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[the worst]

Hi I reviewed this game.

hello
was it picked up on that there was the potential to clear the traitor and that the checker was a really abstract way to balance around that?
was it noted that the checker & loyal jailkeeper should have confirmed each other as town via setup?

in general i just think i really strongly dislike the design concept, i'm curious to see what approach was taken to reviewing it

[the worst]

Honestly I think the reviewers massively underrated the potential to fuck up the game the scumteam had.

Well I do admit; the thought of the loyal jailkeeper protecting the bulletproof traitor the same night the scum killed them, providing a false innocent, did indeed not occur to me.

What're the odds of that happening? 1/(Number of players alive - 2) * 1/(number of players alive - 1)? So 1/6 * 1/7? That's, what, a 2.380952380952381% chance?

oh
yeah


it was fairly hilarious

[MURDERCAT]

What're the odds of that happening? 1/(Number of players alive - 2) * 1/(number of players alive - 1)? So 1/6 * 1/7? That's, what, a 2.380952380952381% chance?

Well we get multiple shots at it and it becomes more likely as the game goes on

[Blitzo]

Also I’m not outright blacklisting Blitzo but I don’t EVER want to roll neighbors with him again. WORST. HOOD PARTNER. EVER!!!

/shrug
I don't think you're anywhere near as communicative as you think you are and I'm not the only one who saw it.
But to each their own I suppose.

[Gamma Emerald]

You literally had no drive to post there at the start.

[Blitzo]

So what? The neighborhood wound up being completely useless aside from pissing shea off, who was town.
Maybe a neighborhood could be useful in certain circumstances but this game definitely wasn't it.

[Blitzo]

I think the shea read might also have been the only thing we kept hidden for the most part, and the hood got us scumread at one point.
If there's something that it would have revamped about us in this game, I don't see what it would have been. I know you wanted it to be important but it just really doesn't seem like it was that tbh.

[Blitzo]

Of course if you think I'm wrong feel free to say so.

[Thestatusquo]

I think my read of gamma as scum had nothing really to do with the hood in the end.

It had a lot to do with him expressing extreme confidence for what I saw as basically no reason. Saying you're 100% on someone being scum is something that you basically shouldn't ever be and claiming to be that certain over what I still see as really flimsy reasoning. A large part of why I was scumreading gamma at the end was because he seemed completely unwilling to even consider a world where I was town and that didn't strike me as something town would do.

Like I had a mechanically based reason to think bulge was scum and it turns out I shouldn't have even been 100% about that.

[Infinity 324]

1955 never comes from scum imo, also town gets confbiased a lot

[Thestatusquo]

blitzo alt reveal?

[Gamma Emerald]

No
I’m guessing Infinity was spectating this game

[MURDERCAT]

He wasn't in the dead thread though. If you were spectating you should have come and hung out infinity

[Noraa]

I will say that you lied which I used to think was a bad idea for town to do in like 99% of situations, but I'm starting to think that it's a bad idea to do 100% of the time. Not only are town very likely to mislim you but it's nearly impossible to read the alignment of somebody pushing what is essentially a policy yeet on the liar.

Also, this is a personal thing, but I found that the sheer volume of posts that you made made it hard to follow the game which is +EV for scum.

It was scummy play to soft tracker, I agree but at the time that was my best choice(imo)
like because sometimes sorting pr is enough to make people back off and if I ate a nk, that would've been p bomb.
the spamminess .... what can I say :/
it ... doesn't go away

[Gamma Emerald]

Well Blitzo thought I was confscum at the end so infinity ain’t him

[Blitzo]

blitzo alt reveal?

Nope, sorry.

[Infinity 324]

He wasn't in the dead thread though. If you were spectating you should have come and hung out infinity

True! If I remembered you were in this game I definitely would've done that

[the worst]

hoods are overrated unless you have synergy, please don't shade people for preferring to play in the main thread / not really solving well with you

[MURDERCAT]

I felt like scum played well this game but then I read the mafia pt
Maybe town just devoured itself and scum was smart enough to stay out of the way.
Pooky thinking I was traitor was pretty funny.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

that was NM actually lol

NM thought everyone was a traitor

[MURDERCAT]

whoops yeah that's what I meant

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like hoods should have some sort of opt-out clause where if all participants agree they can dissolve the hood in exchange for some alternate boon

[Thestatusquo]

I think hoods are a crappy mechanic almost in their entirety personally.

[Noraa]

ouch that scum pt. phewwwww. this game was a once in a lifetime experience where the scums didn't really even have to try :/

[MURDERCAT]

Boo I think neighbors are a great role, it is a more interesting VT with no change to EV.