Open 800 - Donner Party | Game Over

[DoubtingThomas]

you must be cool and good at what you do like Neymar

[DoubtingThomas]

in the case i am tunneled maybe the world can be tayl0r - johnny? hm

[Gamma Emerald]

can u explain what you were referring to when you were asking for him to confirm if you are overestimating his game?

I forgot he was also in that game SOMEHOW.

That probably makes it even more of a yikes.

But what I mean is he hard locked me as scum that game pretty quickly when I started actually doing stuff in the game. I don’t know if he’s just that good or if being part of a masonry helped, or something else.

[DoubtingThomas]

well i can tell you that he's not that good because i am town :shrug:

[Gamma Emerald]

Guys I checked my meta from 2012 offsite and actually in Thanksgiving Thrifting Hunt 15 I made this exact same play, it came from scum. Not sure how much clearer evidence you want

Lollll
Might be the first time scum has legit tried to discredit my anecdotal meta

[superbowl9]

Guys I checked my meta from 2012 offsite and actually in Thanksgiving Thrifting Hunt 15 I made this exact same play, it came from scum. Not sure how much clearer evidence you want

Lollll
Might be the first time scum has legit tried to discredit my anecdotal meta

Gonna have to wait a little longer on that my friend

[Tayl0r Swift]

legacy is

Gamma
Ari
Guillotina
Chk

Chaos

Johnny
Battle Mage

Superb

this list makes me sad

[Tayl0r Swift]

i know im quiet. its more about spam making the game less fun than anything. im reading along and have some reads but its pretty low-confidence due to noise interfering with the signals.

i do think gamma and chaos are prob town. dt could be town, or at least i dont see myself voting there.
chk and ari could be scum
erbow is probably scum.
guillo is still scum.

[chkflip]

erbow

Don't you ever call me chucklip, erbow.

[Guillotina]

i know im quiet. its more about spam making the game less fun than anything. im reading along and have some reads but its pretty low-confidence due to noise interfering with the signals.

i do think gamma and chaos are prob town. dt could be town, or at least i dont see myself voting there.
chk and ari could be scum
erbow is probably scum.
guillo is still scum.

Well you are super wrong about me, i suggest you looking somewhere else. If you won't, then case me instead of just calling me scum. Or do you just expect people to take your word for it?

Why are gamma/dt town/town for you?

[chkflip]

She does. Isn't it

rude?

[Guillotina]

She does. Isn't it

rude?

Nah, it's not rude.

It's arrogant.

[JohnnyFarrar]

erbow

Don't you ever call me chucklip, erbow.

Legit had to look at the playerlist to figure out who this was

[superbowl9]

Well you are super wrong about me, i suggest you looking somewhere else. If you won't, then case me instead of just calling me scum. Or do you just expect people to take your word for it?

The reason she won’t do that is because she knows you will just take her points and “destroy them with facts and logic”. A lot of newer players want like a point by point case they can tear down to feel like they’ve won an argument or interaction, but you can literally technicality and overanalyze your way out of ANY point someone can bring up in this game.

It’s just not an efficient or fun way to play, so a lot of people use more broad terminology and clarify when necessary, and will debate more on the spirit of an argument rather than trying to think up arguments to prove themselves right. Why would anyone with that approach bother to give a nuanced explanation when they know the spirit of that message will not be relevant to the one responding? Yet you view it as “they have no argument! They must have backed off because they were scared of interaction!”

I know this because I used to be that player. I also know this post probably won’t convince you of what I’m saying. But if you’re looking for an explanation as to why I’ve “shaded” you and DT, this is it. Have fun destroying it with facts and logic

[Aristophanes]

Okay so I've read up on the 3 pages that popped up while I was asleep and I've had to reevaluate some things.

Mostly I think DT is definitely super towny and that SuperBowl69 is scummy.

VOTE: SB69

The reactions within these pages to the conversations and especially to suspicuons on each of them were AI and gave me a lot to go on

[superbowl9]

Why do you think i’m scummy ari? Talk to me

[Aristophanes]

(I also did that on the bus to work and don't have time to answer rn but I'll quote ya in a bit. My apologies)

[catboi]

Okay so I've read up on the 3 pages that popped up while I was asleep and I've had to reevaluate some things.

Mostly I think DT is definitely super towny and that SuperBowl69 is scummy.

VOTE: SB69

The reactions within these pages to the conversations and especially to suspicuons on each of them were AI and gave me a lot to go on

What made you reverse course from thinking he was town earlier?

[catboi]

Just seems a strange reversal because his content in the last couple pages has been sarcastic quips and being paranoid of gamma agreeing with him, I'm not really seeing what there is especially scummy relative to everything else he's posted.

Johnny really falling in my eyes, thomas scumread is no good and the only reason I can see for it is him quoting something Battle Mage said about thomas attacking people who disagree with him.

[Guillotina]

Well you are super wrong about me, i suggest you looking somewhere else. If you won't, then case me instead of just calling me scum. Or do you just expect people to take your word for it?

The reason she won’t do that is because she knows you will just take her points and “destroy them with facts and logic”. A lot of newer players want like a point by point case they can tear down to feel like they’ve won an argument or interaction, but you can literally technicality and overanalyze your way out of ANY point someone can bring up in this game.

It’s just not an efficient or fun way to play, so a lot of people use more broad terminology and clarify when necessary, and will debate more on the spirit of an argument rather than trying to think up arguments to prove themselves right. Why would anyone with that approach bother to give a nuanced explanation when they know the spirit of that message will not be relevant to the one responding? Yet you view it as “they have no argument! They must have backed off because they were scared of interaction!”

I know this because I used to be that player. I also know this post probably won’t convince you of what I’m saying. But if you’re looking for an explanation as to why I’ve “shaded” you and DT, this is it. Have fun destroying it with facts and logic

What do you know about the reason she will not do it, did she tell you in chat? Why is Taylor ok with this guy answering for her?

So you are saying that if someone accuses me of scum, I shouldnt try to debunk their theory to prove that I'm not? And instead what? Let the accuser lead a wagon to miseliminate me?
When you said that i can “literally overanalyze my way out of any point someone can bring up in this game”, what did you mean? Can you show me examples where i've done this?

These are all legit non rhetorical questions.

[Gamma Emerald]

I still think catboi is town

[Guillotina]

But here is the thing. No wolf is gonna openly talk about policy eliminations.

also not true proven by experience both personal and witnessing someone else

Can that experience be corroborated?

in terms of how my experience was when i did that? yes there was no consequence in me calling for policy lim and as scum i knew once the town flipped ttown, i wouldn't get heat for anything besides 'why would you try to policy lim??'

calling for policy lim also gives more confusion and negative feeling in the thread that is beneficial for scums, along with another positive (for scum) side effect of making people become more emotional, away from logic and truth

What i meant is if you can provide links here of games where players who have advocated for policy lynch on D1, turned up scum?

Johnny probably staying away from interacting with me and 'calming the thread' while not really taking a stance besides his vote on me is scummy, imo

Mindmeld. Johnny's 1139 made me make a question in my head: “This is weird, why?”

[Guillotina]

all the "scum reads" I got this game

-Too go-with-the-flowy to be town (Chaos)
-Shitting everyone (battle mage)
-Policy lim because he's bad for game health (superb)
-He's biting everyone's head off (Guillotina)
-Used AtE (Chk)

all the "scum reads" I got this game

-Too go-with-the-flowy to be town (Chaos)
-Shitting everyone (battle mage)
-Policy lim because he's bad for game health (superb)
-He's biting everyone's head off (Johnny)
-Used AtE (Chk)
-He's irrational when wolf (Guillotina.. although I don't think I ever wolfed against you besides a game that I subbed in for a day which I don't think really counts but w/e)

What happened here? Couldn't make up your mind?

[Guillotina]

Too go-with-the-flowy to be town

That is a legit reason though, maybe it’s not good but it’s not policy or w/e
Who out of those do you think is most likely to be scum? Do you think the team is on you, if so who would it be?
PEdit: I don’t recall Johnny saying you were scummy with that

I love this post. Legit

[Guillotina]

What i've been trying to figure out here is the gamma/dt relation.

Are they really buddying up?

Or

Is it a pocketing case and if so, who pocketed who?