Open 800 - Donner Party | Game Over

[catboi]

On page 13.

VOTE: Chaos Triforce

[Noraa]

limp dick johnny

good thing I wasn't drinking orange juice this time

-orangejuicenornor

[superbowl9]

Also don’t i know you from somewhere cat man?

we played together once a long time ago~

Wow throwback! Good to see you again!

[Noraa]

god catching up is difficult

[Chaos Triforce]

limp dick johnny

good thing I wasn't drinking orange juice this time

-orangejuicenornor

god catching up is difficult

Fuck me. Pls no mod kill. it wasn't on purpose

-snifflynornor

[superbowl9]

yea I understand that, and that's what I tried to leave him alone too, until he's called for a policy lim on me despite leaving the thread and coming back and avoiding me. I was trying to respect his choice to avoid me thinking it was a personality clash.

However, him calling for policy lim on me, that's pretty shitty play, I guess regardless of his alignment. I am doing him a favor by saying he's a wolf not a town atp. I don't t hink a sane town will be calling for policy lim's for things I've done and in that fashion that is very outting.

The reason I'm ignoring you is because interacting with you won't help me nor anyone else win this game. Although I do find your posts about me quite funny

[superbowl9]

Highly doubt you will be modkilled for hydra slipping Nora LOL

[catboi]

Also don’t i know you from somewhere cat man?

we played together once a long time ago~

Wow throwback! Good to see you again!

Wanted to join to say hi, unfortunately starting to think you miiight be scum~

[Chaos Triforce]

yeah i feel like guillo is being intentionally toxic to rile us up because scum. guillo isnt always like this.

This doesn't sound like town!Taylor. Town!Taylor doesn't give two shits what anyone thinks about anything/anyone. Hmmmmmm.

backs off like limp dick johnny when I push back

I'm sorry????

I didn't think this was referencing Johnny but if it is, someones gonna fight an overprotective Noraa for it. Square up. *insert scary looking emoji*

-Protectiveofallmyhydrabuddiesnorbear

[Chaos Triforce]

Chaos

Lol except for the fact that you have too many people disagreeing with you and you can't exactly tell us there are six scum or something.

[Chaos Triforce]

-forgottosignnornor

[Chaos Triforce]

On page 13.

VOTE: Chaos Triforce

Ok. Now's where you write a whole analytical essay about why

-youreditornornor

[superbowl9]

Wanted to join to say hi, unfortunately starting to think you miiight be scum~

a short-lived reuinion

[superbowl9]

Also you down to hop on guillotina chaos? I think it's as good a D1 elim as we're gonna get

[catboi]

On page 13.

VOTE: Chaos Triforce

Ok. Now's where you write a whole analytical essay about why

-youreditornornor

Maybe when I'm done reading …φ(ω￣*)

Wanted to join to say hi, unfortunately starting to think you miiight be scum~

a short-lived reuinion

Can you elaborate on why you think guillotina is scum? Do you have any other reads?

[Chaos Triforce]

Also you down to hop on guillotina chaos? I think it's as good a D1 elim as we're gonna get

I believe both my partners TR him so by majority in our team, we TR that slot and will not vote there. We're all down for gamma tho (well technically we haven't even talked about gamma but like shhhh :/)

-sadnornor

[Gamma Emerald]

What are they doing that is “hurting the game health”? It honestly seems like you just want to get rid of slots you can’t manipulate.

Dude are you serious? They literally wallpost about ticky-tack technicalities, focused more on proving a point than reaching an objective. They center discussion around themselves because of their (wildly undeserved) unchecked egos. Their play shows no sign of subtlety or care for sensitive information (as you yourself have pointed out) and they are OMGUS prone. It’s just typical newer player stuff. I’m kind of disappointed I have to explain any of this to you - you really think they’re helping you develop reads and that they’re taking effective actions to improve gamestate??? It feels like I’m handholding you through all this as much as I am the new people though, like do I have to explain what makes good town discussions to you? I’m more inclined to believe you’re willing to throw up easy townreads to defend those creating poor gamestate

DT I can’t really vouch for how I think he’ll get better throughout the game, but guillotina at least seems genuinely considerate and thoughtful, even if it comes out a little off. And even if DT is “hurting game health”, I think he’s done stuff that seems a bit wonky to come from scum by pressing PJ like he did. Town!Noraa actually did a similar thing in the Haunted Village game with PJ. I think PJ just naturally has that sort of inability to process his own wrongness of his logic in a meaningful way, and town tend to react by thinking he’s being disingenuous.
I’d honestly probably FoS someone who out-the-gate didn’t think such an action was worth reprimand of some sort.

[Gamma Emerald]

Im a stubborn asshole. 48 hours later, I'm gonna think ur scum anyways. Nothing about that convo is gunna change my mind. Your actions in the future have the potential to do exactly that but telling me to go read something that I already read again and trying to say your perspective is better isn't gonna do anything good for you.

The idea there was to get your mind off me so you’d be able to look back later and maybe see that you’re tunneling. But it seems clear you’re not interested in any level of re-evaluation, and are in fact trying to act like your hydra is in unison on me, when you’ve not even actually talked about me amongst yourselves at all.

Tell me why I should be trusting your motives here?

[Chaos Triforce]

Im a stubborn asshole. 48 hours later, I'm gonna think ur scum anyways. Nothing about that convo is gunna change my mind. Your actions in the future have the potential to do exactly that but telling me to go read something that I already read again and trying to say your perspective is better isn't gonna do anything good for you.

The idea there was to get your mind off me so you’d be able to look back later and maybe see that you’re tunneling. But it seems clear you’re not interested in any level of re-evaluation, and are in fact trying to act like your hydra is in unison on me, when you’ve not even actually talked about me amongst yourselves at all.

Tell me why I should be trusting your motives here?

if everyone is null on you, my SR gets priority and how it is currently is everyone is null on you. Plus, I can convince all of the heads I think. Is shading me really fun for you gamma? Sure seems like ur having a good time.

-i'vefoundscum

[Gamma Emerald]

Like, one of the plays I made in the Haunted Village game was to bluff about not having a solid line of communication with my hydra partner. The only real truth there was the part about us having a temporary falling out that resulted in him quitting the game. It feels like you’re doing something similar by trying to act like you’re playing unilaterally when really you’ve stolen the wheel here.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Guys do you think guil is actually reading betrayal

[Gamma Emerald]

I also feel like that sort of command decision to act on something only one head feels is scummy probably comes from scum hydras more than town hydras.
Also that question at the bottom was legitimate. Assume I’m town for a second if you have to, and answer that to the best of your ability.

[Gamma Emerald]

3) What sensitive information is that? I say it because town is the UNINFORMED majority. WOLF SLIP??

It took reading both posts of you/superb twice but J figured out he’s talking about my “I eat players like you for breakfast” line. What I took issue with wasn’t the calling attention to it; it was doing so in a way that just looked like you wanted to be praised for seeing it. I could be some role that actually has that sort of power that would be crumbed that way, or I could be VT who took a chance to fake a crumb to throw off the scum. So while I don’t think Guillo did anything actively anti-town, I also think superb is not entirely overstepping by calling this out.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also what players am I defending that you take issue with, guillo?

[superbowl9]

What are they doing that is “hurting the game health”? It honestly seems like you just want to get rid of slots you can’t manipulate.

Dude are you serious? They literally wallpost about ticky-tack technicalities, focused more on proving a point than reaching an objective. They center discussion around themselves because of their (wildly undeserved) unchecked egos. Their play shows no sign of subtlety or care for sensitive information (as you yourself have pointed out) and they are OMGUS prone. It’s just typical newer player stuff. I’m kind of disappointed I have to explain any of this to you - you really think they’re helping you develop reads and that they’re taking effective actions to improve gamestate??? It feels like I’m handholding you through all this as much as I am the new people though, like do I have to explain what makes good town discussions to you? I’m more inclined to believe you’re willing to throw up easy townreads to defend those creating poor gamestate

DT I can’t really vouch for how I think he’ll get better throughout the game, but guillotina at least seems genuinely considerate and thoughtful, even if it comes out a little off. And even if DT is “hurting game health”, I think he’s done stuff that seems a bit wonky to come from scum by pressing PJ like he did. Town!Noraa actually did a similar thing in the Haunted Village game with PJ. I think PJ just naturally has that sort of inability to process his own wrongness of his logic in a meaningful way, and town tend to react by thinking he’s being disingenuous.
I’d honestly probably FoS someone who out-the-gate didn’t think such an action was worth reprimand of some sort.

You can be a nice guy and run a game into the ground at the same time. I don’t always elim the person who I think is most likely to be scum. I elim the person who provides the greatest marginal utility by dying. I believe at this moment that guillotine or DT’s scum chances + the benefit of removing a bunch of distraction posts gives me more of a chance of winning the game than taking a chance on someone like you who I scumlean.

So to say “well yeah but what have they done that’s scummy???” doesn’t really give me pause because it doesnt address why I’m actually pushing this.