Open 798 | PYPX/Y+I/M | Game Over!

[petapan]

bird and hoopla are offlimits today because they can't be redirector (drafted below tgp). the pool is exactly 4 people, and i can give pretty good reason why it's not me if nothing else

[Infinity 324]

Why is it not you?

It feels insane to say this but I guess we elim mena today

Pool of people who could be redirector: {me, mena, s_s, peta}

Seems insane because cop should normally go so early. Maybe s_s but

[Infinity 324]

Scum never takes 1-shot commuter right? So it's dave/peta or dave is town.

[davesaz]

And now you've caught up to why I'm so upset about the table we gave ourselves.
The only ways lilith and Mena can both be town is if scum deliberately no-killed (unlikely) or they were so afraid of Mena replacing in that they tried to NK there instead of a PR (also unlikely).
Lilith can be scum pretty much only if scum no-killed AND they tried to frame Mena. Even more unlikely.
If we had just listened to the guilty we'd be in a much better place.

[Infinity 324]

Sorry dunn

VOTE: mena E-2 I think

[Something_Smart]

Scum never takes 1-shot commuter right? So it's dave/peta or dave is town.

Nobody has ever (successfully) taken commuter. Scum has taken watcher but it's rare.

[Infinity 324]

Who's scum s_s?

[Something_Smart]

I don't know.

I townread everybody in the redirector group. Given that one of those townreads is clearly wrong, that makes me feel like my reads this game haven't been very accurate.

Probably my strongest townread at this point, aside from lilith, is peta for his little juke regarding the role he tried for. If he's scum with davesaz then it ties them together really hard, and if he's scum and davesaz is not then I don't see the benefit to removing him from the redirector pool for no reason.

[Something_Smart]

Annoyingly Infinity being scum and Menalque being scum both explain the no-kill equally well.

[Infinity 324]

I agree that peta is towny for that reason.

How likely do you think it is that mena and I are both town? That means scum tried to kill mena n1 to frame me, or lilith went for a no kill gambit, or something like that.

[Menalque]

I’m very confused by why dave’s claim makes him town?

[Infinity 324]

Peta went for 1-shot watcher. It's not a strong scum role (and neither is commuter) so dave having it means he's unlikely to be scum except with peta.

[Something_Smart]

How likely do you think it is that mena and I are both town?

Well, not very, because there has to be scum in the two of you plus peta and I just said that I think peta's town, AND it makes the no-kill make less sense (I guess it would be a frame kill in that case).

[Menalque]

Dave is scum, that seems pretty obvious

Best Bird is leaning scum but sadly not sure so if I am the flip today for what are genuinely unknown and confusing reasons so be it but ur prob gonna lose tomorrow or when the inevitable two scumpool slots are the ones you’re choosing between

Lilith is probably scum

Peta seems likely as scum here given this latest push on me? And the ATE now looks quite bad imo

I’m sticking with the infinity/S_S townreads even tho they both concern me a lot here

Hoopla is town

[Menalque]

I’m just going to trust skitt because she’s more competent than me

Anyway, I get to claim that I am a genius here either way because either I caught S_S/infinity/...NM? even tho I sheeped reads and we lost OR it is lilith/Dave/peta or BB and i get to claim I’m a genius for setting aside my ego and following skitter

[Menalque]

Win-win boiz

[Menalque]

Skitter, if I don’t self-hammer it’s only out of respect for you

[Menalque]

Oh and uncrowned and TGP actually

I have no regrets on DGB or dunn

[Infinity 324]

So scum went for a no-kill gambit?

[Menalque]

Oh wait maybe lilith is town? And this is (Dave/peta/really loooks like infinity but probably BB unless infinity did a really good acting job around the cop claim and skitter was totally wrong there too) trying to setup a chain misflip on her

[Menalque]

So scum went for a no-kill gambit?

Maybe? Or they tried to kill me? Or there’s a doctor who isn’t claiming and is false claiming VT or something else?

[Menalque]

Why is Dave town for claiming watcher?

[Something_Smart]

Why does peta-scum do his little gambit instead of just claiming he went for watcher from the start?

[Infinity 324]

Why does scum!dave pick 1-shot watcher? It's such a weak role

[Menalque]

Why does peta-scum do his little gambit instead of just claiming he went for watcher from the start?

I’m not even clear on what the gambit was exactly but I’m also high so maybe I’m missing something