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[Flavor Leaf]

I am town no matter what fuckery is going on.

If you’re Loyal claim now, because if you are you’d be scum with Koba

They already claimed it.

I specifically said implied.

Pay the fuck attention, and stop misrepping.

Wait, hard claim. Yes or no?

Are you Loyal or no?

Damn. You put forth a situation that forced me to out my Loyal or not.

[DkKoba]

its moreso it was really obvious i messaged DGB bc i insisted on mark claiming and andres wouldnt stfu about me claiming first

[DkKoba]

theres also the possibility that there was a code somewhere that another scum with a report already outted.

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t really trust you right now Kkoba. I think that the multitasking gambit, if it’s a gambit, is a solid and safe gambit to make.

My initial thought on reading it I wanted to vote you, but Andres completely got everything they wanted out of the gambit, including me full claiming, safety for Marky Mark, and likely a Kkoba fade.

I might have underestimated ScumAndres.

[VP Baltar]

its moreso it was really obvious i messaged DGB bc i insisted on mark claiming and andres wouldnt stfu about me claiming first

I'm not following this. Mark claimed first like you wanted. How does that implicate Andres in anything?

[Flavor Leaf]

its moreso it was really obvious i messaged DGB bc i insisted on mark claiming and andres wouldnt stfu about me claiming first

I didn’t pick this up, but I was focused on Andres pushing me too much.

[DkKoba]

its moreso it was really obvious i messaged DGB bc i insisted on mark claiming and andres wouldnt stfu about me claiming first

I'm not following this. Mark claimed first like you wanted. How does that implicate Andres in anything?

because mark was able to claim safetly after a bunch of people hardclaimed info.

although maybe thinking it back its probably just a mechanical play from a scum investigative that knew where i was going. idk at this point. feels like the same shit like when u guiltied me in our last normal

[DkKoba]

also we are not voting outside of myself/mark today, at least if i die its a conf scum even tho we have infinite lylo(plus it removes a nightkill path after flavor dies)

[VP Baltar]

its moreso it was really obvious i messaged DGB bc i insisted on mark claiming and andres wouldnt stfu about me claiming first

I'm not following this. Mark claimed first like you wanted. How does that implicate Andres in anything?

because mark was able to claim safetly after a bunch of people hardclaimed info.

although maybe thinking it back its probably just a mechanical play from a scum investigative that knew where i was going. idk at this point. feels like the same shit like when u guiltied me in our last normal

Hm.

I mean, our game was Xylo and I was directly guilting you to win that day. If that's the case here, seems risky since we'd flip you and then know for sure Mark was lying tomorrow, right?

[Flavor Leaf]

its moreso it was really obvious i messaged DGB bc i insisted on mark claiming and andres wouldnt stfu about me claiming first

I'm not following this. Mark claimed first like you wanted. How does that implicate Andres in anything?

Marky Mark has a big chance of going down today. I came into the day phase less sure of them than I was yesterday. DGB and Kkoba both voted there.

Andres came in and protected them, and then pushed us to claim our actions before coming in. Marky Mark came in and essentially saved Andres and reset the day.

It also had me confirm whether or not I was Loyal because I thought Kkoba was scum. I’m still thinking if I think that’s possible, but I had a glass shattering moment when Kkoba came back.

Andres and Marky Mark played this off well.

They have myself, DGB, and VP as misfades still, and Jackson, Not Mafia, and A50 aren’t off the table.

One of those are a partner.

Andres saying A50 was cleared makes me think A50 is the partner, and that’s why they killed Infinity. He thought they were targeting A50, who out of the 3 of them would be making the kill probably. Mark seems like a Scum PR, maybe even has Multitasking. Andres could be Scum PR, or goon.

[DkKoba]

well the payoff is u get both investigatives dead and then u have lylo the rest of the game.

[Andresvmb]

Flavor has irretrievably tied themselves to Koba with all this. So if we for some dumb reason decide to flip Marky Mark, and they flip Town, you have 2 caught Scum right then and there. But we really shouldn’t. There’s too much upside to keeping Mark around and nuking Koba. So we won’t do that.

[DkKoba]

in no world does town ever decline a 1 for 2 trade if thats what they believe it is

[Flavor Leaf]

I would never tie myself to Koba this way if I were scum with them.

[DkKoba]

im starting to see the universes a bit more clearly

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, this was their play to get rid of what they thought were conf towns.

They had to do it because I was pushing Andres.

[Andresvmb]

Also, I’m somewhat confused as to why Koba decided to visit DGB. Marky Mark, you claimed DGB as the Target yesterday right? Or did you change it?

[Andresvmb]

I would never tie myself to Koba this way if I were scum with them.

You have no choice at this point.

[Flavor Leaf]

Why would ScumDkkoba target DGB with a message when that was confirmed to be getting checked?

Also, Andres pushed DKK and DGB together, why would ScumDKk send a message to ScumDGB?

Andres and Marky Mark are scum here.

[Flavor Leaf]

I would never tie myself to Koba this way if I were scum with them.

You have no choice at this point.

I’m not scum, so fuck off.

[VP Baltar]

That feels like a very big brain play when taylor was saying Mark!scum spaghettied all over himself last time. Why isn't Koba just scum here, FL?

[Flavor Leaf]

That feels like a very big brain play when taylor was saying Mark!scum spaghettied all over himself last time. Why isn't Koba just scum here, FL?

Why would ScumKoba send a message to DGB when that was the dedicated confirm action slot?

[Andresvmb]

Also I know I’m right because Flavor is painting a ridiculous world where I’m the center of the Scum Team and I’ve brilliantly been covered by my Partner with an exact Claim and some genius trap to reveal whether the Friendly Neighbor was Loyal or not.

[Flavor Leaf]

That feels like a very big brain play when taylor was saying Mark!scum spaghettied all over himself last time. Why isn't Koba just scum here, FL?

Marky Mark isn’t the big brain that I would be saying it is.

I would be saying it’s Andres’ play through usage of Marky Mark, which makes sense as to why Marky Mark came in and left like that.

[DkKoba]

people forget we're playing against an informed minority who likely have tools to be able to come off as genuine.


this isnt even like me just flipping a townread on mark i was scumreading them since d1. i consistently catch at least 1 scum on d1. im not perfect but as soon as mark tried to pivot onto NM in that post i had that gut feeling they were scum for sure. I misplayed d2 when i thought i had caught them as scum pr (which i see i did after all). If I was scum, i would have claimed loyal and just had him taken care of. i play suicidal as scum. its a chat mafia habit. im not into the long game shit. i set up my partners and call it a day.

like just look at the boardstate starting d2. i immediately see that DGB confirms they got my message. perfect.

i then am hopefully waiting on mark to scumslip. then andres comes in and INSISTS that everyone claims actions EXCEPT for mark.

like im so frustrated that my simple play just got ruined and im not even sure if its from town or scum now bc i definitely had andres pinned as town earlier but his actions daystart here are just.. wow. just feel like hardclaimed scum.