Open 800 - Donner Party | Game Over

[DoubtingThomas]

it's funny that you say I couldn't handle the scrutiny on anynone outside of the 3 biggest wagons. lol. why would a scum!dt give any shit about towns trying to go wild and putting more people into the PoE? are you thinking clearly here?

it's funny that you say I couldn't handle the scrutiny on anynone outside of the 3 biggest wagons. lol. why would a scum!dt give any shit about towns trying to go wild and putting more people into the PoE? are you thinking clearly here?

it depends who was in the PoE. If scumDT was quite happy with the pool of 3, as you obviously were, scumDT would naturally be scared of his teammates or even himself being put into the PoE. I'm baffled I actually have to explain that.

no. I would encourage more people to put more people in the PoE to stir further confusion, because having only 3 people in the PoE is a pretty terrible scum play.

can you reply to this? i am waiting

[Battle Mage]

Spoiler:

Oh hi bm

hi Johnny

are you scum?

if not, who is scum?

did i claim yet?

if so, what?

PLEASE because right now the townblock is weird gamma and 2 newbies

great, who are the newbies? and who are we elimming?

I sort of like the progression in Catboi's ISO, as it has the vibe of genuine solving. But it's also pretty cagey and not throwing a lot of shade.

Catboi - who are your top scumreads today?

can we all just compromise on a VOTE: pob long

who tf is tom?

-weirdedoutnornor

why are your top 3 scum picks not including pob long?

do you think Chaos should be thinking pob long is scum? they aren't voting there?

guillo-superb-chaos

if this was truly the "consensus", a new guy shouldn't be able to make any waves. The fact that the new guy can just means that its not consensus.

-norbear

very true Noraa. what do you make of Thomas?

yea he's never talked to these people about any of these after asking bunch of questions earlier on before he engaged with me on full force.

definitely feels like asking questions for the sake of asking

looking down that list, most of those questions were answered, and didn't require a response back from me. The ones which weren't, weren't really important. Again, this is a real weak attempt to retrospectively fashion a case on me, to try and back up your tunnel from the beginning.

[DoubtingThomas]

if you can succinctly explain why you scum read me from when you were voting pob long instead of making accusations that my strategy this game was scum 101, it would make me more likely believe that your push on me is genuine, tbh. a lot of your 'scum reads' on me have been in reaction to what i've done to you. like 'oh you are emotive, you said 'very noted' ' it doesn't feel real. can you please explain your reads in details intead of keep saying i am newb scum? like

[DoubtingThomas]

your entire thesis around me seems like it revolves around the idea that i am a newb!scum and things i do is newb!scum. can you describe your scum read on me without using the word newb!scum? how about hypothetically speaking i told you that i am a decent scum. what have i done that makes you think i am a scum?

[Guillotina]

I said you haven't done any solving at the point of you trying to push pob long for low efforting. that is a true statement because you've only tried any solving on me and that was even after I joined the thread and engaged YOU. not because you were really solving me. and

it's very evident that you haven't read any of my posts

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eh, if you're gonna continue to be ridiculous, there's no point in me engaging you. it's inconceivable you're town at this point.

sorry but no matter how you look at this you are saying i am too inconceivable to the point that i am town. maybe you were trying to say it's inconceivable to say you're town at this point, but that's not on me. you wrote it in this manner sorry if english isn't your first language not trying to attack your linguistic skill but it reads that way. 'you are too wolfy that you are town at this point'

Sorry Thomas, but i understood it as “there is no way you are town”, ne never townread you there.

do you think Thomas is trying to solve my slot in good faith?

Honestly the exchange between you two has gotten so ridiculous, that i dont feel either of you are trying to solve each other in good faith.

I back DT on regards pob long. We get no info from his yeet and i won't be voting there today.
I rather keep my vote on superb or switch to gamma, those are the two im willing to compromise for in day 1.

I'd like that we the active players try to solve people like chkflip, johnny farrar and taylor too, they are too comfortable letting us beat each other.

[DoubtingThomas]

like you were literally scraping posts where i was cussing and started laughing. that doesn't feel genuine scum read? do you really believe that all of the things you've done is in good faith?

you said that me focusing on one person and jumping around while buddying anyone who town reads me is scum 101? that's what you've done too? you don't think? you started pushing pob long, anad when i came into the thread, i was 80% of the things you've talked about. the only other scum read you ever had is on guillotina? but to a limited extent? hmm? like that's not a real scum read if it's a behavior that towns can easily do and it's something that could be used to describe your exact play?

[Battle Mage]

if you can succinctly explain why you scum read me from when you were voting pob long instead of making accusations that my strategy this game was scum 101, it would make me more likely believe that your push on me is genuine, tbh. a lot of your 'scum reads' on me have been in reaction to what i've done to you. like 'oh you are emotive, you said 'very noted' ' it doesn't feel real. can you please explain your reads in details intead of keep saying i am newb scum? like

Why would I care what your believe? You're either just scum, or town who has no inclination towards solving my slot. I think newb-town you would be...well, as I think you described it earlier, more enthusiastic and zealous and trying to read people. No evidence of that here.

and to pick just one thing above, I believe I was scumreading you before you'd said anything to me?

[DoubtingThomas]

if you have any will to engage in good faith, please answer #1075 for the 3rd time i am asking, along with post #1077 and #1078.

[DoubtingThomas]

if you can succinctly explain why you scum read me from when you were voting pob long instead of making accusations that my strategy this game was scum 101, it would make me more likely believe that your push on me is genuine, tbh. a lot of your 'scum reads' on me have been in reaction to what i've done to you. like 'oh you are emotive, you said 'very noted' ' it doesn't feel real. can you please explain your reads in details intead of keep saying i am newb scum? like

Why would I care what your believe? You're either just scum, or town who has no inclination towards solving my slot. I think newb-town you would be...well, as I think you described it earlier, more enthusiastic and zealous and trying to read people. No evidence of that here.

and to pick just one thing above, I believe I was scumreading you before you'd said anything to me?

please stop ignoring post #1075. i definitely had a lot of inclination towards solving your slot. i stopped pushing your slot after you substituted in. then i saw your posts and i still don't know how your progression panned out from pub long to me.

[DoubtingThomas]

Spoiler:

who tf is tom?

-weirdedoutnornor

why are your top 3 scum picks not including pob long?

do you think Chaos should be thinking pob long is scum? they aren't voting there?

you claimed that a 3 person scum team but wants a low poster dead because you want 'something to happen'? in d1? i don't really buy this

that was just my hero solve for the end-game cred. I'm less convinced on Gamma now, but I still think you're pretty scummy.

What's not to buy? Dude, in my last Open game we had literally completed 4 gamedays by this stage.

why don't you want to vote, superb battle mage

thanks for the compliment i guess, i'll let you off the earlier diss

frankly

, when the game has made a consensus elim pool like we did here with guillo-superb-chaos, it's very anti town for a newly subbed in person to try to add additional confusion and instead of elaborating on the consensus choice to try to start everything all over again and derail the thread by pushing low posting slots that people weren't talking about in 33/33 pages of the game thread like you've done.

LOL no dude, you're way off here. It's

pro-town

to actually look at everybody, rather than just going with the consensus by default. Additionally, we have like a week until deadline, so there's plenty of time to get more info if you want and yet you're getting precious about a couple of 2/3 person wagons. It's not "starting everything all over again", it's just adding something new to the conversation. Although from your passionate statement above, it sounds like you're awfully worried about moving away from that existing consensus?

even if you were correct on pob long coasting, it gives us more information to elim out of the consensus so there are more associations to go off of. killing pob long after what we've all discussed is about others gives us 0 info even if pob long was indeed a low effort wolf. and there's no guarantee in that either, of course.

This just reads like a cop-out for not looking at pob long. it's not inherently zero info to look at someone who hasn't been suspected (because info can follow from that), and it's definitely not anti-town.

VOTE: Doubting Thomas

I think I'm happier on this one today. Very informative too!

so i am assuming this progression just means you think i was trying to protect scum!pob long or something? what a stretch of a progression if you can explain better so i can see if your thought progression actually makes sense i will appreciate it

haha well i actually answered that question earlier in the game i think - i guess you just forgot/didn't read?

maybe i missed it as i've posted and we were talking over each other and others were joining in the conversation if you can explain again it would be good if you don't want to for some reason ok

you have ignored this, again, unfortunately

[Battle Mage]

like you were literally scraping posts where i was cussing and started laughing. that doesn't feel genuine scum read? do you really believe that all of the things you've done is in good faith?

that was nothing to do with my read on your alignment - i just felt like calling out some of your comments, and i'm still laughing now just thinking about it

i'll respond to other stuff later, if Gamma gives me permission.

[DoubtingThomas]

i don't see a transparency in your thought. and no, i scum read you before you joined. i was scum reading your slot from way before you joined the game

[Battle Mage]

nah im going to bed

[DoubtingThomas]

i'll respond to other stuff later, if Gamma gives me permission.

i don't understand this statement, but i note that you aren't trying to engage me in live, even though i requested in a civil manner. i guess i gotta go for the night bye

[Battle Mage]

i don't see a transparency in your thought. and no, i scum read you before you joined. i was scum reading your slot from way before you joined the game

that's different to me responding to things you've done to ME though - you're moving the goalposts here.

[Battle Mage]

i'll respond to other stuff later, if Gamma gives me permission.

i don't understand this statement, but i note that you aren't trying to engage me in live, even though i requested in a civil manner. i guess i gotta go for the night bye

Gamma wanted me to stop talking, presumably so you can both enjoy more of a love-in. It's 3am, I'm fucking shattered.

[DoubtingThomas]

i don't see a transparency in your thought. and no, i scum read you before you joined. i was scum reading your slot from way before you joined the game

that's different to me responding to things you've done to ME though - you're moving the goalposts here.

quite wrong, again. i engaged with you as soon as i came back once you subbed in, and after our engagement, i thought that your read and treatment of my slot along with the push for pub long who is a low efforting slot was not town indicative at all. it is this very push that made you vote me.

you can't take credit that you scum read me first when you substituted in into a slot and started reading stuff back before i joined the thread again to even see you substituted in. needlessto say you never 'explained' why you were 'scum reading' me only that you thought 2 others plus myself were your 'hypothetical team' and you weren't voting any of us :/

[DoubtingThomas]

if you somehow get time to explain why you initially thought i was scummy and how that thought progressed while talking to me, i think that'd help me understand you a little more.

without that, based on my pov and how we interacted, it feels like the only reason you ended up voting me is because i said whawt you are doing is anti-town and because i don't think pob long is a good yeet, which you disagreed. this alone, i don't think really warrants a scum read, and that's why i think your scum read on me is unbelievable. maybe if you can explain things in your perspective, this thought can change.

[Tayl0r Swift]

the top 5 posters should post less please. youre spamming like crazy and saying dumb shit. most posts arent worth reading, its offputting to the rest of us, and youre making the signal/noise ratio really bad.

[DoubtingThomas]

yessir. it's weekday so i am gonna try to do real life stuff. peace for a while

[Gamma Emerald]

i am so cool and useful

Okay the quote walls are getting old
Stop.

[Gamma Emerald]

to answer your question, yeah I'll treat all your abusive and mean shit as the joke it is

Well as I see it you’re trying to undermine me, which is either scum or bad town.

[Gamma Emerald]

i'm not sure you get much cred for picking 2 random unrelated posts and calling an inconsistency

fucking

HUH

[Gamma Emerald]

you said i am town at this point and then quickly tried to beg for others to vote for me soon after

lol please look up "inconceivable" in the dictionary if you're being serious here

Shut up Inigo

you said i am town at this point and then quickly tried to beg for others to vote for me soon after

lol please look up "inconceivable" in the dictionary if you're being serious here

how does that matter... lol? you said i am too inconceivable so that i have to be town?

Shut up Vizzini

Both of you just stop engaging the other already!

[Gamma Emerald]

like you were literally scraping posts where i was cussing and started laughing. that doesn't feel genuine scum read? do you really believe that all of the things you've done is in good faith?

that was nothing to do with my read on your alignment - i just felt like calling out some of your comments, and i'm still laughing now just thinking about it

i'll respond to other stuff later, if Gamma gives me permission.

Permission denied, but same goes for DT. Form/push other reads for a change.