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[Tayl0r Swift]

fuck i need a VC cuz i have no idea what wagons are viable. this energy is really good though. associative tells ought to make this game super easy, especially with no daytalk.

[Marky Mark]

At a mechanical level, can DK confirm you're a FN rather than just that she received a message from you, which could (for sake of argument) be from mailman of either alignment?

Don't get me wrong I'm not SRing you here but just want to understand the situation.

I suspect JV may be a prisoner of timezones somewhat in terms of his posting frequency as he doesn't usually seem to be on at the same time as the action is going down

Andres was like a super solid TR for me until this IRL day, but the push (specifically the fact he was pushing him and not the fact he was SRing him) on Infinity, in particular, looked bad IMO

[Andresvmb]

I’m a Friendly Neighbor, and Dkkoba obviously got my message last night.

Fade on my wagon right now.

Wait so you see me defend Koba, lock him as Town, and you conclude I’m Scum?! How bad are you?

This is a panic statement, and it doesn’t even make sense.

What does Koba have to do with any of it besides I targeted them?

You role copped me, didn’t you?

You’re a Friendly Neighbor. So you know Koba is Town, and they know you’re Town. Koba has me as Town, and I’m strongly TR’ing back. And yet your conclusion because I wouldn’t immediately vote the person you were SR’ing is that I’m Scum? Yeah I might be wrong about Infinity and perhaps they just reacted suboptimally. But I don’t understand what you’re trying to achieve here.

[VP Baltar]

VOTE: taylor

This hasn't changed as the right play despite the drama.

[Andresvmb]

Andres or DGB goes down today. I’d prefer Andres because it feels like DGB is more likely to go down.

If we lose btw, it’s on you. Because you wouldn’t get your head out of your ass.

[Flavor Leaf]

A Regular Friendly Neighbor doesn’t know their target is town, you role copped me and are TMI’ing right now.

[Flavor Leaf]

At a mechanical level, can DK confirm you're a FN rather than just that she received a message from you, which could (for sake of argument) be from mailman of either alignment?

Don't get me wrong I'm not SRing you here but just want to understand the situation.

I suspect JV may be a prisoner of timezones somewhat in terms of his posting frequency as he doesn't usually seem to be on at the same time as the action is going down

Andres was like a super solid TR for me until this IRL day, but the push (specifically the fact he was pushing him and not the fact he was SRing him) on Infinity, in particular, looked bad IMO

They didn’t receive it from me. They received a message from the mod stating it.

I can tell they got it from the way they talked about me today.

[Andresvmb]

A Regular Friendly Neighbor doesn’t know their target is town, you role copped me and are TMI’ing right now.

I misread the wiki. I thought you would figure out that they are Town too, not just that Koba would find out that you’re Town.

[Flavor Leaf]

You slipped because you thought Dkk was town too.

[Flavor Leaf]

You TMI’d Dkkoba was town.

[Tayl0r Swift]

A Regular Friendly Neighbor doesn’t know their target is town, you role copped me and are TMI’ing right now.

well you did kinda slip it with how you claimed. i wasnt gonna mention it, but yeah you clearly have a modifier.

[Tayl0r Swift]

like im just saying i also knew koba was town from how you claimed.

[Marky Mark]

Andres or DGB goes down today. I’d prefer Andres because it feels like DGB is more likely to go down.

Are we playing the same game? I've been highlighting why DGB feels scummy from me since D1 and struggling to get people to see things from my POV

Like I get the confbias thing and it is definitely possible to tunnel/confbias in this game, but I feel like its way too easy for a slot like that to sneak through in the background if not treated somewhat dogmatically

--pedit: cool, that makes sense. If infinity and I can coordinate actions for tonight ahead of time, we ought to have a decent pool of cleared players (FL, Infinity [assuming he isn't lying]) and at least one likelytown player (DK)

[Flavor Leaf]

A Regular Friendly Neighbor doesn’t know their target is town, you role copped me and are TMI’ing right now.

well you did kinda slip it with how you claimed. i wasnt gonna mention it, but yeah you clearly have a modifier.

Look at Andres retraction. That’s not what he’s implying. He legit slipped.

[Marky Mark]

VOTE: taylor

This hasn't changed as the right play despite the drama.

I disagree, but at any rate, I think we benefit here from having some time to revaluate things in light of the new alignment info

[Tayl0r Swift]

flavor: its possible that andres is scum. at this point i really dunno. but i just dont think your arguments are the reason why anyone should think andres is scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

He tried acting like he misunderstood the Friendly Neighbor role.

That is him slipping TMI on Dkk.

[Flavor Leaf]

flavor: its possible that andres is scum. at this point i really dunno. but i just dont think your arguments are the reason why anyone should think andres is scum.

Then you’re scum too.

This last one legitimately confirms him as scum.

You said you saw it, but he didn’t, he was claiming elsewise because of misinterpret of friendly neighbor, but that was a cover up because he knew DKK was town already by way of Andres being scum

[VP Baltar]

VOTE: taylor

This hasn't changed as the right play despite the drama.

I disagree, but at any rate, I think we benefit here from having some time to revaluate things in light of the new alignment info

You mean FL being town? I already said as much. That doesn't change Taylor scum here.

Take all the time you need I guess

[Andresvmb]

He tried acting like he misunderstood the Friendly Neighbor role.

That is him slipping TMI on Dkk.

I took a quick look at the wiki to see what your Role did. I understood what I understood in context of what you said.

Look you’re not going to give up on pushing me as Scum. That much is clear. So when the game is over, we can talk.

[Flavor Leaf]

That doesn’t change you being scum. You’re trying to act like you’re town here all casually, which works because it looks like I’m tunneled onto you, but that’s because I physically know you’re scum. Your slip proved it

[Andresvmb]

And I knew Koba was Town because of how they’ve played. I made a large case defending them D1 under pressure. You’re giving me no credit for not being an idiot. But you do you.

[Flavor Leaf]

Sure, but you can’t know know like the TMI you did. You’re just covering all your bases here

[Andresvmb]

That doesn’t change you being scum. You’re trying to act like you’re town here all casually, which works because it looks like I’m tunneled onto you, but that’s because I physically know you’re scum. Your slip proved it

You sound like me in a different game arguing that a slip made someone Scum. I haven’t slipped, since I’m not Scum. You are going to look foolish for not re-evaluating. What you do is up to you.

[Flavor Leaf]

That doesn’t change you being scum. You’re trying to act like you’re town here all casually, which works because it looks like I’m tunneled onto you, but that’s because I physically know you’re scum. Your slip proved it

You sound like me in a different game arguing that a slip made someone Scum. I haven’t slipped, since I’m not Scum. You are going to look foolish for not re-evaluating. What you do is up to you.

Jokes on you, I always play the fool.