunt, my point is proven for me that you’re pushing Dunn as a strategy and not as a read and with that gone you don’t know what to do. I won’t have to push you as my case makes itself. I would still vote you but you can’t be town if you don’t hunt. If you refuse to pretend to be town, I refuse to give you the benefit of the doubt you are. Right now I am. That can change if you don’t hunt.In post 636, NicCage wrote:What I am asking is, what is the difference between threatening me with elimination if I don't scumhunt, and my constant poking into Dunn's motivations throughout the game? Yes I know you do not have the PT. But Dunn has corroborated the vast majority of it.In post 622, MathBlade wrote:I see it as more of an exploration.In post 621, NicCage wrote:What do you see as the difference between this standard you are applying to me, and the one I was applying to Dunn?In post 618, MathBlade wrote:If Nic hunts I have no problem backing off and reevaluating.
You said you’re not rereading fine. But you’re not taking what you’ve already read and trying to figure out more. It seems like it’s more of a strategy to eliminate Dunn versus a read. You’re saying you don’t “know” what to do. If you’re town, no town knows what to do. We just ask questions and try to figure it out.
I want to see you doing your best to figure out who is scum with Dunn if you’re not willing to reevaluate that read.
Are you suggesting that you really don't mean to follow through with voting me if I absolutely refuse to do anything?
I don't see how launching such a poor argument like Gypyx did is 3p indicative.In post 633, MathBlade wrote:Bizarre as either alignment generally means 3P if it’s an option.
It’s PoE.In post 638, NicCage wrote:I don't see how launching such a poor argument like Gypyx did is 3p indicative.In post 633, MathBlade wrote:Bizarre as either alignment generally means 3P if it’s an option.
Can you put into your own words the question you think I am asking you right now?In post 637, MathBlade wrote:The opposite. If you don’t hunt, my point is proven for me that you’re pushing Dunn as a strategy and not as a read and with that gone you don’t know what to do. I won’t have to push you as my case makes itself. I would still vote you but you can’t be town if you don’t hunt. If you refuse to pretend to be town, I refuse to give you the benefit of the doubt you are. Right now I am. That can change if you don’t hunt.
The thing is, I can't imagine what 3P wincon makes any sense for his pushing me at that time and doubling down on it after Tris defended me. That whole segment of game just doesn't seem like a scum plan to me no matter how I look at it.In post 633, MathBlade wrote:Bizarre as either alignment generally means 3P if it’s an option.
My thoughts are Mastina, Nic, and G are all 3Ps.
What the fuck do I do to convince Math I am hunting?In post 640, NicCage wrote:Can you put into your own words the question you think I am asking you right now?In post 637, MathBlade wrote:The opposite. If you don’t hunt, my point is proven for me that you’re pushing Dunn as a strategy and not as a read and with that gone you don’t know what to do. I won’t have to push you as my case makes itself. I would still vote you but you can’t be town if you don’t hunt. If you refuse to pretend to be town, I refuse to give you the benefit of the doubt you are. Right now I am. That can change if you don’t hunt.
It's a bad argument, a really bad one. An obviously miscalculated argument, unless you believe he is being bizarre on purpose. It's a mistake. You think it is not a scum or town mistake?In post 639, MathBlade wrote:It’s PoE.In post 638, NicCage wrote:I don't see how launching such a poor argument like Gypyx did is 3p indicative.In post 633, MathBlade wrote:Bizarre as either alignment generally means 3P if it’s an option.
If it’s not a town argument, and not a scum argument, then it’s a 3P by default. His play doesn’t feel scum oriented except with maybe one or two people, but at the same time it doesn’t feel town.
Will read that on my lunch break.In post 641, Akarin wrote:The thing is, I can't imagine what 3P wincon makes any sense for his pushing me at that time and doubling down on it after Tris defended me. That whole segment of game just doesn't seem like a scum plan to me no matter how I look at it.In post 633, MathBlade wrote:Bizarre as either alignment generally means 3P if it’s an option.
My thoughts are Mastina, Nic, and G are all 3Ps.
Here's the start of what I'm talking about.
No. Please be charitable to me. I'm not asking what hidden intentions are behind my question. I don't think you are understanding what I am getting at and I want you to at least grasp my point, even if you disagree with it.In post 642, MathBlade wrote:What the fuck do I do to convince Math I am hunting?In post 640, NicCage wrote:Can you put into your own words the question you think I am asking you right now?In post 637, MathBlade wrote:The opposite. If you don’t hunt, my point is proven for me that you’re pushing Dunn as a strategy and not as a read and with that gone you don’t know what to do. I won’t have to push you as my case makes itself. I would still vote you but you can’t be town if you don’t hunt. If you refuse to pretend to be town, I refuse to give you the benefit of the doubt you are. Right now I am. That can change if you don’t hunt.
In post 647, NicCage wrote:No. Please be charitable to me. I'm not asking what hidden intentions are behind my question. I don't think you are understanding what I am getting at and I want you to at least grasp my point, even if you disagree with it.In post 642, MathBlade wrote:What the fuck do I do to convince Math I am hunting?In post 640, NicCage wrote:Can you put into your own words the question you think I am asking you right now?In post 637, MathBlade wrote:The opposite. If you don’t hunt, my point is proven for me that you’re pushing Dunn as a strategy and not as a read and with that gone you don’t know what to do. I won’t have to push you as my case makes itself. I would still vote you but you can’t be town if you don’t hunt. If you refuse to pretend to be town, I refuse to give you the benefit of the doubt you are. Right now I am. That can change if you don’t hunt.
