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In post 6203, Fidget wrote:I have no god damn clue what is implicating me with shelly and nothing you have said has helped me understand why.In post 6005, Gloria Cleary wrote:I think that’s kind of a reach. The Flea associatives aren’t as strong as yours. Tayl0r is still somewhat of a mystery to me. I think Titus’ theory about her and Shelley being linked I lean against. I think she actually was trying to switch it to Tayl0r.In post 5994, Fidget wrote:Why do people keep saying this? It's getting on my nerves. Next you're going to say scum!shelly implicates taylor or Flea by virtue of us being on her so long. I haven't actually found the reasoning for me being with shelly yet, but if it's anything like the Frederick-Fidget reasoning, I will probably hate it.In post 5901, Gloria Cleary wrote:Shelley scumflip definitely points to Fidget as a likely buddy.
Anyway, I see shelly's been given the scroll. What happens next, shelly? C:
AtE doesn’t really sway me much and I don’t find yours particularly convincing. I’m picking up more nervousness than outrage. Both you and Flea dismissed my theory but they seemed to be la lot less rattled, so if I’m wrong on one of you, it’s probably Flea.
I was a tad bit nervous shelly might have been town, in which case I played a big part in losing us the game, but other than that I'm gonna give you a big fat 'no' on that one. Maybe if my life were more important to my win I'd be outraged.. after all, the reasoning that Frederick hurting Adorable implicates me boggles my mind a little.Again.In post 6007, Gloria Cleary wrote:What do you mean wrt the Fred scrolls? How did he not intend to give it to Adorable? He placed a HURT tag on her and AFTER that she switched her scroll target from Noraa to you and then Fred switched it from Adorable to LLD. So, tell me then, what is your theory on why Fred switched his scroll target from Adorable to LLD?
Why. The. Fuck. Does. Fred. Give. The. Scroll. To. Adorable?
That is GAME LOSING. Notice how shelly here seems to have resigned to giving it to Mush. Our townbloc is massive. Adorable is not in that bloc. It also was fairly obvious that in a Fred/Fidget scumteam, Adorable has at least a 50% chance of giving it to me. Why would Fred EVER intend to give the scroll to Adorable?
You are buying that he was actually going to give it to her. WHY?
It is so clear to me that he was still putting on the act that he is a townie at that point. What would you do as scum? Vote someone and leave immediately? Maybe. He chose not to do that, though. He took my case on Adorable and was all like "I have received a case on Adorable blablabla so I'm voting there", then he ghosted a while, then he naked swapped to LLD, revealing his plan was to go after a townbloc player the whole time. If I had to guess, I would say that he wanted his mates' opinions on who the towniest players were that would be best to scroll, so he kept up the townie act just for a little while so he could talk to them without being super obvious about it.
There is absolutely no reason he would actually give it to Adorable. I don't understand. If I am scum with Fred because he wanted to protect me from Adorbs, why did he fucking give it to her in the first place? Why would he continue to target a "scummy" player rather than a "towny" one? Probably because he still wanted to do the townie dance for a little while longer.
Am I losing my fucking mind or am I correct is there no incentive for scum to actually shoot outside our massive townbloc, in which case he was never really going to scroll Adorbs, in which case I am completely irrelevant?
It is at this point I actually read your post and will now respond to the point you're making. I understand the idea of
Fred: "Imma kill Adorable"
Adorable: "Yeah soooo I prefer Fidget over Noraa now is that cool"
Fred: "Nope nope nope swiiiiitch"
But I see no merit in it because he was never actually going to scroll Adorable. And if that is true, it does not really matter who Adorable is targeting or what her reads were. Unless there is an actual reason to believe Fred was seriously going to give it her, then who cares? I get that this is probably obvious to me, who knows my alignment and therefore the theory just doesn't make sense at all, so I'm probably being unfair.
Maybe there is a world where scum!Fred for some reason wants to keep pretending to be town, even if it means risking me getting shot (Adorable did not just suspect Noraa, mind you..). But if that world exists, then that also means Fred was willing to risk me being shot at first, but when the risk increased, he pussied out for some reason and swapped it off Adorbs. It (obviously to me) makes way less sense than he simply was never going to scroll there. It tricked me into thinking he was town up until he swapped. And then he swapped to someone who actually made sense for scum to kill, aka the towniest player who probably wasn't going to kill shelly which is a trait that was common to just about every other towny player.
You are dancing around this and completely misrepping my case.
My case is not: he was planning to give the scroll to Adorable AFTER she switched her scroll target from Noraa to you. You contining to misrepresent what I’m saying is extremely telling.
What I actually did say, is he was planning to give it to Adorable BEFORE she switched her scroll target from Noraa to you because obviously Fred is fine with Noraa dying.
But once she got the scroll, she then decided to switch it you and it was then and ONLY then did he switch his scroll target from Adorable to LDD.
Whoever gets the scroll, please shoot this. Please and thank you.
