Smoke-Filled Antechamber [Endgame]

[DrippingGoofball]

Alisae-scum would have to be psychic to no-kill on the night Pooky was going to pretend to doc-protect them.

[DrippingGoofball]

Alisae asked to be investigated, Pooky did not. He is probably not a godfather.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok but me fake-claiming doctor, then claiming alisae was protected on that night, and then getting Alisae into F3 to 1v1 with me is even more convoluted and unlikely to happen.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

that points more towards Alisae being a godfather and wanting the inno result to help win the 1v1.

If alisae is townie, alisae should be asking for me to get investigated.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yes but YOU didn't want a guilty on YOU.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am an innocent

[DrippingGoofball]

If you're town, the scum NKs you, top priority.

But you cornered yourself with this fake claim and because you are scum, and ended up surviving, the whole game state gravitated around this problem.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

dgb. look at the game please.

at the end of yesterday

Peta said I was the scum
Alisae said I was the scum
Midway said I was the scum.
You think I am the scum.

Why would scum decide to kill the person that literally every other player in the game suspects of being the scum?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I have no reason to fake-claim doctor as scum and gurantee the sane confirmed mason cop lives to endgame - it's just suicidally bad idea if I am scum.

[Alisae]

Alisae-scum would have to be psychic to no-kill on the night Pooky was going to pretend to doc-protect them.

LOL

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

DGB let's just think about this for a second.

If I'm faking a doc-protection as a fake-doc. Why would I fake-protect Alisae and clear Alisae when I can just say I protected Tammy and achieve the same goal of making a fake-doc look likely?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If you're town, the scum NKs you, top priority.

I am a doctor
Every night I walk to your house and make sure nobody can hurt you.
I am suspected by everyone.

There's no incentive for the scum godfather to kill me because I am protecting you every night and everybody suspects me anyway.

At the end of the game the scum godfather can point at me and go "hey look Pooky-doc is still alive, that's super suspicious"

and then I probably get elim'd for the scum win.

There's no priority in killing me. A doctor that is leashed to a cop is not going to prevent any nightkills anyway.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

dgb have you read Day 6 of this game?

[DrippingGoofball]

All that is complicated and unpredictable when the scum could have ND'd you and be done worrying about who you'd WIFOM protecting.

[DrippingGoofball]

dgb have you read Day 6 of this game?

I did not.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

theres no wifom. i protect the sane cop who is conf town. i do not have a choice. if i choose to not prot and the scum kill her we lose the game because i am dead on the next day

[DrippingGoofball]

The Occam's Razor explanation is that Alisaescum shot themselves at night, and you stopped it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

how is it worth the risk for me to try to outguess the scum? even if i prot peta last night we wake up in f4 and its still lylo with 4 alive and 1v1 between me and alisae. whether peta is alive now or dead makes no difference. but if the confirmed innocent cop dies - i get elimd for sure and we 100% lose. i have no incentive to try to outguess the scumnightkill

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

The Occam's Razor explanation is that Alisaescum shot themselves at night, and you stopped it.

alisae doesnt need to shoot themselves. all they have to do is submit no-kill. the game plays out the same from f6 as f5.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the only difference is the cop gets to investigate an extra time - which given the fact that alisae is a godfather makes it kind of make sense why alisae wanted the extra investigation to get eirself cleared

[DrippingGoofball]

The Occam's Razor explanation is that Alisaescum shot themselves at night, and you stopped it.

alisae doesnt need to shoot themselves. all they have to do is submit no-kill. the game plays out the same from f6 as f5.

There is no rationale for that.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

F6 and F5 are both 2 town mis-elims = mafia victory

there really is not a difference except giving Tammy an extra night to cop means Alisae gets likelier to be investigated so the GF-effect comes into play.

If it was regular-scum - then there's no chance of a No-Kill because the risk would not make any sense.

[DrippingGoofball]

Still doesn't explain the NK.

[DrippingGoofball]

I mean, no kill.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Alisae chose to no-kill