Death Curse

[Gloria Cleary]

Yes? Not sure why you bolded that Gloria?

Because you’re pushing Tayl0r who I think is town.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I have a solve already. But I wouldn't be a terrible tyrant if I didn't make anyone dance, and I want to have a backup.

Titus: scumcase Gloria. I wanted Fidget to, but Fidget isn't complying. This has very little to do with any of the three involved and much more to do with me being a merciless monster. It also helps me narrow down my 4th choice, which isn't Titus, Gloria or Fidget: ask anyone who's played with me how I press on one slot to sort another. They may or may not be in the first three: consider the suspense here.

[Gloria Cleary]

@Titus, some reason you have Tayl0r before your lock scumread DGB? Why isn’t she first?

Yeah this is useful intel that Titus/Goofball are together if Titus comes up scum

I no longer tr Titus. Her Tayl0r push is extremely scummy.

[Gloria Cleary]

Town:
Bell
Taylor
MURDERCAT
Gloria ??
Fidget ????
Noraa ????
Pooky ????
Flea ??????

Scum:
DGB
Adorable
Titus

Preference is DGB. The solve is probably not those three, so I'd guess there is scum in my town group. I am not ambitious enough to attempt to figure out who I am misreading there without first sorting out the scum group.

Adorable is in there still because shelly going to the defense of Adorable with "Noraa/Adorable is not s/s" (which I remember her repeating a few times) is a pretty scummy way to defend someone while leaving plenty of room to back out if necessary. I also may be falling for the WIFOM of Fred's fake out, but it just seemed like the kind of thing designed to push a scum buddy into the green zone. I had a slight town lean on her way back because the "A -> B" logic of her posts read as earnest and sincere, but she has a bit of experience behind her and I don't think that is too high a bar for her to fake.

Seems like I'm getting scum read here because shelly town read me earlier and that's not how scum hunting works. After a player flips scum, to catch the next scum is to see what the living players would do next if one of them is going for a new agenda. Mafia's goal is to eliminate town and mafia will also try to make fake association with town to try to make it look like they are scum buddies with a town player when they are not and once when one of the scum players gets eliminated, they will try to take down a town player with them by making sure the town player gets eliminated next.

I think it’s Titus/DGB not sure on you. You’re in there because of PoE.

What are your current reads?

[Gloria Cleary]

Spoiler:

Who do you think MUSH will shoot Titus? Who should she shoot?

She should shoot within my solve (minus the deep wolf theory as that is vague) but that's a little simplistic. I don't have a strong preference, but

gtmh Taylor because she's the deepest.

As for who she will shoot, I'm uncertain. I halfway expect it to be me, which is why I am doing what I can with the limited reading I have done.

What is your current solve Titus?

Why did you think uno was more likely scum than shelly and why isn't it that you wanted to test the waters with uno and, when it seemed like it wasn't working, switched to bussing shelly?

My current solve is Taylor/DGB/Adorable/Plus one infecting the townblock could easily be Uno.

I expect some S v S somewhere.

I didn't have a strong preference for Uno, so it wasn't worth fighting. Either way, we get at least one scum. If I had a strong shelly TR, I fight it. I didn't though.

Owno is mindmelding with me on Flea/Fidget now, plus Shelley kept trying to kill him. Shelley jumped off Fred wagon several times and tried to push Tayl0r. I believe that was a serious push.

@Titus, some reason you have Tayl0r before your lock scumread DGB? Why isn’t she first?

Both of them are lockscum. This is exactly like The trials. They selectively ignore points on their buddies to go after town while keeping their hands clean. Taylor with Pooky and DGB with me. They like LHF but didn't expect Pooky to obvtown.

6666 explains a lot. She’s hoping to get Tayl0r scrolled over her and hard distancing from DGB. She first calls Tayl0r a deep wolf who her gthh tells her it’s Tayl0r but in 6668, Tayl0r is suddenly “lockscum”.

This reads like scum!Titus panicking.

[Titus]

Titus: scumcase Gloria.

No. Gloria isn't scum.

[Titus]

Spoiler:

Who do you think MUSH will shoot Titus? Who should she shoot?

She should shoot within my solve (minus the deep wolf theory as that is vague) but that's a little simplistic. I don't have a strong preference, but

gtmh Taylor because she's the deepest.

As for who she will shoot, I'm uncertain. I halfway expect it to be me, which is why I am doing what I can with the limited reading I have done.

What is your current solve Titus?

Why did you think uno was more likely scum than shelly and why isn't it that you wanted to test the waters with uno and, when it seemed like it wasn't working, switched to bussing shelly?

My current solve is Taylor/DGB/Adorable/Plus one infecting the townblock could easily be Uno.

I expect some S v S somewhere.

I didn't have a strong preference for Uno, so it wasn't worth fighting. Either way, we get at least one scum. If I had a strong shelly TR, I fight it. I didn't though.

Owno is mindmelding with me on Flea/Fidget now, plus Shelley kept trying to kill him. Shelley jumped off Fred wagon several times and tried to push Tayl0r. I believe that was a serious push.

@Titus, some reason you have Tayl0r before your lock scumread DGB? Why isn’t she first?

Both of them are lockscum. This is exactly like The trials. They selectively ignore points on their buddies to go after town while keeping their hands clean. Taylor with Pooky and DGB with me. They like LHF but didn't expect Pooky to obvtown.

6666 explains a lot. She’s hoping to get Tayl0r scrolled over her and hard distancing from DGB. She first calls Tayl0r a deep wolf who her gthh tells her it’s Tayl0r but in 6668, Tayl0r is suddenly “lockscum”.

This reads like scum!Titus panicking.

Taylor is lockscum and a deepwolf. Just like she was in trials. If pushing on lockscum gets me a scumread, so be it. I don't care. I've been onto Taylor for ages. I just haven't been around to push it, so she's obvtown.

[Noraa]

I think I can confidently say Titus is scum at this point in time.

[Gloria Cleary]

Spoiler:

Who do you think MUSH will shoot Titus? Who should she shoot?

She should shoot within my solve (minus the deep wolf theory as that is vague) but that's a little simplistic. I don't have a strong preference, but

gtmh Taylor because she's the deepest.

As for who she will shoot, I'm uncertain. I halfway expect it to be me, which is why I am doing what I can with the limited reading I have done.

What is your current solve Titus?

Why did you think uno was more likely scum than shelly and why isn't it that you wanted to test the waters with uno and, when it seemed like it wasn't working, switched to bussing shelly?

My current solve is Taylor/DGB/Adorable/Plus one infecting the townblock could easily be Uno.

I expect some S v S somewhere.

I didn't have a strong preference for Uno, so it wasn't worth fighting. Either way, we get at least one scum. If I had a strong shelly TR, I fight it. I didn't though.

Owno is mindmelding with me on Flea/Fidget now, plus Shelley kept trying to kill him. Shelley jumped off Fred wagon several times and tried to push Tayl0r. I believe that was a serious push.

@Titus, some reason you have Tayl0r before your lock scumread DGB? Why isn’t she first?

Both of them are lockscum. This is exactly like The trials. They selectively ignore points on their buddies to go after town while keeping their hands clean. Taylor with Pooky and DGB with me. They like LHF but didn't expect Pooky to obvtown.

6666 explains a lot. She’s hoping to get Tayl0r scrolled over her and hard distancing from DGB. She first calls Tayl0r a deep wolf who her gthh tells her it’s Tayl0r but in 6668, Tayl0r is suddenly “lockscum”.

This reads like scum!Titus panicking.

Taylor is lockscum and a deepwolf. Just like she was in trials. If pushing on lockscum gets me a scumread, so be it. I don't care. I've been onto Taylor for ages. I just haven't been around to push it, so she's obvtown.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=84335&user_select%5B%5D=34760

I think she seems different here. She’s acting in that game like Shelley did in this one. She really hasn’t been hardpushing any town wagons like she did in that game, so I’m not seeing it.

[MURDERCAT]

I think I can confidently say Titus is scum at this point in time.

And if Titus is scum that makes me...? (let me know if you need a hint)

[Noraa]

I think I can confidently say Titus is scum at this point in time.

And if Titus is scum that makes me...? (let me know if you need a hint)

does it really make you conftown tho?

[Gloria Cleary]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=34760

That link got messed up.

[MURDERCAT]

does it really make you conftown tho?

Helping to kill a second scum? How many do you want me to kill?

[Noraa]

does it really make you conftown tho?

Helping to kill a second scum? How many do you want me to kill?

I helped kill Fred and Shelly. I am the most conftown person in this game and yet pooky's over there like pffft idc doesn't count cuz I said so.
+ why do you even care if I TR you anyway O_o

[MURDERCAT]

I'm just giving you a hard time

[Noraa]

shoo shoo. let me eat my conftown ice cream in peace

[Fidget]

I

think

know

I can confidently say Titus is scum at this point in time.

[Gloria Cleary]

hmmmmmm

ok mush is town
mush LLD taylor pooky are locktown

Shelley had the same progression on Tayl0r as Titus did. Interesting.

[Gloria Cleary]

Shelly pls yeet Noraa

DrippingGoofball-any SRs except Titus?

***** YOU *****

I scumread YOU

Scum are pushing on Noraa hoping to rattle her and make us doubt her.

[Gloria Cleary]

Throw it at Titus.
And don't do this hurt stuff.
Be brave and look cool.

can we be reminded on why Titus is scum

Ding, ding!

[Gloria Cleary]

Interactions today. Not defensive, seems genuine, still unsure of me (not trying to buddy up or anything) Seemsgood.

what parts are genuine in fidget?
didn't you just say being "unsure" is a scumtell on the last page?

Okay, Shelley was trying to get Fidget scrolled.

[Bell]

This may very well be the first time I used meta well.
Naturally, this means the next on my list (titus) must be wrong.

[Bell]

Haha, I'm lying. My meta is always pretty okay because I don't try to make huge assumptions with it.

[Gloria Cleary]

Seems like I'm dying. I wouldnt be surprised if that was the hammer, and I'll kindly ask everyone to provide scroll preferences probably -> we HAVE to hit scum and I don't have 100% trust in my reads given scum just got another easy miselim.

As requested: (ordered btw)
TOWN-ZONE
shellyc
MUSHSHAGANA
MURDERCAT
Bell
PookyTheMagicalBear
Gloria Cleary

Titus

NULL-ZONE

Dripping Goofball
Adorable

4 scum in:
Tayl0r Swift
UNOwen
Flea The Magician
Noraa
Fidget

This readslist doesn’t look great for Adorable. Her townlist is very likely alltown except for Titus and so probably is her scumlist, so this list seems to back up Owno solve.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I helped kill Fred and Shelly. I am the most conftown person in this game and yet pooky's over there like pffft idc doesn't count cuz I said so.
+ why do you even care if I TR you anyway O_o