Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

[REAGAN BUSH 84]

3020 is fair l4pe. I honestly shouldn't be engaging with Noraa either at this point while I'm at it.

[L4pe]

feels too little considering the fact that i still remember hes in the game :p

Do you normally make a lot a lot of filler posts then? I'm not seeing the purpose behind you saying that.

on occasion yes

Noraa you have zero chance of getting my head on a pike this game.

It's actually so low a number that representing it might cause buffer overflow!

underflow*

[Dunnstral]

I mean I guess it'd take them reversing their class claims completely, which is stupid to begin with, but 2-3 doing it is completely plausible, as are them being on a Day 1 wagon.

This easily gives multiple guilties in a single night lol

Mafia are unlikely to fakeclaim driver when they're really a blade, and vice versa.

This is

already confirmable

if a town driver targets a scum blade fakeclaiming driver. Note that there is no option to select

nobody

when asked to pair up,

you have to pick one of the drivers, or it selects automatically

This is something that already exists in the game without the role claim.

You're not wrong, and all 5 would be truly stupid, but given the existence of Driver/Blades and depending on how useful scum pairings are there are plausible incentives for a few to selectively fakeclaim.

i feel like discussing this situation is kind of stupid and i do wish you guys could focus on something more productive

i think youre both towny so this is a pointless argument

I'm not arguing that reagan is scum, so it's not a pointless argument

I'm arguing that noraa is town

[Firebringer]

lowkey cabd r u cheating?

[L4pe]

I mean I guess it'd take them reversing their class claims completely, which is stupid to begin with, but 2-3 doing it is completely plausible, as are them being on a Day 1 wagon.

This easily gives multiple guilties in a single night lol

Mafia are unlikely to fakeclaim driver when they're really a blade, and vice versa.

This is

already confirmable

if a town driver targets a scum blade fakeclaiming driver. Note that there is no option to select

nobody

when asked to pair up,

you have to pick one of the drivers, or it selects automatically

This is something that already exists in the game without the role claim.

You're not wrong, and all 5 would be truly stupid, but given the existence of Driver/Blades and depending on how useful scum pairings are there are plausible incentives for a few to selectively fakeclaim.

i feel like discussing this situation is kind of stupid and i do wish you guys could focus on something more productive

i think youre both towny so this is a pointless argument

I'm not arguing that reagan is scum, so it's not a pointless argument

I'm arguing that noraa is town

my bad, i thought you were arguing the earth was flat

its obvious youre not going to agree on whether this role is town or scum aligned so why not let the flip decide

[Noraa]

Mafia are unlikely to fakeclaim driver when they're really a blade, and vice versa.

disagree actually. I remember someone on day 1 was saying there were too many blade claims. That'd be a reason to claim driver from a scum stand point. Cuz its basically the equivalent of "if there's too much town power, all the vt claims have to be true" in a normal game.

President's argument that my role itself is scummy is stupid considering scum have fake claims so that would mean there's like no way to tell whether or not a person is scum by the claim ig?

It's a decent argument cuz its true it could potentially out multiple scum on day 1 but at the same time, most people only softed their claims on day 1, never full claimed. And there could be all sorts of weird shit like informed goons or something.

Idk if this makes sense but I feel like that was a TMI slip from Presidents.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You own my vote Cabd, so wherever you want it.

Also, Maria is town.

[Firebringer]

also lld and maria are town.

[Firebringer]

but i think my opinions here are worthless. just shouting into a void.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

lowkey cabd r u cheating?

I know you're joking but there is a history to this kind of comment wrt a bad person and using it to hurt cabd so maybe not that joke on this person please, thanks FB

[Noraa]

I'm actually just a blade with a semi-useless set of roles.

I mean, I can confirm this is true.

[Dunnstral]

its obvious youre not going to agree on whether this role is town or scum aligned so why not let the flip decide

Uh... why are you trying to shut me down? I'm arguing against eliminating noraa today

Why is it "obvious" that I won't agree?

[Brian Skies]

Also, MWNN originally claimed driver, then joked around that he was lying before crumbing blade later on in the game.

This claim from Noraa does nothing for me.

I also don't like that she thinks she is supposed to be town just for claiming PR.

[REAGAN BUSH 84]

Mmmm that's worth responding to for Dunnstral, I think your specific counterpoint undermines my doomsday one and reins it in a bit, but it doesn't change the fact that this seems like a scum counterbalance and very overpowered in the hands of town. Even if it's not a 2/3 guilty machine it still carries the potential and 1 is not unexpected at all.

I was already hardscumreading Noraa beforehand so even though I'm normally a very slow burn player, and still haven't voted personally, part of me really wouldn't mind seeing us speedrun the day.

[Cobra Kai]

Cabd what do you think of Reagan’s treatment of me this day so far

[Cabd]

lowkey cabd r u cheating?

What the actual fuck is wrong with you?

[L4pe]

Mafia are unlikely to fakeclaim driver when they're really a blade, and vice versa.

disagree actually. I remember someone on day 1 was saying there were too many blade claims. That'd be a reason to claim driver from a scum stand point. Cuz its basically the equivalent of "if there's too much town power, all the vt claims have to be true" in a normal game.

President's argument that my role itself is scummy is stupid considering scum have fake claims so that would mean there's like no way to tell whether or not a person is scum by the claim ig?

It's a decent argument cuz its true it could potentially out multiple scum on day 1 but at the same time, most people only softed their claims on day 1, never full claimed. And there could be all sorts of weird shit like informed goons or something.

Idk if this makes sense but I feel like that was a TMI slip from Presidents.

hey important note

this post really made me realize something but i want far more pressure on noraa to confirm it

can we please ramp up the noraa votes

[Firebringer]

lowkey cabd r u cheating?

What the actual fuck is wrong with you?

Not much, hbu

[midwaybear]

Really curious who this driver was...already have some suspicions
I am seeing some of Dunnstral's points about town flailing. Not completely sure though.

[Dunnstral]

I also don't like that she thinks she is supposed to be town just for claiming PR.

But not a scummy dislike, right? More of a personal distate for the play

Because I don't think it's scummy

[Noraa]

Noraa you have zero chance of getting my head on a pike this game.

Lmfao its not like I had a chance last game I was in with you where u tunneled me for no reason and I died day 1.

[Noraa]

I think Noraa's reaction to Cabd was a lot more concerned with asserting that Cabd & co. weren't all that great over genuinely trying to sort Cakez/Cabd. Their defensiveness was kind of fine? But I'm concerned as to why they're so concerned with shooting down other players' ego over just sorting them/the people following them, the concern is to win the game not prove Cabd is a moron.

The moment I voiced an opinion that didn't fit with his, he immediately just jumped at me. Thats not exactly welcoming.

[Dunnstral]

very overpowered in the hands of town.

No it's useless

Knowing who is a blade and who is a driver is probably useless for the scum team

[borkjerfkin]

lowkey cabd r u cheating?

This is not ok, and further discussion of this in game will result in your replacement as well as a report to the listmods.

Please see this thread for details: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=80293

[L4pe]

its obvious youre not going to agree on whether this role is town or scum aligned so why not let the flip decide

Uh... why are you trying to shut me down? I'm arguing against eliminating noraa today

Why is it "obvious" that I won't agree?

my bad, not trying to govern your pov here; typing without thinking so im not sure how to get the words out

but what i mean is, ultimately, if you do reach a conclusion, what good will it do