976: mystyry box of sylvyr I: isis game. day 3

[Gypyx]

Gypyx is scummy because he's been sitting back all game long and then tried to elim me when it doesn't make sense while trying to act neutral about it

You think trying to exe at deadline doesn't make sense?

[Dunnstral]

Akarin is pretty likely to be scum based on math being the nightkill imo,

Why?

[Gypyx]

Akarin is pretty likely to be scum based on math being the nightkill imo,

Why?

Math / me are the only ones SR'ing akarin, it was also the main / only read Math pushed, even if scum were just going for obvtown, akarin makes way more sense as the NK in a town!akarin world

[schadd_]

Spoiler:

vote count 2.1

mastina (2):

Dunnstral, SKYEscrapers

SKYEscrapers (1):

mastina

Akarin (1):

Gypyx

not voting (3):

TheGoldenParadox, Akarin, DoubtingThomas

with 7 alive, it takes 4 to Finally Forbid someone. day 2 ends november 26th at 11:15 central US time; in (expired on 2020-11-26 11:15:00)

mod notes

• SKYEscrapers will be VLA until tuesday

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[TheGoldenParadox]

SKYEscrapers (2): mastina, SKYEscrapers

i believe skye voted mastina ?

[schadd_]

oopse

[SKYEscrapers]

Ok so hmmmm, Akarin is pretty likely to be scum based on math being the nightkill imo, and

i still haven't given up my scumread on her

VOTE: Akarin

is this still based on the scumslip thing?

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@schadd_

you can take me off vla. ari did that because he's going to be vla, but i'm here.

[SKYEscrapers]

Ok so hmmmm, Akarin is pretty likely to be scum based on math being the nightkill imo, and

i still haven't given up my scumread on her

VOTE: Akarin

is this still based on the scumslip thing?

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@schadd_

you can take me off vla. ari did that because he's going to be vla, but i'm here.

The Empress

[DoubtingThomas]

Math, you made over 6 pages worth of posts in a 30 page game in 24 hours.

People are coasting and it's easy for them to miss or "miss" questions in the noise.

I want to see TGP actually explain their thoughts before the day ends.

And a majority of that was catching up / getting into the swing of things.

Again you’re failing to interact with the logic above.

You posting about that doesn’t stop TGP from answering and if need be I will be a cheerleader for it.

However you need to confront the reality of how defensive/anti-hunt Nic is truly being.

Math, do you really feel like a game where everyone fights with you and no one has any interactions with each other makes scumhunting easier?

Akarin, do you engage in hyperbole often to distract from caught scum?

You want to hunt TGP I am helping you.

You lied I called you out. Your response is this.

This is similar to the Undertale game where there was one freakin scum out of 20 plus players.

You should be trying to figure out where your stance is on Nic.

If I am right, I am probably deader than a doornail tomorrow which is okay.

YOU ARE NOT HELPING.

You're making it hard for me to get anything out of anyone else and you're honestly really hurting engagement in the game.

I shut up for 12 hours close to deadline.

I won’t let you go on a fucking fishing expedition for someone else.

You have blatantly refused to interact with the arguments and only said Nic is town.

Sorry you don’t like Nic is the elim today.

TGP did respond to you and you responded with a lie.

If you tell the truth and interact with what is in thread I miraculously shut up.

If you do bullshit I stop you.

My scum possible list: Nic, A, Mastina, Ari Hydra, Dunn

That’s the order of priority too imho assuming Nic is scum.

If Nic is town then A gets temporary reprieve. The last two admittedly are PoE as I like everyone else more.

[DoubtingThomas]

akarin is almost too wifomy to be a wolf with that mathblade kill. but i prefer akarin kill still

[DoubtingThomas]

gypyx had akarin as townie yesterday and is quick to reevaluate with mathblade kill i associate that with towniness

[SKYEscrapers]

mathblade's scumread of akarin appears to be predicated on nic scum. i don't think mathblade is a kill that is more likely to come from akarin, or if it is, not by very much.

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gypyx had akarin as townie yesterday and is quick to reevaluate with mathblade kill i associate that with towniness

the reevaluation actually came a lot earlier. he's been scumreading her since 204.

[mastina]

hey, mastina. why was nic's claim suspect?

While I did technically say this, it is a little bit of bad faith to present the argument I said it.
I said it in one post, a post specifically directed towards Mathblade, who was of the opinion NicCage's claim was suspect. I used the word 'suspect' in reference to NicCage's claim specifically in that one post only, to specifically talk to Mathblade about it. I otherwise would never have used the word 'suspect' because the word 'suspect' has a connotation that implies a level of suspicion that was nonexistent. (I do craft my word usage towards my audience. Mathblade was my audience so I crafted my word usage to speak specifically to him and appeal to him.)

I felt that NicCage's claim was of dubious authenticity, which you could describe as a 'suspect' claim--but I never thought that the dubious authenticity claim was suspicious from Nic. I thought that Nic was either town or 3p, never scum, from his claim. Nic's claim looked somewhat-doubtful as being a town claim, so I thought it was probably a 3p claim, until it was shown that it could only be town or scum, and if forced between town or scum, I'd have thought, in spite of the dubious nature of the claim, town.

As for why I was of the opinion that NicCage's claim was of dubious authenticity, you've got like four or five players' worth of isos explaining the why--the claim of percentage of town-mafia 90-10, then pushing the 10, then the confusion around the 3p possibilities, meant that there was a whole lot of things that painted a confusing, inconsistent, narrative. But push come to shove, I'd have still thought that, in spite of that, Nic was more likely town than scum due to his play making more sense as town that didn't have a full grasp of his role and how he did seek clarification and did get, consistent, answers from the mod.

[SKYEscrapers]

hey, mastina. why was nic's claim suspect?

While I did technically say this, it is a little bit of bad faith to present the argument I said it.
I said it in one post, a post specifically directed towards Mathblade, who was of the opinion NicCage's claim was suspect. I used the word 'suspect' in reference to NicCage's claim specifically in that one post only, to specifically talk to Mathblade about it. I otherwise would never have used the word 'suspect' because the word 'suspect' has a connotation that implies a level of suspicion that was nonexistent. (I do craft my word usage towards my audience. Mathblade was my audience so I crafted my word usage to speak specifically to him and appeal to him.)

I felt that NicCage's claim was of dubious authenticity, which you could describe as a 'suspect' claim--but I never thought that the dubious authenticity claim was suspicious from Nic. I thought that Nic was either town or 3p, never scum, from his claim. Nic's claim looked somewhat-doubtful as being a town claim, so I thought it was probably a 3p claim, until it was shown that it could only be town or scum, and if forced between town or scum, I'd have thought, in spite of the dubious nature of the claim, town.

As for why I was of the opinion that NicCage's claim was of dubious authenticity, you've got like four or five players' worth of isos explaining the why--the claim of percentage of town-mafia 90-10, then pushing the 10, then the confusion around the 3p possibilities, meant that there was a whole lot of things that painted a confusing, inconsistent, narrative. But push come to shove, I'd have still thought that, in spite of that, Nic was more likely town than scum due to his play making more sense as town that didn't have a full grasp of his role and how he did seek clarification and did get, consistent, answers from the mod.

i know you meant suspect that way. in that same post you said some of the same stuff about nic being likely town despite the claim being suspect. i was asking about that specifically. why was that claim in the abstract bad? to me, it seemed like exactly the sort of thing that schadd would do in a mbos. and, i would think that you would be able to recognize that as well.

[SKYEscrapers]

ok, i keep messing up signing my posts. i'm the one who types in lowercase, so you can use that to distinguish me if i forget again.

The Empress

[Akarin]

akarin is almost too wifomy to be a wolf with that mathblade kill. but i prefer akarin kill still

How come?

[DoubtingThomas]

cuz i read the posts i scraped

[Akarin]

TGP, any thoughts about the game today?

[Akarin]

cuz i read the posts i scraped

And that leads to me being your preferred Dastardly Deed for what reason?

[Dunnstral]

Are we waiting for something? Akarin, vote for mastina. DoubtingThomas, vote for Akarin. And then TheGoldenParadox, decide between mastina or Akarin. This doesn't take 10 days.

[Akarin]

Yeah, Dunn, actually I have been waiting for a couple things before putting a vote down or saying much.

I get your impatience but I don't want the day to be over that fast, want to see how some people talk to some other people. Doesn't need to be 10 days, but I'd rather it not be like 1 page.

And it's weird how silent this game has gotten to me.

[DoubtingThomas]

VOTE: akarin

[DoubtingThomas]

cuz i read the posts i scraped

And that leads to me being your preferred Dastardly Deed for what reason?

what do you mean - how is a flipped town (mathblad) who seems like an obvious competent player being dead in n1 after only subbing in midway through d1 like not have any weight to you? you were his 'next in line to chop' that's what i mean by wifom

[SKYEscrapers]

cuz i read the posts i scraped

And that leads to me being your preferred Dastardly Deed for what reason?

what do you mean - how is a flipped town (mathblad) who seems like an obvious competent player being dead in n1 after only subbing in midway through d1 like not have any weight to you? you were his 'next in line to chop' that's what i mean by wifom

have you not read my post? akarin was only next in line if nic was scum.

The Empress

[SKYEscrapers]

And it's weird how silent this game has gotten to me.

^^^

I'm actually here now and ready to talk to people.

The Empress