Large Normal 230 - Game Over

[Pretentious]

here's the thing. muh was unclaimed IF he was a town PR then Boon is 100% fucking over town. Its not a play that town should EVER make. Thus he is not town.

@Taylor - You see what’s wrong with this statement from someone who’s known me for years? You noticed something about me from only a few games that contradicts this. Can you state what it is? I’m trying to see how obvious it is for you as well, is why I’m not straight up stating why. I will if need be.

[Pretentious]

here's the thing. muh was unclaimed IF he was a town PR then Boon is 100% fucking over town. Its not a play that town should EVER make. Thus he is not town.

Read the game I linked. He hammered the unclaimed

town cop

as town.

Lol, I deserve the situation I’m in right now, I definitely agree with that. Like I get why people can scum read me here, Nero, don’t get me wrong, I just am town

[Albert B. Rampage]

Have you guys really not played any games with FL?

[Nero Cain]

He hammered the unclaimed town cop as town.

y is he still allowed to play then? This is like playing against your wincon and is a bannable offense.

I think Boon is pretty likely to be scum anyways but we can chalk this up to policy. But Boon has already shaded everyone calling it a PL. Seems like Boon has covered all his bases.

[Gamma Emerald]

Can Pretentious be scum here? Yes, absolutely. The quickhammer attempt wasn't town but for FL it's NAI.

My reasoning here is that if we lynch this slot and it flips town, we are handicapping ourselves on a massive scale. When I played scum last game, Boon was my biggest threat and I tried super hard to eliminate him at any cost. FL is a good player. He will prove useful and if he doesn't, we can yeet him later.

He also nearly talked his way out of getting testing as confscum in the game replaced you in. Scum!him is a serious threat at any point.

[Nero Cain]

Like I get why people can scum read me here

I feel like this contradicts your "if you know me you should town read me" statement

[Albert B. Rampage]

He hammered the unclaimed town cop as town.

y is he still allowed to play then? This is like playing against your wincon and is a bannable offense.

I think Boon is pretty likely to be scum anyways but we can chalk this up to policy. But Boon has already shaded everyone calling it a PL. Seems like Boon has covered all his bases.

The worst part of it is he was townreading the unclaimed cop for the entire day for 2 weeks. He just hammered him because he could. It's his thing. You know it's NAI.

Can Pretentious be scum here? Yes, absolutely. The quickhammer attempt wasn't town but for FL it's NAI.

My reasoning here is that if we lynch this slot and it flips town, we are handicapping ourselves on a massive scale. When I played scum last game, Boon was my biggest threat and I tried super hard to eliminate him at any cost. FL is a good player. He will prove useful and if he doesn't, we can yeet him later.

He also nearly talked his way out of getting testing as confscum in the game replaced you in. Scum!him is a serious threat at any point.

He wasn't even close to talking his way out of it. Once the stats became public he got yeeted in a flash.

[Nero Cain]

Have you guys really not played any games with FL?

I've played with FL, still don't think he's town.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Have you guys really not played any games with FL?

I've played with FL, still don't think he's town.

Do you agree that when he's town, he's a priority threat to scum?

[NoPowerOverMe]

If FL plays as FL and not Pretentious I'd consider unvoting him.

[Tayl0r Swift]

here's the thing. muh was unclaimed IF he was a town PR then Boon is 100% fucking over town. Its not a play that town should EVER make. Thus he is not town.

@Taylor - You see what’s wrong with this statement from someone who’s known me for years? You noticed something about me from only a few games that contradicts this. Can you state what it is? I’m trying to see how obvious it is for you as well, is why I’m not straight up stating why. I will if need be.

ive seen you recently pass on an opportunity to hammer a fake-claim day 1, but ive also seen you pull quickhammers and other gambits plenty of times. i know you arent opposed to hammering unclaimed people. you go with your gut and do what you feel is right. im not sure about your alignment yet, and i dont like your push on norwee who i think is about as obvtown as norwee can be. that said ill UNVOTE: for now. im happy to go back to muh. nero is still scum but im not gonna push there myself. ill hop on the wagon tho.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Taylor is town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Appeal to Experience and OMGUS.

You seem a little overeager you call him out. Probably town, but check yourself.

[Nero Cain]

It's his thing. You know it's NAI.

it really shouldn't be a thing.

Once the stats became public he got yeeted in a flash.

yes, he became a burden to the town and got eliminated and scum won b/c of him.

Boon has successfully talked his way down to a PL but I think that was the whole point anyways-to make this a discussion about policy and wether or not it was good policy to eliminate him.

scum boon is consistent. his own words.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Norwee jumping on Muh at the end however, was not town.

[Nero Cain]

Do you agree that when he's town, he's a priority threat to scum?

no lol

[NoPowerOverMe]

Why would I check myself? Why would it be bad to call out scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm willing to wait and hear whether anyone who does know your play can back this up, but I can't put much stock in a tell that you're self-aware of.

I won 10 scum games in 2019, was on a 2 and half year scum streak in 2015-2017? I believe? Then went almost another 2 years after losing.

I have even written a scum guide in the Mafia Discussion forum if you’d like to check that out to see how I am as scum.

Lol. It seems like everytime Flavour get's pushed=
>They start talking about how epic their scum game is and how they wouldn't be failing this hard if they weren't town.

I feel like this is definitely more of a scum!FL thing
He tries to gaslight and deflect with stupid self meta arguments that either make no sense or border on trust tells.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why would I check myself? Why would it be bad to call out scum?

I’m just saying it’s probably gonna get obnoxious if you keep doing it. You keep dropping buzzwords against him, which makes you feel less credible.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I don't like to wallpost, so it's the easiest way to get my point across.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Guys.

Would it make sense if we just let them catch up and post their reads first?

We have plenty of time.

Nero/Gamma/NPOM, if Pretentious doesn't prove themselves useful in the next few days, I will vote them out myself. Let's cool it. We can always put our votes back on. They aren't going anywhere.

[NoPowerOverMe]

If we use that logic for Pretentious, shouldn't we use the same logic for Nero and Norway?

[Tayl0r Swift]

They aren't going anywhere.

except hell

[Albert B. Rampage]

If we use that logic for Pretentious, shouldn't we use the same logic for Nero and Norway?

how?

[NoPowerOverMe]

Encourage Pretentious to go after other targets besides Nero and Norway because I have some decent experience with them.