Open 800 - Donner Party | Game Over

[Marashu]

Official Vote Count 1.11

Elimination

With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate someone.

superbowl9

(6): DoubtingThomas, Gamma Emerald, Aristophanes, Tayl0r Swift, Guillotina, catboi

Doubting Thomas

(4): Battle Mage, JohnnyFarrar, superbowl9, chkflip

Chaos Triforce

(1): pob long

Gamma Emerald

(1): Chaos Triforce

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-11-21 10:30:00).

Mod notes:

• Battle Mage V/LA (vacation/limited access) for 1-2 days

[pob long]

Alright what in the heck is going on here

[pob long]

johnnyfarrar is ignoring me

[pob long]

I am sorry im' late. in the morning I will catch up on everything, after making my famos brunch sandwiches

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hi pob

[superbowl9]

My issue is I still don't understand why your emphasis is on breaking up a group of players vs actually finding scum. You have all this concern over the DT/Guillo/Gamma group but the only points you raise against them are being problematic later in the game, not actually being suspect. I don't understand why that's your fixation like it's going to be some game dominating force when there's a decent chance some of them just die.

My question to you is sure this may not be conventional but

how does this lead to the conclusion of me being scum?

Is it my way of setting up a chain policy elim because in what world does that EVER work? My goal is to elim one of the three so that we don’t have a loud townblock doing all of scum’s heavy lifting for them (why would scum EVER kill this??? And based off my read vigi will not be doing so either.)
In my mind the longer I ignore them and try to push elsewhere, the more influence they will gain as town grows smaller. That being said I’m down to go elsewhere if this approach isn’t popular, I’m not unreasonable. However apparently that’s viewed as target switching as well - now I’m “willing to elim the whole PL”. Either way people will find a reason to scumread me. I think my unconventional play has pinged people and they just slap a scum label on it but I’ve yet to hear an answer as to why my outlined strategy would be beneficial to employ as scum

[catboi]

I'd rather you just tell me who you think is actually scum.

[superbowl9]

Oh yeah one other thing that got deleted from my first version of my post cause mobile -.-

I’ve given my scumcall if you ISO me, and I think one of those three has a chance to be scum, it’s not like I’m policying them as I have strong TRs on all 3. I just think it’s the best way to actually catch scum, because we won’t be having to work against these 3 votes/voices, whether they’re coming from town or scum.

And STILL the argument here is that I’m playing unconventionally.

how is this leading to the conclusion of me being scum

? Aren’t you doing exactly what you’re critiquing me of? “You’re not doing what I like so take my vote”?

[superbowl9]

1348 btw cause i hate when people make me dig through their isos

[Aristophanes]

1348 btw cause i hate when people make me dig through their isos

That's

*checks notes*

Half the playerlist!

It's also not convincing.

Also, when you say PL you mean playerlist and when I say it I mean Policy Lim, or so it seems. Not sure if we've had miscommunications based on that.

You wanted to Elimjnate Guillotina for getting in the way, not for being scum.

You want to break up a "townblock" because you worry about their competence, not because yku think they are scum.

Have you made a scum case for any of your scumreads? I haven't seen one. You won't convince anyone on a player being scum unless you case them. Youve tried it and look where we are. So

whi are Guillotine, DT, and Gamma your top scumreads? What about

[Aristophanes]

Fuck I misclicked and posted.

what about the Ari/chick/catboi throwaway reads?

You keep asking about agenda and reason for doing it. What is your master plan. Etc. It looks to me like you want to live through D1 and also eliminate a towny. That's scummy enough as a motivation.

[Aristophanes]

And to answer your post response earlier, the only parts that seemed to need a response were
1. The Taylor scumbuddy read.
Sure, it's not high play. We don't all make high play moves. And I'm sumply noting it. If you flip town it goes out the window obviously. But it would be negligent of me to not note it.

2. The Guillotina vote in response to the post I called out for preshading the answer.
Well, you basically told her you weren't going to work with her in your words and tone there. I don't know if a vote would have been my response but I'd probably not have been very responsive.

3. Breaking up a grip on the game regardless of reads.
This is bad and potentially scummy play. If there is scum in their mix, they'll give us reason to question them eventually. If they are all town and are leading the game, they will eat an NK eventually. Your strat is bad and potentially scummy.

Your WIFOM of "scum wouldn't do this" sucks as well.

I'm sorry, but I am unconvinced and my vote remains.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm ready to end this day as long as we don't shift to something unbelievably stupid
Noraa you wanna post intent?

[Guillotina]

Lolwolves for pushing Ari's yeet because he was V/LA

Gonna lurk now so i can help tmrw lmk who we mislim

This here. I dont know if he is aware of the mistake here. “lmk who we

mislim

”.

mislim means wrong elimination lol

[DoubtingThomas]

if pob and chaos are mafia they hammer superb here

[DoubtingThomas]

i think even if they are team w superb. to get some sort of cred

[DoubtingThomas]

their reluctance is townie regardless of superb's alignment

[Chaos Triforce]

Has superb even claimed yet?

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

I dont have a solid read on superb and my partner hasn't voiced an opinion so no, I won't be hammering this.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

I'm ready to end this day as long as we don't shift to something unbelievably stupid
Noraa you wanna post intent?

I mean, not particularly cuz I'm not interested in hammering anyways :/
when's deadline? if close tho, I declare intent. If not, then I did nothing.

-norbear

[Chaos Triforce]

oh jeez not like that. noraa's my mafia sister.

[chkflip]

Why is this wishy washy bullshit still breathing in my gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.

Intent to not hammer erbow.

[catboi]

I'm ready to end this day as long as we don't shift to something unbelievably stupid
Noraa you wanna post intent?

I mean, not particularly cuz I'm not interested in hammering anyways :/
when's deadline? if close tho, I declare intent. If not, then I did nothing.

-norbear

The deadline's on this page, just under 3 days. You have a stale vote on gamma that no one is following. Even if you don't agree with this vote your current one isn't doing anything.

[catboi]

Why is this wishy washy bullshit still breathing in my gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.

Intent to not hammer erbow.

You mean chaos?

[Chaos Triforce]

my gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.

u got it wrong. I'm the queen here

*kicks u off my throne*

-nornorthequeen