Explosiva Mafia - GAME OVER

[M4yhem]

Last post was a response to Armlx, obviously.

Wow, look at them go!

[Crazy]

What's so great about killing lurkers?

Or am I missing a joke here?

[Battle Mage]

Why me, Coron?

You, because you are scum.

Coron, any reason why? And, how will that help us (scum are made up of people who have been here less than 2 years, and more than 2 years)

I just think that the psychology of the person who picked DGB is that of a person with less than 2 years on MS, but with significant experience. Also, I'm not saying that people with more than ~2 years of experience couldn't be scum, I just think it's less likely.

Please explain this psychology for me. And also

HoS: Coron

for trying to run up M4yhem.

BM

[Battle Mage]

What's so great about killing lurkers?

Or am I missing a joke here?

Are you their spokesman or something?

BM

[Battle Mage]

My role pm says different.

Can you expand on this 'psychology' or is it a secret?

I'm thinking whoever picked DGB will have played at least one game with her...unless it was random.

but lets face it. Given that there are numerous scum, and DGB gets about it, that doesnt really narrow us down alot

BM

[Battle Mage]

I agree with DoS and Coron, except I'm not sure a really strong experience player is in the scum group for reasons that if discussed would probably just direct scum "kills" better.

By good amount of experience I don't mean like you, me, DGB(well obv not DGB), etc, I mean like maybe BM, M4yhem, or Max. Who have played a good number of games but aren't super ancient like us.x. Who have played a good number of games but aren't super ancient like us.

have you got a stutter irl too?

BM

*Sorry, that was a bit harsh. If you do, i'll feel

slightly

guilty now.

[Coron]

Can you expand on this 'psychology' or is it a secret?

The slower people learn my magic tricks the longer I can use them. Also, in this case explaining why I think this involves explaining what an experienced(better), mafia member would do in this case, and so they would start enacting the plan starting tomorrow.

I'm thinking whoever picked DGB will have played at least one game with her...unless it was random.

I suspect this is correct.

unFoS: m4yhem

for now. I feel like his response was genuine.

[Battle Mage]

Can you expand on this 'psychology' or is it a secret?

The slower people learn my magic tricks the longer I can use them. Also, in this case explaining why I think this involves explaining what an experienced(better), mafia member would do in this case, and so they would start enacting the plan starting tomorrow.

I dont think this is majorly concerning. I'd still like to hear what you think an experienced player would do, because i don't want your comments to affect the course of the game without due examination.

I'm thinking whoever picked DGB will have played at least one game with her...unless it was random.

I suspect this is correct.

unFoS: m4yhem

for now. I feel like his response was genuine.

GOOD CORON! *Strokes chin*

BM

[M4yhem]

BM- Yeah, I know. For one thing, DGB has a reputation; I heard of her before I ever played with her. So I don't think we'll get anywhere trying to work out who would have set her up the bomb.

Crazy- Have you ever heard of 'lynch all lurkers'? Well, I agree with it. Town lurkers are a dead weight, scum lurkers are a deadly plague. Better to get rid of a lurker than someone active at this point; active scum trip over themselves more easily and killing one lurker will encourage the others to post.

Coron- You still haven't explained why you think the scum are experienced.

[Battle Mage]

BM- Yeah, I know. For one thing, DGB has a reputation; I heard of her before I ever played with her. So I don't think we'll get anywhere trying to work out who would have set her up the bomb.

Crazy- Have you ever heard of 'lynch all lurkers'? Well, I agree with it. Town lurkers are a dead weight, scum lurkers are a deadly plague. Better to get rid of a lurker than someone active at this point; active scum trip over themselves more easily and killing one lurker will encourage the others to post.

Coron- You still haven't explained why you think the scum are experienced.

I agree with the entirety of this post.

BM

[M4yhem]

Wow, by the time I post something it's already outdated.

Coron- If we're not allowed to know why you think the players are experienced, why did you say anything at all? Do you want us just to take your word for it?

[Coron]

Why would you FoS M4yh3m when he is obvtown?

explain this.

Please explain this psychology for me. And also

HoS: Coron

for trying to run up M4yhem.

kkdf;lxdo0ser9hjho949ekl;ds';
Ok, that right there had as much actual content as your post. Just sayin'.

have you got a stutter irl too?

BM

*Sorry, that was a bit harsh. If you do, i'll feel

slightly

guilty now.

Stutter? I have no idea what you're even talking about...

BM post all this shit in one post, Please, I'm tired of seeing three of your posts right in a freaking row.

I dont think this is majorly concerning. I'd still like to hear what you think an experienced player would do, because i don't want your comments to affect the course of the game without due examination.

You can take my suspicions with as much as a grain of salt as you want, but they are MY suspicions, and you can't make ME not take them into account.

Coron- You still haven't explained why you think the scum are experienced.

If you're wondering why I think at least 1 of the 3 scum have a reasonable(but not great) amount of experience, it's basically because DGB is a fairly decent choice for the bomber, but again, not one I think I extremely experience scum would pick.

[Coron]

EBWODP: I guess I want people to trust me partially on reputation, and also want to get people thinking about this. I also want to be able to point and say "See? I called it!" When the game is over. It's quite possible I'm wrong, in which case I might look a bit foolish, but I still think I'm right.

[Battle Mage]

Why would you FoS M4yh3m when he is obvtown?

explain this.

It seems pretty self-explanatory. And jesus christ! Can you try and organise ur quotes a bit better? My eyes started bleeding...

Please explain this psychology for me. And also

HoS: Coron

for trying to run up M4yhem.

kkdf;lxdo0ser9hjho949ekl;ds';
Ok, that right there had as much actual content as your post. Just sayin'.

Are you already sinking to insults? In case you haven't been reading, i still want an answer to the question.

have you got a stutter irl too?

BM

*Sorry, that was a bit harsh. If you do, i'll feel

slightly

guilty now.

Stutter? I have no idea what you're even talking about...

Do you often repeat yourself then?

I dont think this is majorly concerning. I'd still like to hear what you think an experienced player would do, because i don't want your comments to affect the course of the game without due examination.

You can take my suspicions with as much as a grain of salt as you want, but they are MY suspicions, and you can't make ME not take them into account.

If that was your main concern, you wouldnt have posted this shit in the first place. ftr.

BM

[Battle Mage]

EBWODP: I guess I want people to trust me partially on reputation, and also want to get people thinking about this. I also want to be able to point and say "See? I called it!" When the game is over. It's quite possible I'm wrong, in which case I might look a bit foolish, but I still think I'm right.

Did you REALLY just say that?

You want people to...trust you on REPUTATION!? 0.o

I'm lost for words...

BM

[M4yhem]

Well the only thing I know about you from the games we've played together so far, Coron, is that you have a tendency to lurk. So your reputation won't make much difference to me.

Getting people thinking though, is nearly always a good idea. I'm with you on that.

Why wouldn't an extremly experienced scum pick DGB? Because she's clever? Because she tends to get lynched?

[armlx]

rofl. So, that means the scum could be anybody...except you. amirite?

And me

I endorse the first paragraph of Coron's 131. And this.

BM post all this shit in one post, Please, I'm tired of seeing three of your posts right in a freaking row.

M4yh3m, lynch all lurkers fails as a lurker is more or less a random lynch, with random odds of being scum, which people who can be analyzed have odds that shift one way or another.

[alvinz95]

M4yhem, there is NO game rules on this thread (scum gives a bomb, and the townie blows up shit, thats all). A fos for people who don't understand is unecessary.

[M4yhem]

It's not random if you analyse all the other players carefully and decide they're probably not scum.

Also, day one lynches are often quite random. I'd rather kill a lurker than an active player today.

[M4yhem]

M4yhem, there is NO game rules on this thread (scum gives a bomb, and the townie blows up shit, thats all). A fos for people who don't understand is unecessary.

But there were rules on the sign up thread. If you signed up, you must have had a minimum understanding of the game.

[Coron]

It seems pretty self-explanatory. And jesus christ! Can you try and organise ur quotes a bit better? My eyes started bleeding...

I will if you organize your posts a bit better. Also, if you're going to say something explain what about the "organization" of the quotes is bad. I have them in the order that comments were posted in the thread.

Are you already sinking to insults? In case you haven't been reading, i still want an answer to the question.

In case it hasn't been made clear, or you didn't realize your question was asked before you asked it, it was already asked, I already have done all the answering I feel is in the best intrest of the town(and myself in the long term).

Do you often repeat yourself then?

When people ask me the same things over and over. Then I get angry at them and throw books.

If that was your main concern, you wouldnt have posted this shit in the first place. ftr.

BM

Your mom. Again, you're making completely unbased insults, so I'm going to return them to you. I feel that in mafia you let the other players know what you suspect whether or not you think that your stance will change their position. For instance I could say, I think BM is scum because he is not acting the same way I've seen him act as town in games I've been in, but rather is acting more like he does as scum. This is completely unprovable, personal, and antecdotal evidence, but that doesn't mean that I'm not going to post it.

Did you REALLY just say that?

You want people to...trust you on REPUTATION!? 0.o

I'm lost for words...

BM

Do I have a reputation for being a complete moron? I certainly hope not. If you want to see someone who played very well, and often times did good things when people followed him mostly based on reputation, look at some Internet stranger games. He was an excellent player that I can only hope to be 2/3rds as good as, or at least that's the party line.

Oh, and when I'm right this time, please remember it for next time. Thanks.

-Coron.

Well the only thing I know about you from the games we've played together so far, Coron, is that you have a tendency to lurk. So your reputation won't make much difference to me.

yeah, like I said, this crowd I don't really have a strong reputation in. I was gone when you guys were playing all the time, so it happens.


On lurker lynching, on analysing around 2/3rds of my own games, which admittedly were mostly minis, I found that I have fewer posts per game day as TOWN, and more as scum. Often times early game lurkers can be very useful in endgames. It's the people that'll get to endgames then lurk to death that really need to be lynched day 1, unfortunately there are few good predictors for that I know.

PS. Thanks for backing me up on those 2 point armlx.

[Battle Mage]

Well the only thing I know about you from the games we've played together so far, Coron, is that you have a tendency to lurk. So your reputation won't make much difference to me.

^5

Why wouldn't an extremly experienced scum pick DGB? Because she's clever? Because she tends to get lynched?

don't give him lifelines

BM

[Battle Mage]

rofl. So, that means the scum could be anybody...except you. amirite?

And me

Oh, that's ok then!

BM post all this shit in one post, Please, I'm tired of seeing three of your posts right in a freaking row.

we've had this discussion elsewhere. The overwhelming majority preferred numerous small posts to fewer massive posts. The rest of you can grow up.

BM

[Battle Mage]

M4yhem, there is NO game rules on this thread (scum gives a bomb, and the townie blows up shit, thats all). A fos for people who don't understand is unecessary.

But there were rules on the sign up thread. If you signed up, you must have had a minimum understanding of the game.

I havent read the sign-up thread rules. And i'm still not asking really dumb questions.

BM
Setting precedents

[Battle Mage]

It seems pretty self-explanatory. And jesus christ! Can you try and organise ur quotes a bit better? My eyes started bleeding...

I will if you organize your posts a bit better. Also, if you're going to say something explain what about the "organization" of the quotes is bad. I have them in the order that comments were posted in the thread.

No, i mean, you had them all bunched together with no spaces, so when i quoted your post to respond, everything was a massive block of text that i had to try and decipher.

Do you often repeat yourself then?

When people ask me the same things over and over. Then I get angry at them and throw books.

Ooh, i'm actually crapping myself. The power of books is NOTHING compared to the power of TEH INTERNETZ.

If that was your main concern, you wouldnt have posted this shit in the first place. ftr.

BM

Your mom. Again, you're making completely unbased insults

I'm not sure what's funnier. The fact you used a cool insult, or the fact you are making up words as you go along. rofl

I feel that in mafia you let the other players know what you suspect whether or not you think that your stance will change their position. For instance I could say, I think BM is scum because he is not acting the same way I've seen him act as town in games I've been in, but rather is acting more like he does as scum.

Really? Can you please post games to back this up? Because, personally, i cant recall 1 game we shared together.

Did you REALLY just say that?

You want people to...trust you on REPUTATION!? 0.o

I'm lost for words...

BM

Do I have a reputation for being a complete moron? I certainly hope not. If you want to see someone who played very well, and often times did good things when people followed him mostly based on reputation, look at some Internet stranger games. He was an excellent player that I can only hope to be 2/3rds as good as, or at least that's the party line.

I don't actually care. Whether you are a good player or not, is irrelevant. In case you hadn't noticed, this is a MAFIA game. The concept of Mafia is that there are a group called the 'Mafia', who you can't trust. They are baddies, and regardless of how good they are, their aim is to mislead you. You mustn't trust them.

That is the first thing anybody learns about Mafia. So why the hell do you think people will trust your opinions on grounds of intelligence, when you've given NO reason to suggest that you are protown? I actually feel insulted, not just for me, but on behalf of everyone else here you've just insulted. 0.o

Oh, and when I'm right this time, please remember it for next time. Thanks.

ugh. Grow up...

BM