Musician Mafia: Guitarists GAME OVER

[pisskop]

So i got a loud visitor last night.

any claimers?

[Lavender]

Ohhh you were the one talkings about Drew okie
Could this be Bambi's ability again?
But two abilities that work the same?

[TiphaineDeath]

Everytime I think about voting dave I go back to votecount 1.05. And while I guess it is possible that three scum immediately jumped on NPOM together and I am wifoming myself out of an obvious target here, it just honestly doesn't seem likely to me, so I'ma keep my eye on him, but bench dave from the kill-list for now.

Bambi, Lav, Gamma, A50

Votecount 1.07 is the peak of the galron counter-wagon that got ran up counter to iks. It was shifty as fuck and I think it's very likely there's a scum on it. If I am going to ignore dave, then that scum has to be A50. But if one or both of A50/Dave isn't scum based on that wagon I will be VERY surprised.

Bambi, Lave, Gamma (A50 scumpile?)

Gamma's voting record on IKS is weird, but not necessarily damning, he's on it early-mid wagon, jumps off to vote pisskop(Who I am calling locktown for how hard they've been after Drew all game), and then jumps back on at the end as the kill happens. +1 scum point, but not scumpiled yet.

Votecount 2.03 is interesting as it shows the beginning of a re-attempt to murder NPOM with Iecerint, PookyTheMagicalBear, Gamma Emerald, Starbuck. I don't think it's unreasonable for a second scum to be here with icerint, and if they are it's Gamma or pooky. Not awarding any points here, but gotta keep looking at those two.

Man, I'm trying but I am really not good at this VCA stuff, someone ressurect Titus Q_Q.

Votecount 3.05 catches my interest again as the DGB wagon forms. It's got icerint and Doctor Drew on it out of 6 people. Again, given how great getting DGB lynched would be at that moment for scumteam, I don't think it's impossible there's a third scum here, and if there is it's A50.

Given that, the Grendel counterwagon that springs up on votecount 3.06 almost HAS to be town-pushed, possibly with 0 scum on it at all, which makes me want to give Bambi, Pooky, and Dave +1 Town point.

As the icerint wagon of the day starts at votecount 3.07, gamma is there for that. If there were such a high concentration of scum on DGB, then Gamma might not want to be on DGB themselves, but defecting to a wagon on their scumbuddy that their target is pushing seems like bad play. Though by then the DGB wagon HAS fallen appart, so maybe it's just looking for shelter in a storm?

3.08 shows Drew has decided to buss icerint, and gamma is still hanging out there with 7 votes on it. In fact, as I take a break from VCA to go back and look at gamma's posting, gamma is pushing the icerint wagon along the whole way. They jump off for a moment to go after rude, but then jump back on very quickly. I think +2 townpoints for gamma here. If this was a bus it was a VERY well done bus. This is also the point where Pooky shows up and helps lynch icerint as well (not really on my list at the moment and that's kind of why +1 town point for him on the periphery.)

Chkflip gets TURBO lynched, and that is very surprising to me. Scumpoints for the back-end of this wagon. (Dave, Pooky, Lav, Pisskop) I'm still inclined to have pisskop as hardcleared though, and pooky is troll enough I maybe shouldn't even be giving him scum points for this. Dave/Lav +1 scum point. Also, first time anything read-worthy occurs with Lave at all. I hate lurkers :/.

Galron gets TURBO lynched, which he deserved, but is still a problem. Drew is on this one, so that's one scum, but lav and pooky are as well, and since he deserved this it's easy cover for scum to pile on. Again, I hate lav more than pooky here. +1 scum point to lav again.

If I think there is only one scum on the rude wagon then it is Drew, and that's easy. If I think there are two, the second one has to be A50 or Gamma, and gamma is looking really good right now. +1 scum point for A50.

Bambi, Lav, Gamma, A50

Out of these 4 I am inclined to think the last two scum are lavendar and A50, and I am more inclined to vote the person who has been under my radar the whole game but still managing to (my subconscious tells me) sound reasonable and vaguely townlike, than I am to vote the lurker.

VOTE: A50

[TiphaineDeath]

Also if I am wrong about either of those Bambi goes on top of the list because I just realized ABSOLUTELY NOTHING stood out to me about their voting patterns and they post like scum xD.

[davesaz]

Man, I'm trying but I am really not good at this VCA stuff, someone ressurect Titus Q_Q.

There is enough data now to make it useful. I'll dive in as soon as there is enough time. Depends mostly on whether my wife has any surprise tasks for me today.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I can probably do an effective VCA if I stick to principles developed in my last attempt

[Lavender]

My votes are ultra-super bad ahah~
I don't think any of my reads hit right either (T-T)
My absymalness has once again granted me a scum read

Should we still ask people who haven't favor claimed to favor claim?
Or did everyone go to Flavor Town already?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Hmm, Lav is a scum read? And really why Rude so high?

Here is mine, if we are posting reads list:

Lav
Pooky
Grendel
NPOM
Gamma
PK
Bambi(Definite 3p vibes though)
A50
Dave
TD
Rude

clearly A50 is scum from this readslist

[davesaz]

My votes are ultra-super bad ahah~

Nobody would ever think this suspicious right after 3 people say they want to do VCA right?

[TiphaineDeath]

Yeah, definitely also down to kill Lav today, but I'd like to hear other people's analysis.

Also @Pook, I literally cannot tell if anything you are writing is sarcasm or not anymore xD.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: A50

[TiphaineDeath]

Holdup one fucking minute, everyone look real close at that Role-PM Flip by Drew. First person to tell me why it's different from the other Mafia-flips we've seen and who we should be REAL suspicious of as a result gets a cookie.

[Gamma Emerald]

Whatever the deal is with DDrew has to do with alive people exclusively from my quick check-up
Also I notice something else, this time with NPOM’s role in the dead list in the OP

[Grendel]

who called drew!scum?

pk did

I did as well

Holdup one fucking minute, everyone look real close at that Role-PM Flip by Drew. First person to tell me why it's different from the other Mafia-flips we've seen and who we should be REAL suspicious of as a result gets a cookie.

I dont think i saw what you were talking about. Only line i saw that looked different from other scum role pms was that line about his "loyalty to his team is impenetrable". WHat did you see Tipain.

What i did notice looking over his, and IKS's role pms is that scum cant preform their personal abilities, and the factional kill, on same night. Which is really useful info for late game solving.

-/-/-/--

Was Pisskop mech cleared somewhere and i missed it?

I saw a few players hard clearing him, and while i think he is town I was going off of play alone.

[Almost50]

Guys, you can kill me. I am 3P and the way Scum have been shooting I am never going to win anyway.

I am an "Otistic Dreamer", and my wincon is to simply get NK'd. Nights 4 through 8 I can "wander" (visit someone) at night, and if they are killed I get killed too. I ALSO get killed if directly targeted by a kill on the same night. I have been trying to outguess the scum NK by visiting claimed TPRs (I can't visit the same target twice).

N4 Bambi
N5 Galron
N6 pisskop

Now imagine how I feel when I find Scum opted to shoot VANILLA on 2 of those nights and Bambi appears to have prevented a kill on the third.

I obviously ALSO had a chance of being shot by TOWN, but the shots went to Drew and DGB (and by day on that one too).

Conclusion: Some claimed PRs are NOT Town (or Scum are totally out of their minds)

[Grendel]

I dont really feel up to doing one myself atm, but i look forward to seeing VCA from those thinking about pursuing it.

I like the effort Tipain has put in so far, and I hope he keeps it up.

-/-/-/-

Pre-edit

how many 3rd parties have shown up in prevous Baker games? or in themes in general?

[Almost50]

My flavor contains a line that says "This is a mixture of selfishness and nepotism. I also am a member of Transfiguration, and Cameron has been my best friend for many years.", which sounded weird, but when I asked it turned out it was ME talking about ME!

[Almost50]

I don't remember. I think there were 3 in the game before last and one in the previous one.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Holdup one fucking minute, everyone look real close at that Role-PM Flip by Drew. First person to tell me why it's different from the other Mafia-flips we've seen and who we should be REAL suspicious of as a result gets a cookie.

"Your loyalty to your team is impenetrable."

He is the only mafia member I can't recruit into my Death Army.

[Almost50]

@Pooky: Why do you think Scum are avoiding hitting the claimed PRs?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

they don't want me to recruit any1 good into my undead army

[Grendel]

I don't remember. I think there were 3 in the game before last and one in the previous one.

Thanks

-/-/-/-

Yeah A50, a lot of the night kills have been super weird this game tbh.

I might have some useful information about last night, but I think i should wait until later to talk about it.

[TiphaineDeath]

Pook, I get that you're a cult-leader, and I get that no one else is going to believe me, do you have to be so goddamn cheeky about it?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

TDeath I will recruit you last don't bother resisting

[TiphaineDeath]

You had one recruit shot, and you used it, and two of those people are left alive, and I think we probably have to shoot one of them or you today :/.