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Post Post #1525 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:23 pm

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If ABR is scum, i totally just gave him the game
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Post Post #1526 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:23 pm

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Worth it!!!
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Post Post #1527 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:25 pm

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thoughts on Nero?

He’s gonna push you as my buddy.
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Post Post #1528 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:25 pm

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Votecount 1.10

Pretentious (6) - NorwegianboyEE, Nero Cain, muh316, Tayl0r Swift, Gamma Emerald, NoPowerOverMe
muh316 (2) - Glitch, TheDuke
NorwegianboyEE (2) - Pretentious, Albert B. Rampage
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innocentvillager (1) - DrippingGoofball

Not voting (4) - Non lmh, TheGoldenParadox, Umlaut, Guillotina

(expired on 2020-11-29 10:00:00) remain until day end

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Post Post #1529 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:26 pm

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I've seen FL do this exact quickhammer thing as town. It's NAI guys.
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Post Post #1530 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:26 pm

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For you, Nero.

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Post Post #1531 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:26 pm

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VOTE: Norwegian

Now let’s fade scum.
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Post Post #1532 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:26 pm

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In post 1527, Pretentious wrote:thoughts on Nero?

He’s gonna push you as my buddy.
If Nero pushes me he's scum.
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Post Post #1533 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:30 pm

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the thing is when you flip scum everyone that unvoted you looks bad. Now you can certainly make the argument that players that unvoted you are more likely to be uninformed of your alignment while scum would be more likely to vote their buddy going down. I just don't think its the wisest play to just discount everyone that unvotes you.
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Post Post #1534 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:31 pm

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I really don't like how little resistance muh and Pretentious got. Seems like scum's designated mislynch.
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Post Post #1535 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:35 pm

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I don't think thats a very accurate description of the game. There has been a TON of resistance to a muh wagon and someone that tried to quickhammer a without a claim is just scummy as all fuck and its pretty dumb if you don't think EVERYONE will jump on that regardless of his alignment. Scum will buss him for town cred and decent town will think he's just scum.
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Post Post #1536 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:35 pm

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In post 1533, Nero Cain wrote:the thing is when you flip scum everyone that unvoted you looks bad. Now you can certainly make the argument that players that unvoted you are more likely to be uninformed of your alignment while scum would be more likely to vote their buddy going down. I just don't think its the wisest play to just discount everyone that unvotes you.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=83046

Flavor Leaf hammered his own townread in this game and I know he does it as part of his gimmick. Anybody who plays with him also knows this meta. How many games have you played with him?
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Post Post #1537 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:36 pm

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Post Post #1538 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:37 pm

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Such timing
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Post Post #1539 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:38 pm

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In post 1533, Nero Cain wrote:the thing is when you flip scum everyone that unvoted you looks bad. Now you can certainly make the argument that players that unvoted you are more likely to be uninformed of your alignment while scum would be more likely to vote their buddy going down. I just don't think its the wisest play to just discount everyone that unvotes you.
I’m not discounting everyone that unvotes me.

I’m discounting ABR for unvoting me.
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Post Post #1540 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:39 pm

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In post 1536, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1533, Nero Cain wrote:the thing is when you flip scum everyone that unvoted you looks bad. Now you can certainly make the argument that players that unvoted you are more likely to be uninformed of your alignment while scum would be more likely to vote their buddy going down. I just don't think its the wisest play to just discount everyone that unvotes you.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=83046

Flavor Leaf hammered his own townread in this game and I know he does it as part of his gimmick. Anybody who plays with him also knows this meta. How many games have you played with him?
Day 1 I don’t like to put high high stock into my reads to avoid the tunnel, so I like to move past Day 1 is all.

This is mainly just a Day 1, possibly Day 2 if necessary thing, for anyone who wants to push it as anti town. I have a tendency to town read the main wagons even if they are scum.
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Post Post #1541 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:39 pm

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Can Pretentious be scum here? Yes, absolutely. The quickhammer attempt wasn't town but for FL it's NAI.

My reasoning here is that if we lynch this slot and it flips town, we are handicapping ourselves on a massive scale. When I played scum last game, Boon was my biggest threat and I tried super hard to eliminate him at any cost. FL is a good player. He will prove useful and if he doesn't, we can yeet him later.
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Post Post #1542 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:40 pm

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The only way I see Pretentious helping this game is if we just take his word on his reads and he ends up being right.


He doesn't seem interested in collaboration at all.
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Post Post #1543 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:41 pm

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he's a fucking scummy claimed VT that's scum reading at least 1 town.
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Post Post #1544 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:42 pm

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Does FL have a history of changing personalities midgame?
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Post Post #1545 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:42 pm

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That last post is another reason why I’m comfortable calling ABR town. My style effected him, and nearly lost him the game.

He also knows that if I were scum here, I’d be pigeonholed, so I think we are going to end up with an incredibly strong town duo in the 2 of us that scum will have to kill off.
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Post Post #1546 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:42 pm

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In post 1254, Pretentious wrote:If I were scum, I’d just have teammates able to get me out of this before I got to L-1. I only can get this far when I am town.
This is exactly the type of crap you post as scum. I’m not letting you off for any of this.
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Post Post #1547 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:44 pm

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here's the thing. muh was unclaimed IF he was a town PR then Boon is 100% fucking over town. Its not a play that town should EVER make. Thus he is not town.
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Post Post #1548 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:45 pm

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In post 1544, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Does FL have a history of changing personalities midgame?
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12320813

Yep. Did so just recently even where I channeled my playstyle from 2014 day 1.

I also have done the exact same thing in every game I’ve ever played on as Pretentious because it’s hard to keep that posting style up.


Looks like we found the other scum in Gamma.

Gamma-Norwegian, Nero might be town, idk, I like being tunneled there but maybe just because it annoys them.
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Post Post #1549 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:46 pm

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In post 1547, Nero Cain wrote:here's the thing. muh was unclaimed IF he was a town PR then Boon is 100% fucking over town. Its not a play that town should EVER make. Thus he is not town.
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