Death Curse

[Bell]

Is there a reason every player that could possibly be scum has told me, directly that I'm wrong.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Did you ever consider the possibility of scum possibly wanting to keep this you/Tayl0r alive because it’s a possible distraction?

many times


for example when hopkirk told me taylor/me is T/T

and when fred flipped red i saw in zdeneks iso that he said tay/me is T/T

but then taytay just posts more super scummy stuff and im back where i started.

[Gloria Cleary]

Ugh meta. Gloria says I am clear based on it. Bell says I am scum. Either one of them must be scum or meta is worthless. I'm in the meta is worthless camp. I don't see scum Gloria hard defending me when I am no use to pocket and I don't see scum Bell hard pushing at Gloria clearing me.

So of course we get back to my initial conclusion.

I admit that the Vault meta thing is definitely a lot weaker than my Noraa metadive, which was pretty glaringly obvious. It’s of course definitely possible that he just wasn’t feeling the game but based on those games I ISO’d, I’m a little less confident on you than I was but I like this post anyway.

One thing I don’t understand is why Bell was doubting Adorable because Fidget is sounding increasingly scummier, so I don’t see how my Fred scroll theory is wrong. Obviously if she flipped town I’d have to re-evaluate but my read on that slot has only increased in confidence and of course Fidget!scum likely means I’m not wrong.

So I don’t see Fidget and Adorable as buddies if I haven’t made that clear. It would make zero sense for scum!Adorable to claim to scroll buddy Fidget, only to have Fred switch his scroll target to LLD, so Fidget scumflip would clear Adorable, I believe.

[Gloria Cleary]

It's cool.
I can be right for the wrong reasons.
I usually am.

That's Gloria.

What am I right about for the wrong reasons?

[Titus]

It's cool.
I can be right for the wrong reasons.
I usually am.

That's Gloria.

What am I right about for the wrong reasons?

Me being town. You're using meta. That's the wrong reason.

[Bell]

Actually it's not that I disagree. It's just that to me it's a case of reaching too far. There are scenarios where I feel solid about what might have happened or what someone intended, but that just wasn't one of them.
I already mentioned that I'm cautious to an extent. That's why I do all these resets.
My reads just point to exactly Titus, Shellyc, Fred, Taylor, Flea, Fidget. containing scum.

But my comfort level with the people outside of that list that aren't in the town block aren't at the town block level because they never sufficiently proved themselves to be town.
For example if Shelly flips Red I will immediately town block Unowen.

[Titus]

@Gloria, Regarding post 6077. I don't know who you are but I don't usually see players go off on random tangents that don't talk about the issue at hand.

[Titus]

Actually it's not that I disagree. It's just that to me it's a case of reaching too far. There are scenarios where I feel solid about what might have happened or what someone intended, but that just wasn't one of them.
I already mentioned that I'm cautious to an extent. That's why I do all these resets.
My reads just point to exactly Titus, Shellyc, Fred, Taylor, Flea, Fidget. containing scum.

But my comfort level with the people outside of that list that aren't in the town block aren't at the town block level because they never sufficiently proved themselves to be town.
For example if Shelly flips Red I will immediately town block Unowen.

This is awfully sheepy. The question is sheepy town or scum. You tend to be quite sheepy.

[MURDERCAT]

How could you not be TRing Bell based off what happened with Fred?

[Gloria Cleary]

Did you ever consider the possibility of scum possibly wanting to keep this you/Tayl0r alive because it’s a possible distraction?

many times


for example when hopkirk told me taylor/me is T/T

and when fred flipped red

i saw in zdeneks iso that he said tay/me is T/T

but then taytay just posts more super scummy stuff and im back where i started.

Wrt the bolded, that is very interesting considering Fred deemed it scum theatre.

I should probably re-iso her in The Trials but in Noir she seemed really disconnected where as here she seems to be very actively engaged.

[Bell]

Yes, I am a sheep. Bleet.

Bleet.

[Gloria Cleary]

It's cool.
I can be right for the wrong reasons.
I usually am.

That's Gloria.

What am I right about for the wrong reasons?

Me being town. You're using meta. That's the wrong reason.

Why are you so insistent about that?

[shellyc]

the radio silence indicates scum IMO

1. after that post I DID NOT post anywhere else on site
2. I have work

im town

[Bell]

Cool.
Please throw it at a scum read not named unowen.

[shellyc]

HURT: Fidget

[shellyc]

also what's the UTR on Noraa now, have we all forgotten noraas manipulation and scumminess

I kind of want to throw the scroll at Noraa but if im wrong that would be disaster

[Gloria Cleary]

Actually it's not that I disagree. It's just that to me it's a case of reaching too far. There are scenarios where I feel solid about what might have happened or what someone intended, but that just wasn't one of them.
I already mentioned that I'm cautious to an extent. That's why I do all these resets.
My reads just point to exactly Titus, Shellyc, Fred, Taylor, Flea, Fidget. containing scum.

But my comfort level with the people outside of that list that aren't in the town block aren't at the town block level because they never sufficiently proved themselves to be town.
For example if Shelly flips Red I will immediately town block Unowen.

Interesting, if your solve is correct than either a Titus or a Tayl0r scumflip would resolve both slots because I can’t see them being buddies.

Yes, I don’t think Shelley/Owno is scum theatre but one thing just occurred to me. When Fred did his scum theatre pairings: Noraa/LLD, Pooky/Tayl0r, he left out Shelley/Owno which I think is interesting. Because those two have had very similar interactions to the other two yet he completely avoided discussing Shelley and Owno as a pair and Fred completely ignored Owno and unlike Shelley/Fidget they don’t seem to have those suspicious associatives.

But yeah, I think that’s probably right.

[Bell]

Throw it at Titus.
And don't do this hurt stuff.
Be brave and look cool.

[shellyc]

Throw it at Titus.
And don't do this hurt stuff.
Be brave and look cool.

can we be reminded on why Titus is scum

[Bell]

Have you checked your scum PT.

[Gloria Cleary]

also what's the UTR on Noraa now, have we all forgotten noraas manipulation and scumminess

I kind of want to throw the scroll at Noraa but if im wrong that would be disaster

How are you not wrong on Noraa? and I approve your scroll choice.

[Bell]

*waves hand fancifully* sorry sorry, if you're town I'm being an ass.

She's super mindful of VCA and she hopped on Unowen for what I would call a terrible reason without digging in further.
It was another attempt at justification and her response to me jostling her was to try to look town in a sort of corny dim way that Titus scum tries to emulate, but Town Titus is brighter.

[Bell]

DGB calls it roller derby scum.
I call it hard-nosed Titus Scum.

[Gloria Cleary]

Why are you opposed to Fidget being scrolled, since she’s in your PoE? @Bell

[Bell]

I'm not, Titus just hit me harder with some posts that are pretty AI for her in my opinion.
I could be wrong. I usually am. *sigh*