Musician Mafia: Guitarists GAME OVER

[TiphaineDeath]

Leai was scum, you were scum, I've been saying for a while that the only reason you're not is one single vote where you were voting with two confirmed scum, and, honestly, I've talked myself out of that mattering.

[The Baker]

Vote Count 7.03

EVERYONE LISTEN TO THIS FIRE
WHAT A LEGEND

Spoiler:

davesaz (2): Grendel, TiphaineDeath
Almost50 (1): PookyTheMagicalBear
TiphaineDeath (1); Bambi Jay
pisskop (1): davesaz

Not Voting (4): Lavender, Gamma Emerald, Almost50, pisskop

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 votes to shred someone.
Day Seven ends on Friday November 27th at 10:30am EST in (expired on 2020-11-27 10:30:00)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Dave

C'est La Vie.

[Almost50]

She protected me from two NKs in the same night haha. Lavender is lock town for me

??? I -again- fail to understand. VS role could not have visited you. Gamma said he was the one calling the shots. But let's assume Gamma meant he "decided" the kill and sent NPOM to do it. Also Drew obviously tried to kill you. Now how did we still end up with 2 bodies? IF you are PGO then Lav should have also died. If you are some sort of a reflexive redirector then (a) you didn't need protection and (b) she was also redirected. (I'd also find a bit odd that the killers were redirected unto each other, but that's above your pay grade and mine).

Can you please walk me through this? Or maybe not. The game looks like it's about to end anyway, so I can wait.

Our kill works like a mafia nightkill. We send 1 person to do it. It was me N4 (iirc) and N5. N6 it was NPOM.

But I’m definitely thinking Bambi did something funny to the kills.

Maybe it's above my pay grade (I consider myself a novice moderator) but I don't see how NPOM showed as visiting someone and actually shot someone else. I "think" if I was redirected that a Watcher -say- would NOT see me visiting my "intended" target, but would see me visiting my new one. A Tracker would track me to the new target too. I'm not "positive" though.

Anyway, Pooky is also spot-on about the claim PK can recruit from beyond the grave. It doesn't make sense to make a role than will win regardless. Either he cannot do that, or he can recruit

until you are 3

and then can't recruit anymore regardless of what happens next.

[Almost50]

Here's the most logical post you'll get from me in this game:

I am your best shred option you have for today. (I OF COURSE don't want to be shredded, but -as I said- I am talking LOGIC here, so no BS)

It is NOT in my best interest that you shred Scum today (and especially so if there's only one Scum left alive, because that would mean the game would be over and I will have lost).

I

need

Scum alive to have a shot at winning tonight, so I will obviously NOT be voting anyone who "could" be Scum, regardless of how unlikely they may be.

My own shred pool is Bambi/PK (because I can't visit either again anyway), but NO SHRED also works for me.

So, from MY PoV I probably won't be voting, and from YOUR PoV I am an anti-Town role at this time.

[Grendel]

But... you'll lose if we flip you today?

Wouldnt you just hope who ever we hit is town, or there are more then one scum left, and then that somebody with kill power shoots you tonight?

[Grendel]

@Pisskop theoretically are you ale to recruit A50 now that you're down a member again?

[Grendel]

I'd much rather try and hit scum today then flip an indie. :/

[Grendel]

Unless this is a scum gambit to ensure he doesn't get flipped later?

...eh, idk that seems tin foilly. Its just such a gusty move for scum to go, "Im an anti-town indie everybody!" especially when things were leading up to a dave flip in so far rn. hmm

[Almost50]

But... you'll lose if we flip you today?

Wouldnt you just hope who ever we hit is town, or there are more then one scum left, and then that somebody with kill power shoots you tonight?

True & true. I said it was best to shred me

from TOWN PoV

, but certainly not from my own.

[Almost50]

Unless this is a scum gambit to ensure he doesn't get flipped later?

...eh, idk that seems tin foilly. Its just such a gusty move for scum to go, "Im an anti-town indie everybody!" especially when things were leading up to a dave flip in so far rn. hmm

There are 3 possibilities:

1- dave is Scum AND is the last one of them >>> Game over and I instantly lose
2- dave is Scum BUT there's another one >>> I still have hope
3- dave is Town >>> I still have hope

I am now weighing my options and revising my reads (based on mechanics that I now know). I dunno if I should be voting anyone at all. (Put yourself in my shoes and tell me what to do, if you can)

[Grendel]

Yeah, you're correct I think. If i had a role that relied on being NK'd to meet my win-con then I would no-vote here.

[Grendel]

Hey so Bright eye's fish was one of cults kills right?

Is it possible to divine who was the mafs intended kill was N4?

[Grendel]

I'm a loud alien. I targeted DGB Night 1, Starbuck Night 2, Bambi Night 3 and

dave Night 4.

Alright, I will accept what baker just posted as the cult not needing to be killed, in fact, it might even mean that their creation is a scum-ability rather than having an actual cult-leader lurking around.

I want targets from Lav and Pisskop please, and Dave and gamma should claim.

Yeeessss sirrrr
N1 - pisskop
N2 - BrightEyeFishy
N3 - DBG

N4 - DGB

N5 - Bambi-chan
N6 - Grendal

these are the only outed nk interfering/protective roles tmk. Bambi doesn't count b/c her night N4 ablity was making things loud.

Pluasible options:

1) Dave was the night kill, but protected by Galron
2) Dave was carrying out mafia's factional kill and got stopped by Galron
3) DGB was the night kill target and Lavender prevented it

-/-/--/-

option one is unlikely given that Dave wasn't widely TR'd in that time. Two, and three are pretty plausible.

I guess I dont have any new, or reinforced TRs. It definitely is keeping me hungering to see what Dave flips.

[pisskop]

@Pisskop theoretically are you ale to recruit A50 now that you're down a member again?

as long as i can recruit 3p, which afaik i can

[pisskop]

gonna be honest. i want bambis fullclaim. as in, i want them to state an explicit wincon

[davesaz]

what Dave flips

Vanilla shredder.

Don't forget that Bambi Jay's actions are supposed to be global.

[Bambi Jay]

gonna be honest. i want bambis fullclaim. as in, i want them to state an explicit wincon

I never even hinted at being 3p, so it's the town wincon of getting rid of all threats to town. Almost isn't a threat to town but he can be petty later and side with scum if he didn't get killed.

Then again I guess Almost wouldn't side with the people who never killed him. Or he'll side with whoever he likes more.

[pisskop]

So baby you’re going to holster tonight right

[Bambi Jay]

Who me?

Well I wouldn't have been using it every night if I wasn't Compulsive. Didn't feel like mentioning that part since that might've made me seem more sus.

[pisskop]

VOTE: dave

[Lavender]

I’m so sleepy lately, fell asleep so easily
Hm hm what to do
Dave said he didn’t get the alien message though

[Gamma Emerald]

how's that relevant
dave are you truly certain of that knowing what it looks like now

[davesaz]

I'm quite certain. I suppose there could be a mod error involved? But I don't really know anything other than what my PM said on replace in.

[Almost50]

So, I've been thinking..

We know that we are at either 5-2-1-1 (5 Town, 2 Cult, 1 Scum, and myself) or 4-2-2-1 (4 Town, 2 Cult, 2 Scum, and myself). If save is Town OR if there are 2 Scums, and with Cult recruiting (probably myself); tomorrow we are at 3-3-1 (assuming Scum shoot Town) OR 4-2-1 (assuming Scum shoot Cult). If 3-3-1 both Town and Scum must shred CULT (lest Cult reach 50% of the living players); but then Cult will recruit once more and still win. If 4-2-1 Town must shred correctly or lose (and Scum have already lost).

I have no problem with that if I'm culted (or NK'd), but what if I'm not??

If I was Town I'd probably have wanted to shred pisskop, if for nothing else then to verify his ability to recruit from the dead thread. If it's true, Scum will be practically forced to shoot Gamma tonight (and I know where to target to get shot too), so tomorrow will be 4-1-1 OR 3-1-2. If pisskop can NOT recruit after death Gamma is safe from both Scum AND Town (he's no threat to either) and it will be 3-1-1-1 or 2-1-2-1 (in this case Town has practically lost, because even with Gamma's vote they do not have 50% +1 votes)

Where am I going with this? I honestly don't know. I guess I was hoping there's only 1 Scum left, so if Cult can't recruit I still can win.

Right now (with dave as the shred) I am counting on pisskop recruiting me (or me guessing the NK correctly, which has proven to be a tough and confusing task)

Anyway, this is me prodging, but with actual game content