Death Curse

[Bell]

Oh and Noraa.

[shellyc]

Well Shelly,
It’s your show now.
Were you scum? Or are you going to do a song and dance.
I’m still mad at friend for lying to me.

I was obviously town-

planning to hit uno

[MURDERCAT]

I'll believe it when you vote

[Titus]

I'll believe it when you vote

This. No reason to believe anything anyone says until they vote.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

And a HURT tag isn't a vote.

DGB replaced Lapsa, so DGB can be scum.

[Gloria Cleary]

Shelley scumflip definitely points to Fidget as a likely buddy.

Why do people keep saying this? It's getting on my nerves. Next you're going to say scum!shelly implicates taylor or Flea by virtue of us being on her so long. I haven't actually found the reasoning for me being with shelly yet, but if it's anything like the Frederick-Fidget reasoning, I will probably hate it.

Anyway, I see shelly's been given the scroll. What happens next, shelly? C:

I think that’s kind of a reach. The Flea associatives aren’t as strong as yours. Tayl0r is still somewhat of a mystery to me. I think Titus’ theory about her and Shelley being linked I lean against. I think she actually was trying to switch it to Tayl0r.

AtE doesn’t really sway me much and I don’t find yours particularly convincing. I’m picking up more nervousness than outrage. Both you and Flea dismissed my theory but they seemed to be la lot less rattled, so if I’m wrong on one of you, it’s probably Flea.

[MURDERCAT]

And a HURT tag isn't a vote.

DGB replaced Lapsa, so DGB can be scum.

I am watching this as well

[Gloria Cleary]

Spoiler:

I don't owe Noraa a damn thing.

Hahaha that was fucked up.

Don't particularly want to speculate too much on shelly's most likely partner yet in case it influences how she scrolls.

Even outside of the shelly flip I think Taylor is town here. The interactions with Fred were too harsh from his end for me to imagine that being a doomed scum distancing from his partner. In particular the bit where he pressed Taylor for having poor reasons to be defending him, which is not so much "if I go down you look townie" instead "if I'm going down then you'll be next!". Also, her play around the Fred flip doesn't really have a coherent scum strategy - switching from "scum are trying to execute Fred" to "no longer town reading Fred" to "Fidget scum means Fred is town". I've seen town Taylor pull this sort of drastic turn based on wagon dynamics before, so I can well believe that was her thought process.

Yup, my thoughts exactly.

Whoever said we have to throw it at UNO after shelly, there's no point because we already got the scum in the pair. And if we didn't, then you can correct that tomorrow after, you know, viewing the flip. Also Gloria makes a good point that UNO probably isn't even obvscum after town!Shelly. I think the moral of the story for me is just kill shelly, which we already did.

I definitely do believe that Fred didn’t want Fidget yeeted for whatever reason and that’s why he switched his scroll from Adorable to LLD.

Why does Fred actually ever give the scroll to Adorable? For your theory to be correct,

Fred had to intend to give the scroll to Adorable at first. It makes no sense otherwise.

Can I please have a talk about this? Why would Fred ever throw the scroll at Adorable, or why is that critical bit of info not necessary for your theory? If I were scum I'd be even more irked than I am rn reading this reasoning because I guarantee it'd be wrong.

At least if Tayl0r is scum in this game she has not only gotten a lot better at it but her confidence in her scum game has increased a ton

I agree!

but scum is in:

shelly/(uno)
fidget
titus
dgb
pooky
flea

I think this might be really close if you remove Pooky and me.

shelly
titus
dgb
flea

Only issue maybe being while I was rereading last night, it seemed kind of like DGB and Titus weren't partners cause DGB seemed pretty adamant about Titus being scum. So I'd probably only kill 1 of that 2. Someone's missing..

What do you mean wrt the Fred scrolls? How did he not intend to give it to Adorable? He placed a HURT tag on her and AFTER that she switched her scroll target from Noraa to you and then Fred switched it from Adorable to LLD. So, tell me then, what is your theory on why Fred switched his scroll target from Adorable to LLD?

[Bell]

Well Shelly,
It’s your show now.
Were you scum? Or are you going to do a song and dance.
I’m still mad at friend for lying to me.

I was obviously town-

planning to hit uno

If you were obviously town then why did you get eliminated through majority vote.

[MURDERCAT]

That reaction makes me pretty confident Shelly is scum waiting for the PT to respond tbh

[MURDERCAT]

Well that and that she dipped right after

[Gloria Cleary]

Spoiler:

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Votecount 1.20

(FINAL)

[11] Toogeloo:

Hopkirk, MURDERCAT, Titus, Toogeloo, Theta Alpine, MUSHSHAGANA, Lady Lambdadelta, Noraa, UNOwen, shellyc, Bell

HAMMER

[2] Tayl0r Swift:

PookyTheMagicalBear, Bell

[2] Bell:

Tayl0r Swift, Vaxkiller

[2] shellyc:

Fidget, Flea The Magician

[1] Noraa:

Adorable

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear

Gloria Cleary

[1] Adorable:

Lapsa

[1] Not Voting:

Zdenek

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to curse someone with the scroll. If there is no majority by the deadline, the mafia will choose who to curse.

The cursing deadline is in (expired on 2020-10-28 03:35:35).

Joint moderator ISO.

@Flea, both you and Fidget were on Shelley.

¶

Votecount 2.5

(FINAL)

[9] Fredrick A Campbell:

Bell, MUSHSHAGANA, Flea The Magician, PookyTheMagicalBear, UNOwen, MURDERCAT, Titus, shellyc, Fidget

[1] Noraa:

Adorable

[1] Tayl0r Swift:

Fredrick A Campbell

[1] Fidget:

Tayl0r Swift

[1] Adorable:

Theta Alpine

[1] PookyTheMagicalBear:

Noraa

[3] Not Voting:

Lady Lambdadelta, DrippingGoofball, Gloria Cleary

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to curse someone with the scroll. If there is no majority by the deadline, the mafia will choose who to curse.

The cursing deadline is in (expired on 2020-11-06 21:29:24).

Joint moderator ISO.

And all three of you were on Fred.

shellyc, Flea The Magician, Adorable and Gloria Cleary.

Then this.

And I’ve already discussed Fred’s switch from scrolling Adorable to LLD after she changed her scroll target from Noraa to Fidget. I mean it’s possible that all of this is sheer cooincidence but what are the odds?

So this is the reasoning that implicates me with shelly I take it? Because I've been voteparking shelly and also voted Fred? It's this, plus the aforementioned Adorable swap, then. Is that it?

......

Right. So let's get back to shelly. I await her next move with great anticipation.

It looks like Fred was fine with Noraa getting the scroll but not you, because he switched his scroll target from Adorable to LLD after she switched her scroll target to you.

[Gloria Cleary]

I need to re-evaluate again.
I’m probably clearing Gloria and adorable for bad reasons.

Hmm . . . trying to decide which or both of you or Mush belong in the bad reads club wrt me and probably Adorable, since MC has already graduated.

[Gloria Cleary]

Resetting to murdercat, mush, me town block again.

Oh and Noraa.

Those reads are actually good.

[MURDERCAT]

Shelly, if you are deciding which town block member to yeet, take Noraa

[Gloria Cleary]

Well Shelly,
It’s your show now.
Were you scum? Or are you going to do a song and dance.
I’m still mad at friend for lying to me.

I was obviously town-

planning to hit uno

If you were obviously town then why did you get eliminated through majority vote.

@Shelley, you know who is obviously town? Noraa who you inexplicably have in your scum pile.

[Gloria Cleary]

Shelly, if you are deciding which town block member to yeet, take Noraa

Why? Noraa is like the closest thing we have to an IC.

[MURDERCAT]

Nah

[Gloria Cleary]

Shelly, if you are deciding which town block member to yeet, take Noraa

Why? Noraa is like the closest thing we have to an IC.

If she picks me, I have a pretty good idea who I’d be handing it to.

[Adorable]

Fidget is asking a question that has already been answered from before.

[UNOwen]

Does my doom approacheth?

[Gloria Cleary]

Nah

How is she not almost IC? Fred put her in obvious danger and it’s pretty damned obvious that he was fine with her being scrolled.

[MURDERCAT]

Probably not

[Adorable]

Nah

How is she not almost IC? Fred put her in obvious danger and it’s pretty damned obvious that he was fine with her being scrolled.

So that explains why Fred put a placeholder tag on me since I was scum reading Noraa and then I said I was leaning on passing the scroll to Fidget.

[Noraa]

That reaction makes me pretty confident Shelly is scum waiting for the PT to respond tbh

I agree with this