Death Curse Spectator/Dead PT NOW WITH 100% MORE NERO

[Gloria Cleary]

They're mostly [finally] reassessing every slot, Fidget has been voted, her intent is MC or Pooky, and they're going to scroll each other apparently.

If she scrolls Pooky, it’s 100% game over. No way he doesn’t scroll MC.

[Gloria Cleary]

Yeah that's good enough for me, even without the emotional stuff. I don't think scum Noraa feels comfortable selling out her team and being trusted to win the game.~MC

O.o

[Gloria Cleary]

I demand a refund btw. This thread promised 100% MORE Nero, and I haven’t seen any Nero at all.

Spoiler:

WARNING!!!

This thread contains false advertising.

Where is my NERO???

[UNOwen]

Looks pretty grim now. Maybe there is a chance Pooky is not as committed to the MC mutually assured destruction as he is making out?

[Gloria Cleary]

Looks pretty grim now. Maybe there is a chance Pooky is not as committed to the MC mutually assured destruction as he is making out?

If he hard tr both Noraa and Bell and if even Bell now trs her over MC, then why wouldn’t he be? I mean we can hope but I think his scroll here more than anyone else’s for sure loses us the game. If no one thinks Noraa could ever be scum here, not even Bell than Idk. Both of them are sr each other, so I don’t see much room for hope.

[UNOwen]

He might have noticed that MC is leaving himself no way out?
His last post is kind of strange if he thinks MC is scum, because they're the only other player Fidget is considering so he should want her to scroll there.

Think you're right though, I'm probably just overthinking it trying to find some sort of hope.

[Gloria Cleary]

He might have noticed that MC is leaving himself no way out?
His last post is kind of strange if he thinks MC is scum, because they're the only other player Fidget is considering so he should want her to scroll there.

Think you're right though, I'm probably just overthinking it trying to find some sort of hope.

If everyone including it seems Bell now is sold on Noraa!town, there probably isn’t much hope. If they don’t want the other one scrolled, they aren’t exactly going out of their way to see reasons to tr the other. Rn, it’s looking to me like a slow macabre dance to the death. :/

[Theta Alpine]

huh

8550 from pooky makes me wonder
if pooky plans on shooting bell or noraa

pooky would not be able to voice that opinion openly because then he would not get the scroll second like with what happened to unowen
but with pooky asking for the scroll combined with a few of his other recent posts i wonder if pooky suspects noraa or bell instead of murdercat

[Syryana]

Pooky now has the scroll.

Queue suspenseful music.

[fferyllt]

Oh fun!

[Gloria Cleary]

Pooky now has the scroll.

Queue suspenseful music.

He’s almost certainly shooting MC. :/

[Cabd]

Odds of scum win~ 80-85% IMO

[Gloria Cleary]

huh

8550 from pooky makes me wonder
if pooky plans on shooting bell or noraa

pooky would not be able to voice that opinion openly because then he would not get the scroll second like with what happened to unowen
but with pooky asking for the scroll combined with a few of his other recent posts i wonder if pooky suspects noraa or bell instead of murdercat

If he shoots Bell, we’re probably losing to because Bell is more paranoid of MC now than Noraa. Unless he was bluffing?

[Syryana]

Uh, if he shoots Bell, you lost.

[Gloria Cleary]

Odds of scum win~ 80-85% IMO

I think that’s extremely optimistic. I’d bump that up to closer to 95%.

[Gloria Cleary]

Uh, if he shoots Bell, you lost.

Yeah right, D’oh. Yeah it’s Noraa or we’re done.

[Syryana]

Odds of scum win~ 80-85% IMO

I think that’s extremely optimistic. I’d bump that up to closer to 95%.

I'd kind of agree to this, except it's Pooky. Pooky alone is enough of a wild card to drop 10%.

Of everyone in this playerlist, I absolutely see him being the one going on about Queen Noraa then shooting her in the face with a last minute galaxy brain solve. Or at least higher than whatever level of brain let her into conf-town status. That alone was town's worst play this game.

[Gloria Cleary]

Odds of scum win~ 80-85% IMO

I think that’s extremely optimistic. I’d bump that up to closer to 95%.

I'd kind of agree to this, except it's Pooky. Pooky alone is enough of a wild card to drop 10%.

Of everyone in this playerlist, I absolutely see him being the one going on about Queen Noraa then shooting her in the face with a last minute galaxy brain solve. Or at least higher than whatever level of brain let her into conf-town status. That alone was town's worst play this game.

That scum LLD scroll was a risky but brilliant gambit, I doubts she’d be viewed as locktown otherwise.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

Yeah, agreed on Noraa-locktown being a crap play. Honestly, I just locktowned her early because I was getting those gutpings. I never really updated because I trusted in her later game abilities as town and distrusted her later game play as scum, and when I had my shot I /had/ to hit red and I had to try and set things up for a town win in the endgame, so I couldn't take a Noraa (or more likely at that stage, a MURDERCAT) gamble and I thought my best bets were to misdirect and trust in town collapse under mechanical pressure rather than telling the townbloc to disperse and trust in them listening.

I was worried about Gloria forcing a townbloc to stick together, I was worried the scum would hit keystone townies like UNOwen (fool I am there), I was worried about town hitting LHF in the endgame when they needed to galaxy brain. I thought that just spilling anxiety would have made my message look like trash, so I projected confidence in a plan I thought would kill the townbloc in the end by demoralizing everyone and causing panic and in-fighting.

Well, that was a mistake and I definitely misread the town. I should have hammered the UNOwen Town thing in harder, I should have left more doubt in the rest of the townbloc, I should have more loudly and aggressively pushed my deepwolf concerns instead of trying to force town to break apart in the endgame, I should have done a whole bunch of things. I thought I had a different amount and variety of influence and sway than I did, and I thought the town was easier to manipulate emotionally than it was. (Really, in hindsight, the only players I could have banked on getting hyperemotional were Gloria and Tayl0r. Tayl0r went down fast, and Gloria was too optimistic in the end. I misjudged Bell, Pooky and MURDER as being susceptible to that kind of manipulation for varying and apparently incorrect reasons.)

Lessons learned. I'd like to try this setup again sometime.

[Titus]

Ya know it’s really easy to criticize from the dead thread.

Spoiler:

Tayl0r townlocked her and then there was the LLD scroll. so scum took a serious risk with that.

Spoiler:

The LLD scroll was a rare mechanics misplay from me. It was supposed to be that because LLD hated voted or FoSed that game day, mafia got to choose. Instead, it went back to start. Luckily LLD returned.

[Gloria Cleary]

Ya know it’s really easy to criticize from the dead thread.

Spoiler:

Tayl0r townlocked her and then there was the LLD scroll. so scum took a serious risk with that.

Spoiler:

The LLD scroll was a rare mechanics misplay from me. It was supposed to be that because LLD hated voted or FoSed that game day, mafia got to choose. Instead, it went back to start. Luckily LLD returned.

. Wow, so it was an accident?

[Syryana]

Yeah, agreed on Noraa-locktown being a crap play. Honestly, I just locktowned her early because I was getting those gutpings. I never really updated because I trusted in her later game abilities as town and distrusted her later game play as scum, and when I had my shot I /had/ to hit red and I had to try and set things up for a town win in the endgame, so I couldn't take a Noraa (or more likely at that stage, a MURDERCAT) gamble and I thought my best bets were to misdirect and trust in town collapse under mechanical pressure rather than telling the townbloc to disperse and trust in them listening.

I was worried about Gloria forcing a townbloc to stick together, I was worried the scum would hit keystone townies like UNOwen (fool I am there), I was worried about town hitting LHF in the endgame when they needed to galaxy brain. I thought that just spilling anxiety would have made my message look like trash, so I projected confidence in a plan I thought would kill the townbloc in the end by demoralizing everyone and causing panic and in-fighting.

Well, that was a mistake and I definitely misread the town. I should have hammered the UNOwen Town thing in harder, I should have left more doubt in the rest of the townbloc, I should have more loudly and aggressively pushed my deepwolf concerns instead of trying to force town to break apart in the endgame, I should have done a whole bunch of things. I thought I had a different amount and variety of influence and sway than I did, and I thought the town was easier to manipulate emotionally than it was. (Really, in hindsight, the only players I could have banked on getting hyperemotional were Gloria and Tayl0r. Tayl0r went down fast, and Gloria was too optimistic in the end. I misjudged Bell, Pooky and MURDER as being susceptible to that kind of manipulation for varying and apparently incorrect reasons.)

Lessons learned. I'd like to try this setup again sometime.

You know, I really enjoyed watching you play. I'll be running a setup soonish (probably in a couple weeks) that you'd probably find interesting. Popcorn Mafia, but rebalanced to be less punishing for scum. Can send you a PM when it goes into signups/pre-ins if you like?

That goes for whomever in here likes setups like this.

[Syryana]

Oh man. I was right about Pooky going for the misleading galaxy brain.

But he thinks it's Bell. God help us all.

[Theta Alpine]

and now noraa is panicking that pooky is not going to instascroll murdercat

that might actually be tipping her hand too much

[Gloria Cleary]

Oh man. I was right about Pooky going for the misleading galaxy brain.

But he thinks it's Bell. God help us all.

I’m legit shocked that he thinks it’s Bell. Or maybe he’s hopefully testing for reactions?