Musician Mafia: Guitarists GAME OVER

pisskop · Post Post #5750 (ISO) » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:26 pm

This has been a meme with you all game too.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #5751 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:05 am

Pisskop straight scum claiming:3

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #5752 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:05 am

Happy scum day btw

TiphaineDeath · Post Post #5753 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:53 am

Yeah, I really didn't want to, but this has got to be the only viable option at this point. VOTE: pook

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #5754 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:17 am

wow I am shocked by this turn of events

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #5755 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:18 am

are you really not even going to wait for mod clarification on whether this cult is anti-town before voting me? Tdeath straight throwing rn

or he's scum :3

TiphaineDeath · Post Post #5756 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:23 am

I doubt the mod is going to clarify but if

@Baker

feels like confirming for us that the cult win-condition does not create a loss for town, I am willing and happy to hear it.

davesaz · Post Post #5757 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:02 am

NPOM's updated wincon:

In post 5690, The Baker wrote:
You win when all opposition to the town is eliminated.

You and your band win if you are alive at end game, or you take up 50% of the player list, whichever comes first.

Rather than talk about this obliquely, let's quote and dissect.
The town wincon is struck through and replaced.
The new wincon sounds like NPOM has to be alive, or the unspecified band has to be 50% of player list. NPOM and the unspecified band win if either thing happens.
If every member of the band has this wincon, then the real condition is: if any member of the band is alive at endgame, or the band is 50%, then the band wins.
I don't think members of the band are aware of whether it's themselves only or the any member interpretation. They have no way of communicating with each other.

Seems to be a cross between survivor and cult, maybe more a group survivor than what we usually think of as cult. We don't know if the band can actually recruit, and we don't know if the band winning causes the other factions to lose or if it's immaterial for the other factions. I don't think the mod can answer this, and thus he probably won't answer the pending question. He did say that wincon is basically alignment, but the answer wasn't 100%.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #5758 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:21 am

I think we should wait for mod response but I am willing to give Pooky botd

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #5759 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:51 am

if this cult is anti-town its pretty obvious I'm not in it

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #5760 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:51 am

which of course begs the question of why Tdeath and Pisskop are voting me :3

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #5761 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:52 am

like we don't even know if this is a cult to begin with

NPOM flipped vanilla shredder...

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #5762 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:54 am

The town wincon was crossed out

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #5763 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:56 am

yea but he flipped as "Vanilla Shredder" not cultist

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #5764 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:04 am

So what
It’s probably like that the starting balance can be approximated

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #5765 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:05 am

so I'm not sure if this cult is even anti-town or not

pisskop · Post Post #5766 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:06 am

13:4:1:1:1:1 sounds right to me

pisskop · Post Post #5767 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:07 am

Meaning we nabbed all the scum and theres just the cult and another 3p?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #5768 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:08 am

there were 2 nightkills last night

also according to first page

"NoPowerOverMe flips ??Town??"

might be the cult is town aligned?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #5769 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:09 am

In post 5767, pisskop wrote:Meaning we nabbed all the scum and theres just the cult and another 3p?

didn't we only kill 3 scum? i think we kill the last scum and its game over town win ? the cult win condition says they win if they r alive at endgame

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #5770 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:09 am

We only have 3 flipped mafia

TiphaineDeath · Post Post #5771 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:11 am

Cult is def survivors, question is whether if they become 50% or greater and end the game is town still wins, and it doesn't seem likely.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #5772 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:12 am

if the cult leader recruited the last scum they should just claim that and tell us and we can all win together

TiphaineDeath · Post Post #5773 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:14 am

If there's only one scum left what do you think the odds are that it is A50 and that claim is a desperation gambit?

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #5774 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:17 am

the way we play this endgame is very different based on baker's answer to the cult question

if my interpretation of the cult win con is correct, and we just need to elim the last scum and its game over we all win, then we aim for the scum.

if this cult is actively against town win con and we need to eliminate the cult to win, we should avoid hitting the last scum and aim for cult leader dude