i definitely dont think she's survivalistic, she wont even vote for the other big wagon.In post 2174, Flavor Leaf wrote:So many other people on the Noraa wagon, but I’m being singled out is why I have little care for this conversation. It’s just survivalism, regardless of alignment. I’m not like 100% set on even fading the slot today, there’s just a large wagon on someone I am okay with fading Day 1 because I think there’s a decent shot of them being scum.
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If you’re town, I’d be afraid of it too, but luckily for you I am town.In post 2172, Cabd wrote:Ffrrysyrmy help I think leafie just mind melded with me and I haven't even laid a single hint of it down.
If you’re scum, you’re trying to pocket me.
Does this help ease your mind?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Alright. I’ll stand aside, let me know if you need anything from me.In post 2171, Fermis Flames wrote:
You, ShihanIn post 2156, Cobra Kai wrote:Who do you think pocketed you fferyllt?
I’m also not surprised at all at Flavor Leafs newfound scumread of me.
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Alright but don't you see the problem here, you just said 'I am confident', then in the 3rd sentence said 'I'm not actually not that confident'. Which is it? This is my own interpretation of confidence but I find when people are sure they want something out of it. Look at Cabd and his confidence towards Cakez. It's been blood sweat and tears. Not all players need to display it in that way but if I felt really strongly about something I would like to either confirm my suspicions or start leading arguments that I think can convince others to vote with me. So far, I think you've mostly sat here and said you're confident but frankly your arguments don't give me that vibe. I'm starting to think you don't believe your own bullshit as well.In post 2169, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 2154, unwnd wrote:
I just think that's really convenient to line up your reads like that. I think the only relation me and Noraa have is disliking you, but you're treating us within the similar range. I don't like this and I find your reasoning to still be half-hearted, especially with 'well it's d1 so I'm not gonna worry if I'm wrong I'm wrong'. There's nothing inherently bad about having confidence, but I seriously don't know where it comes from and why I'm justIn post 2146, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’ve already stated i think it’s more likely only 1 of you are scum, so i don’t get what you’re pushing with that “not a good look” thing.supposedto believe it.
It’s not my fault you guys see thatI’m confident.
Me being confident and me being confident on my Day 1 reads do not have to be together as you are pushing them to be.
You think I’m far more solid on the reads than I actually am,and it feels incredibly contrived or overreactions by both of you.Protect yourself from the back of your mind- Flavor Leaf
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Different tactic. She’s creating noise to give herself content to work with, and she doesn’t need to put the vote there yet because she’s still got time.In post 2175, Battle Mage wrote:
i definitely dont think she's survivalistic, she wont even vote for the other big wagon.In post 2174, Flavor Leaf wrote:So many other people on the Noraa wagon, but I’m being singled out is why I have little care for this conversation. It’s just survivalism, regardless of alignment. I’m not like 100% set on even fading the slot today, there’s just a large wagon on someone I am okay with fading Day 1 because I think there’s a decent shot of them being scum.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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12 days.In post 2179, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Different tactic. She’s creating noise to give herself content to work with, and she doesn’t need to put the vote there yet because she’s still got time.In post 2175, Battle Mage wrote:
i definitely dont think she's survivalistic, she wont even vote for the other big wagon.In post 2174, Flavor Leaf wrote:So many other people on the Noraa wagon, but I’m being singled out is why I have little care for this conversation. It’s just survivalism, regardless of alignment. I’m not like 100% set on even fading the slot today, there’s just a large wagon on someone I am okay with fading Day 1 because I think there’s a decent shot of them being scum.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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Just because I can’t yet put it into words doesn’t mean I’m not confident. Cabd and I are different players as well, and I don’t think he should be that confident on Cakez, nor do I think he is as confident as he lets out to be with it.In post 2178, unwnd wrote:
Alright but don't you see the problem here, you just said 'I am confident', then in the 3rd sentence said 'I'm not actually not that confident'. Which is it? This is my own interpretation of confidence but I find when people are sure they want something out of it. Look at Cabd and his confidence towards Cakez. It's been blood sweat and tears. Not all players need to display it in that way but if I felt really strongly about something I would like to either confirm my suspicions or start leading arguments that I think can convince others to vote with me. So far, I think you've mostly sat here and said you're confident but frankly your arguments don't give me that vibe. I'm starting to think you don't believe your own bullshit as well.In post 2169, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 2154, unwnd wrote:
I just think that's really convenient to line up your reads like that. I think the only relation me and Noraa have is disliking you, but you're treating us within the similar range. I don't like this and I find your reasoning to still be half-hearted, especially with 'well it's d1 so I'm not gonna worry if I'm wrong I'm wrong'. There's nothing inherently bad about having confidence, but I seriously don't know where it comes from and why I'm justIn post 2146, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’ve already stated i think it’s more likely only 1 of you are scum, so i don’t get what you’re pushing with that “not a good look” thing.supposedto believe it.
It’s not my fault you guys see thatI’m confident.
Me being confident and me being confident on my Day 1 reads do not have to be together as you are pushing them to be.
You think I’m far more solid on the reads than I actually am,and it feels incredibly contrived or overreactions by both of you.
I am confident this game, that doesn’t mean I have to have the whole scum team caught Day 1. I’m working on progressing my reads and evolving them, having each connection become more complex until the game makes more sense. Flips will need to happen because their are plateaus.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Didn't this also happen earlier?In post 2172, Cabd wrote:Ffrrysyrmy help I think leafie just mind melded with me and I haven't even laid a single hint of it down.
When spin's caught up I look forward to his thoughts about this. He agreed with your FL townlean a while back.
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In post 2181, Battle Mage wrote:
12 days.In post 2179, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Different tactic. She’s creating noise to give herself content to work with, and she doesn’t need to put the vote there yet because she’s still got time.In post 2175, Battle Mage wrote:
i definitely dont think she's survivalistic, she wont even vote for the other big wagon.In post 2174, Flavor Leaf wrote:So many other people on the Noraa wagon, but I’m being singled out is why I have little care for this conversation. It’s just survivalism, regardless of alignment. I’m not like 100% set on even fading the slot today, there’s just a large wagon on someone I am okay with fading Day 1 because I think there’s a decent shot of them being scum.
Day 1 deadline doesn’t need to be coincided with the actual deadline. I feel it should be based within the context of the game.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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he was wagonning cakez for role related reasons.In post 2184, ManWithNoName wrote:Cabd why did you leave the cakes wagon? You were so sure of it.
hmm
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there's 22 players, it's page 85, BM needs a flipIn post 2185, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 2181, Battle Mage wrote:
12 days.In post 2179, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Different tactic. She’s creating noise to give herself content to work with, and she doesn’t need to put the vote there yet because she’s still got time.In post 2175, Battle Mage wrote:
i definitely dont think she's survivalistic, she wont even vote for the other big wagon.In post 2174, Flavor Leaf wrote:So many other people on the Noraa wagon, but I’m being singled out is why I have little care for this conversation. It’s just survivalism, regardless of alignment. I’m not like 100% set on even fading the slot today, there’s just a large wagon on someone I am okay with fading Day 1 because I think there’s a decent shot of them being scum.
Day 1 deadline doesn’t need to be coincided with the actual deadline. I feel it should be based within the context of the game.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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I don't want you to stand aside. I want enough interaction that I can figure out if this is...what's that term all the cool kids use...mindmeld, something more sinister, or both.In post 2177, Cobra Kai wrote:
Alright. I’ll stand aside, let me know if you need anything from me.In post 2171, Fermis Flames wrote:
You, ShihanIn post 2156, Cobra Kai wrote:Who do you think pocketed you fferyllt?
I’m also not surprised at all at Flavor Leafs newfound scumread of me.
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Didn't you say that you think I could be scum with Cakez trying to protect him? ...Did something change with your Cakez read?In post 2182, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Just because I can’t yet put it into words doesn’t mean I’m not confident. Cabd and I are different players as well, and I don’t think he should be that confident on Cakez, nor do I think he is as confident as he lets out to be with it.In post 2178, unwnd wrote:
Alright but don't you see the problem here, you just said 'I am confident', then in the 3rd sentence said 'I'm not actually not that confident'. Which is it? This is my own interpretation of confidence but I find when people are sure they want something out of it. Look at Cabd and his confidence towards Cakez. It's been blood sweat and tears. Not all players need to display it in that way but if I felt really strongly about something I would like to either confirm my suspicions or start leading arguments that I think can convince others to vote with me. So far, I think you've mostly sat here and said you're confident but frankly your arguments don't give me that vibe. I'm starting to think you don't believe your own bullshit as well.In post 2169, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 2154, unwnd wrote:
I just think that's really convenient to line up your reads like that. I think the only relation me and Noraa have is disliking you, but you're treating us within the similar range. I don't like this and I find your reasoning to still be half-hearted, especially with 'well it's d1 so I'm not gonna worry if I'm wrong I'm wrong'. There's nothing inherently bad about having confidence, but I seriously don't know where it comes from and why I'm justIn post 2146, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’ve already stated i think it’s more likely only 1 of you are scum, so i don’t get what you’re pushing with that “not a good look” thing.supposedto believe it.
It’s not my fault you guys see thatI’m confident.
Me being confident and me being confident on my Day 1 reads do not have to be together as you are pushing them to be.
You think I’m far more solid on the reads than I actually am,and it feels incredibly contrived or overreactions by both of you.
I am confident this game, that doesn’t mean I have to have the whole scum team caught Day 1. I’m working on progressing my reads and evolving them, having each connection become more complex until the game makes more sense. Flips will need to happen because their are plateaus.
If you're an experienced player, you do know what FUD is right. All I see is FUD from you lolProtect yourself from the back of your mind- Cobra Kai
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In post 1255, Guillotina wrote:Cakez wagon feels LHF, I'm not voting there now.
I'm gonna ISO the other wagons.In post 1398, Guillotina wrote:I'm definitely not voting Cakez today. The guy is getting pushed based on an evidence claim that Cabd cannot present due to site's rules.
In other words, if they cannot be presented they don't exist! Imagine if we could convict people based on non corroborated proof in real life! A lot more people would be in jail!
We gotta take his word for it? Like hell I will, I don't know this guy!
We either find real evidence to yeet Cakez or vote someone else.
Good night!In post 1685, Guillotina wrote:
Your post pings scum.In post 1639, Noraa wrote:
This post pings scum.In post 1394, Bell wrote:@cabd we could all easily be wrong.
Not only because you didn't elaborate why in the same post, so the intention was not bring awareness but to shade, but it also raises some questions.
Do you think we could all not be easily wrong? If so, why?
What information do you have to assume all people could be right? And if you think everyone could be right why did you vetoed Sircakez yeet?
For the record: im not saying everyone could be right or wrong, im saying that Bell got a point and throwing shade at Bell for it is scummy.
VOTE: NoraaIn post 1896, Guillotina wrote:
If you are this sure to bet your own life on it by compromising to self-vote. I'll bite.In post 1765, Cabd wrote:I will self-vote tomorrow if I'm wrong, which will reveal my info in a mod-confirmed way and put us down two town plus whoever dies to night kill but whatever. At least you'll have all the info. And see exactly why I am doing what I am doing.
Cakez man I am sorry RNG fucked you over bud but like, we can hug after your team shoots me night one in the dead thread and make up and play footsies.
If he flips green with an important ability, i'll be mad. Crown Prince level mad.
VOTE: SirCakez
It’s this trajectory for me. It looks like they know Cakez is town, but want you to push through it while it’s known they were against it, but then they jumped on both Noraa and Cakez. I think Noraa looks like a bus vote, but then it got hot, so they finally accepted they will need to join Cakez.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I have yet to see Cobra Kai manslip.
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In post 763, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:In post 761, Flavor Leaf wrote:Acting in bad faith, Gamma, you the one out here yelling to policy obv town Battle Mage, could you tell I was leaning scum on you here, so you had to turn it on me because you noticed me not defending. I was trying to stay out of it because I’ve misread you a decent amount recently,In post 765, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:In post 764, Cabd wrote:Oh shit does LLD have a posting restriction?XIn post 794, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:In post 792, Gamma Emerald wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84467
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=84480
Read me in both of these and tell me if you think I handle a second of being scum with BM after I made up my mind on him.
In addition, curious why people are voting me at this point. I have given reads, so what’s the fucking deal?
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I wanna fight for you but honestly at this point its post humous.In post 1759, SirCakez wrote:Hard to believe I was excited for this game 24 hours ago
This has been one of the most miserable mafia experiences in my six yearsplaying
If you flip town Cabd is gonna die. That is my promise to you.
Sorry.
And for Lady, they had hard Gamma rage, posting style is short and limited, they joined Noraa early, Noraa got hot, then moved to Cakez. Extremely similar. They act like Cabd gonna die if Cabd misfades SirCakez.
So Guillotina and Lady are in the same boat, similar trajectory.
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We all know you're Ralph Macchio.In post 2190, Cobra Kai wrote:In post 35, Cobra Kai wrote:I’m not playing guess who. If I mainslip then great for you guys! But I’m intentionally playing a different style so meta wont so much good for you.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I don't think this is terrible, what are your thoughts on other topics that haven't really been talked about? Someone like Firebringer/l4pe/Beeboy/Dunn; You told me you thought Brian was null last we talked because he wasn't fluffingIn post 2191, Flavor Leaf wrote:In post 1255, Guillotina wrote:Cakez wagon feels LHF, I'm not voting there now.
I'm gonna ISO the other wagons.In post 1398, Guillotina wrote:I'm definitely not voting Cakez today. The guy is getting pushed based on an evidence claim that Cabd cannot present due to site's rules.
In other words, if they cannot be presented they don't exist! Imagine if we could convict people based on non corroborated proof in real life! A lot more people would be in jail!
We gotta take his word for it? Like hell I will, I don't know this guy!
We either find real evidence to yeet Cakez or vote someone else.
Good night!In post 1685, Guillotina wrote:
Your post pings scum.In post 1639, Noraa wrote:
This post pings scum.In post 1394, Bell wrote:@cabd we could all easily be wrong.
Not only because you didn't elaborate why in the same post, so the intention was not bring awareness but to shade, but it also raises some questions.
Do you think we could all not be easily wrong? If so, why?
What information do you have to assume all people could be right? And if you think everyone could be right why did you vetoed Sircakez yeet?
For the record: im not saying everyone could be right or wrong, im saying that Bell got a point and throwing shade at Bell for it is scummy.
VOTE: NoraaIn post 1896, Guillotina wrote:
If you are this sure to bet your own life on it by compromising to self-vote. I'll bite.In post 1765, Cabd wrote:I will self-vote tomorrow if I'm wrong, which will reveal my info in a mod-confirmed way and put us down two town plus whoever dies to night kill but whatever. At least you'll have all the info. And see exactly why I am doing what I am doing.
Cakez man I am sorry RNG fucked you over bud but like, we can hug after your team shoots me night one in the dead thread and make up and play footsies.
If he flips green with an important ability, i'll be mad. Crown Prince level mad.
VOTE: SirCakez
It’s this trajectory for me. It looks like they know Cakez is town, but want you to push through it while it’s known they were against it, but then they jumped on both Noraa and Cakez. I think Noraa looks like a bus vote, but then it got hot, so they finally accepted they will need to join Cakez.
Despite my claims against you, I almost always want someone to be town. I enjoy dunking scum but I rely on how much I trust the people around me, and get frustrated when I don't. Suffice to say, I don't really trust many people.Protect yourself from the back of your mind- Cobra Kai
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