Death Curse

[MURDERCAT]

Like I said: they might as well leave it exactly where it is, because the longer I live, the less chance there is they win.

You could have just asked nicely for the scroll like I did

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Yeah, but then they realize I'm up to something and take it away from me before I get the energy to start directing the game board and calling the shots. This way was much more effective, and now that I have my energy the direction the scroll goes is immaterial. I can close in on a solve as soon as the scroll leaves scum hands, no matter who it goes to. I mean, I guess unless it's another scum slot.

In which case, well, cool. Going S->S->T shouldn't be possible, but I'll take it.

[Noraa]

No all the switches is making me paranoid because recently Mush asked a bunch of people for certain reads and im worrying that all that info mush gave is the reason scum wanted to scroll her or they wanted to make it seem like what she said is right. IDK *throws up my hands*

I took all of this into account. I specifically asked for gutreads from most of you that don't need to match your actual reads. Free association level reads that could be influenced by stuff like "their avatar bothers me". Titus picked up on that. (BTW: If you thought about your reads, Noraa, you need to Try Again. Right now.) That's good info for ME, put to the purpose I'm USING it for. Can scum see what I'm doing? If they can, they recognize that they may as well hit me now to keep me from taking this energy into the next few days. If they can't, they may as well hit me now because they don't know what's going on anyway.

So, what's that leave us? Can scum make decisions based on the info I grabbed?

Unlikely, because I'm not open with who my reads are right now.

Let me remind you I asked at least one scumread of mine who isn't Titus for opinions on slots that I partially townread. Is it Bell? Bell got a different list, after all. Is it MURDERCAT? MURDERCAT had to be given special concessions to get answers from them. Maybe Titus isn't a scumread, but I did single them out, so I mean, maybe, right -- but that'd still leave one other, so what good does that do you? Gloria? I gave her some strife earlier in the dayphase. Noraa? Maybe my wanting her to catch this scroll was covering up a scumread.

And fuck it, how about those partial townreads? Can /you/ guess who of the 6 people I asked for opinions on was my secret townread all along? Or maybe it's two. Or maybe it's three. Or maybe it's all of them and I have some galaxy brain take on the scum ALL lying in the townbloc.

Or maybe I'm just lying about all of it. In whole or in part, who knows.

The point being that town can do WIFOM just as well as scum can under the right circumstances, and I know some amount of what I'm doing. I'm good at manipulation, and if I wanted this to affect the scumteam I'd have the exact outcome I wanted. Unfortunately for them, now that they have gotten my attention, there is no hope and there is no escape. They can do whatever they want with this scroll and I will still ensure we hit red on round 3. Like I said: they might as well leave it exactly where it is, because the longer I live, the less chance there is they win.

If you're talking about my Fidget read, I dont think that is ever changing. Sure, my reasoning is bad(since I did wrongly TR Fred for the same reason yesterday) but the vibe is on point. I think Fidget is town. Fidget/Shelly doesn't even have strong partner equity. Everyone keeps saying red shelly = red fidget but like WTF. Shelly was confirmed red a while ago. Making this connection after she is confirmed red is just bull.

You're right. Thats a lot of WIFOM and you've successfully fried my brain.

[Noraa]

{MUSH, Bell, MC, Noraa}

This town blocks a bit small if you ask me. I'd throw Taylor, Fidget, and Pooky in. Maybe one of DGB/Titus as that whole thing of DGBvTitus didnt strike me as scum theatre.

[MURDERCAT]

You can't have a town block that big, all the members of the town block need to hard town read all the other members

[Noraa]

You can't have a town block that big, all the members of the town block need to hard town read all the other members

that's how town blocks work? okie welp I've gotten the definition wrong all along then.

[MURDERCAT]

A town block is different from a town read

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Murdercatto trying to destroy our beautiful townblock

[Noraa]

I think we can safely add pooky in. All of us TR him anyways.

[Noraa]

Murdercatto trying to destroy our beautiful townblock

?

[MURDERCAT]

I think we can safely add pooky in. All of us TR him anyways.

I've actually been scum reading him most of the game

[Noraa]

I think we can safely add pooky in. All of us TR him anyways.

I've actually been scum reading him most of the game

even now?

[MURDERCAT]

I explicitly avoided giving a read on Pooky earlier I'll be keeping it that way for now

[Noraa]

I explicitly avoided giving a read on Pooky earlier I'll be keeping it that way for now

Right. Can shelly hurry up and pass so I can do my reads?

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Tip for townies who are impatient and/or worried their reads will change if Shelly drags heels:

Write out a post, don't send it, save it off to the side instead. When the time comes, post it without ANY editing or commentary, and then and /only/ then begin to revisit it. I like to make sure to be absolutely adamant the first time someone questions such a post to make sure I'm confident enough in it that I'm building off of it rather than off of the crap I dreamt up while I was waiting. YMMV, however.

[Noraa]

Does lazyass Noraa have to do that too

[Gloria Cleary]

I'm headed to sleep. I sure hope scum makes this mistake, because lord knows they're going 1-for-2 this dayphase, easily.

Titus, I want your immediate no-brains-involved gut reactions on the following slots:
Flea
Pooky
Adorable
Fidget

Gloria, MURDERCAT, Noraa, I want your reactions on them too -- BUT, only after Titus has posted.

Bell, I want specifically your thoughts on Adorable, Tayl0r, DGF. Give it as much or as little thought as you have to offer at the time: I trust your brain to reach good conclusions, I trust the others' guts to reach good conclusions.

I'm going to do what I do regardless, and I don't give a fuck what anyone I didn't ask has to say on the matter of those slots.

I'll tell you now that I adjusted my requests to take scum having the scroll into account. Scum has already fucked up by putting me in the right frame of mind, moving the scroll won't help them now. I am also denying them information (there's townreads in there and a scumread in one of the people I'm asking for opinions on, and I'm smart enough to have made it not or in addition to Titus), and sorting more slots than I'm asking about (and again, I'm not talking about (just?) Titus). MURDER, answer the question. Like it if Bell could too.

If it’s me Mush you’re dead wrong.

[Gloria Cleary]

You are dancing around this and completely misrepping my case.

My case is not: he was planning to give the scroll to Adorable AFTER she switched her scroll target from Noraa to you. You contining to misrepresent what I’m saying is extremely telling.

What I actually did say, is he was planning to give it to Adorable BEFORE she switched her scroll target from Noraa to you because obviously Fred is fine with Noraa dying.

No. He did NOT and NEVER planned to give it to Adorable. Not even BEFORE. That is very clearly what I am saying. He never intended at any point to actually give it to her. That is why your case is false.

If you can't see the point I'm making, I don't want to talk about it anymore.

What makes you so sure about that? You’re assuming that’s the case and yes obviously I’m assuming the converse but I don’t know how you can be this adamantly sure?

[Tayl0r Swift]

{MUSH, Bell, MC, Noraa}

This town blocks a bit small if you ask me. I'd throw Taylor, Fidget, and Pooky in. Maybe one of DGB/Titus as that whole thing of DGBvTitus didnt strike me as scum theatre.

oh jeez noraa, really?

[Tayl0r Swift]

I think we can safely add pooky in. All of us TR him anyways.

...

[Noraa]

taytay be salty like the ocean today <.<

[Gloria Cleary]

Scroll: MUSH

There is no real ending. It's just the place where you stop the story.

Want to point out that I also called that we'd find scum in the townblocs. Look at that, Gloria was in my townbloc.

I feel like I go down today, and that makes me smile.

Back to work!

Can this totally be a coincidence?

*doubt*

[Gloria Cleary]

Scroll: MUSH

There is no real ending. It's just the place where you stop the story.

Want to point out that I also called that we'd find scum in the townblocs. Look at that, Gloria was in my townbloc.

I feel like I go down today, and that makes me smile.

Back to work!

Can this totally be a coincidence?

*doubt*

It’s clearly not or else Shelley would have used a HURT tag.

[MURDERCAT]

Can this totally be a coincidence?

I'm missing your point

[Noraa]

Can this totally be a coincidence?

I'm missing your point

Gloria's trying to say shelly passes to Mush because Mush seems to have slight suspicions on her. So shes saying Shelly is trying to go shelly -> Mush -> Gloria