Of course - I have a back of the mind of mena because of the crappy entrance, hasn't found scum, not dead, and a difficult counterwagon to town but skitteR said he was a strongest townread so...
What is your gun-to-head solve? According to you there’s very likely 2 scum in {me, mena, s_s, hoopla}, and you really don’t seem convinced on mena, s_s, or hoopla. It looks worse knowing I’m town. Do you just have generic paranoia towards a bunch of slots or what’s up?
Of course - I have a back of the mind of mena because of the crappy entrance, hasn't found scum, not dead, and a difficult counterwagon to town but skitteR said he was a strongest townread so...
What is your gun-to-head solve? According to you there’s very likely 2 scum in {me, mena, s_s, hoopla}, and you really don’t seem convinced on mena, s_s, or hoopla. It looks worse knowing I’m town. Do you just have generic paranoia towards a bunch of slots or what’s up?
I mean that’s not what I said but sure say what you want it to mean. Also, not sure why you said I don’t seemed convince on ss given no qualifier same as you. I don’t think you’ve been towny at all so idrc what looks worse to you.
Like - it’s pretty transparent and easily discernible that I don’t have strong reads anywhere.
2 in {you, dave, peta, lilith}. If there’s 1 scum in there, and the rest are in {me, hoopla, mena, s_s} then there’s 2 in the latter group. I said you didn’t seem convinced on s_s because you said he wasn’t at the top of your elim list when asked about it by mena.
I get that you don’t have reads but I want you to get them. It’s frustrating to try to put in effort when everyone else has given up, and if town doesn’t try it makes it too easy for scum to hide.
now that we know there's no cop, i'm of the opinion we should full massclaim now, doc included.
there is no value in keeping the doc hidden because:
1) there is no cop (thus no innocents), with only N_M as a potential prob-town candidate worth protecting
2) we're in odd numbers, so a correct doc save doesn't even yield us an extra mis-elim
3) there is too much lingering haze, particularly around the N1 no-kill, that getting all the cards on the table would help the town's ability to collectively PoE. an extra exposed prob-town slot (doc) makes solving much easier as it rules out/minimises certain combinations of players
4) if there's no doc, this is info we need now, as it changes a lot of things
scum already knows the answer to the N1 riddle. we have a better chance of cracking the game by figuring that out, and that requires a massclaim. scum have also elected to hide the cop, so we know there will be a fakeclaiming scum amongst (dave, SS, infinity, peta, mena). a massclaim may be able to narrow down that field of the lying scum.
too much hinges on the lilith slot to properly solve, so we need to focus on that first, but in order to do that we need to massclaim. there's more to gain by massclaim at the moment than what we're giving up.
If Lilith is town, I'm absolutely floored that both of the top 2 picks went for a scum (IMO) role. Take a role with unambiguous results over one that leaves more questions than answers. Always!
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