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Post Post #3125 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:12 pm

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Reading Guillotina's ISO I think this slot is town.

Cabd I'm sorry but I'm posting this before I get to your wall. I'll engage with it directly as I feel appropriate, but I think it's worth getting my general thoughts out there. Cobra's is difficult to respond to but I made one point below as I went through.

476 is the type of coaching I think might come from someone more experienced/confident like Nacho. It's tougher to tell with a player with a noticeably smaller toolset. They might still have one/two unusual tools in their arsenal. I was still open to it [Guillotina scum] here. Interactions with Maria/Fermis are kind of eh. Pocket not accepted is a fine post but nothing special.

1255 is really interesting. The Cakez characterization is natural for someone who just sees the wagon happening and Cakez, while not quite playing terribly was...definitely free, and many called him always miselim'd. Guillotina moves to analyze the other wagons.

1314 is strong imo. Gamma is probably town. Not actively hunting for a miselim here off of Cakez.

1357/1398 are pretty natural responses I think. Not trusting Cabd is pretty fine, and he just fundamentally misinterprets Cabd's point. Not +town but not +scum imo. Still not actively looking for a wagon until 12 hours later:

1685 is when he really starts pressuring/sorting others. 1685 defense of Bell/attack on Noraa is okay imo even if it's like, a single and not a homer. Worth noting he presses her for why she's opposing Cakez. I get why Cobra's a bit skeptical of the positioning here but I just...don't think it takes him this long to mount another vote if he really wants to defend Cakez. It's a solid single.

1885 is just inexperience with the playerlist and 1897 he comes around to realizing what Cabd is saying.

1293 rings honest to me and his replaceout makes sense in the context of not realizing how fastpaced the game would be. The explanation for Cakez doesn't 100% line up but I can see it.

I'm totally fine with this slot sitting in the townpile. I know Reagan also thought they were town, which gives me confidence, even though Reagan's reads some shit this game and I've enjoyed flexing on him
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Post Post #3126 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:13 pm

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Okay Cobra now you can push me for defending scum instead of runnin' em outta town
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Post Post #3127 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:14 pm

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In post 3123, Cabd wrote:Step 1: generate 22 town aligned flavor names
Step 2: Put those in alphabetical order
Step 3: Put that list into the list randomize function on random.org. The top 5 are now mafia fakeclaims.
Step 4: Design the roles and rest of the game
Step 5: Get 22 players to sign up.
Step 6: Put the player lsit in alphabetical order
Step 7: Put that list into the list randomize function on Random.org, the top five names are mafia.
okay
so town having bad guy flavor is unlikely but good guy flavor is a roll of the dice
I guess that annuls my survey thing?
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Post Post #3128 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:15 pm

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Your survey is more useless than the hearsay being presented as hard evidence in PA courts.
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Post Post #3129 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:15 pm

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VOTE: Guillo

This is obvious scum.

They actively tried to save Sircakez, and then bussed at the end. They hopped off Noraa.

Yesterday I said LLD and Guillo were the 2 I was suspicious of, i pushed LLD, and from that I believe Guillo to be scum here.
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Post Post #3130 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:15 pm

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I literally do not understand what anyone is seeing on Guillotina.

Is...is it a me problem?
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Post Post #3131 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:16 pm

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In post 3130, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:I literally do not understand what anyone is seeing on Guillotina.

Is...is it a me problem?
Maybe.
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Post Post #3132 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:16 pm

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Hi Flavor!
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Post Post #3133 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:17 pm

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I could also push Noraa.

VOTE: Noraa

Actually, that Flames kill is really damning to Noraa. Flames made my exact case that I had when I pushed scumNora, now they died because they were obv town and pushing Noraa.

Honestly, Noraa, Guillo, Maria is probably all scum.
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Post Post #3134 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:17 pm

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I’m 13 pages behind already, ugh.
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Post Post #3135 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:17 pm

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My enthusiasm for seeing Flavor Leaf is much less than that of Cabd's right now.
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Post Post #3136 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:18 pm

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Did you get any presents last night, Flavor?

I really hoped you'd help me trim the fat today so we could save ourselves the trouble.
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Post Post #3137 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:18 pm

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In post 3129, Flavor Leaf wrote:VOTE: Guillo

This is obvious scum.

They actively tried to save Sircakez, and then bussed at the end. They hopped off Noraa.

Yesterday I said LLD and Guillo were the 2 I was suspicious of, i pushed LLD, and from that I believe Guillo to be scum here.
VOTE: guillo
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #3138 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:19 pm

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Yes I did.

A little boonie told me "Mafia"
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Post Post #3139 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:19 pm

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In post 3135, Brian Skies wrote:My enthusiasm for seeing Flavor Leaf is much less than that of Cabd's right now.
Game's about to be solved, don't worry, Brian Skies.
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Post Post #3140 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:19 pm

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Post Post #3141 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:20 pm

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In post 3129, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yesterday I said LLD and Guillo were the 2 I was suspicious of, i pushed LLD, and from that I believe Guillo to be scum here.
I like this though. This makes me very happy.
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Post Post #3142 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:20 pm

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In post 3130, REAGAN BUSH 84 wrote:I literally do not understand what anyone is seeing on Guillotina.

Is...is it a me problem?
Yes. I'll post some quotes for you.
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Post Post #3143 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:20 pm

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Okay so... we will leave the thread open so we can partner hunt, Noraa is confirmed scum.

Which once again points to Guillatina slot partner equity.
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Post Post #3144 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:22 pm

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i havent been following recent pages

has nora explained how a 'driver' directed her action to the cakez wagon or is she claiming that's a 'special' ability or ?

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Post Post #3145 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:22 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 1255, Guillotina wrote:Cakez wagon feels LHF, I'm not voting there now.

I'm gonna ISO the other wagons.
In post 1398, Guillotina wrote:I'm definitely not voting Cakez today. The guy is getting pushed based on an evidence claim that Cabd cannot present due to site's rules.
In other words, if they cannot be presented they don't exist! Imagine if we could convict people based on non corroborated proof in real life! A lot more people would be in jail!

We gotta take his word for it? Like hell I will, I don't know this guy!

We either find real evidence to yeet Cakez or vote someone else.

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In post 1685, Guillotina wrote:
In post 1639, Noraa wrote:
In post 1394, Bell wrote:@cabd we could all easily be wrong. :P
This post pings scum.
Your post pings scum.

Not only because you didn't elaborate why in the same post, so the intention was not bring awareness but to shade, but it also raises some questions.

Do you think we could all not be easily wrong? If so, why?

What information do you have to assume all people could be right? And if you think everyone could be right why did you vetoed Sircakez yeet?

For the record: im not saying everyone could be right or wrong, im saying that Bell got a point and throwing shade at Bell for it is scummy.

VOTE: Noraa
In post 1885, Guillotina wrote:
In post 1751, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Cabd if Cakes flips town you die tomorrow okay?
In post 1752, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:That isn't a deal, it's just a promise.
That hell is this? A death sentence? If cakes flips green it does not mean Cabd is immediately scum. Town can be wrong. We put him under scrutiny and if he does not measure up we yeet him.

VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta
In post 1896, Guillotina wrote:
In post 1765, Cabd wrote:I will self-vote tomorrow if I'm wrong, which will reveal my info in a mod-confirmed way and put us down two town plus whoever dies to night kill but whatever. At least you'll have all the info. And see exactly why I am doing what I am doing.


Cakez man I am sorry RNG fucked you over bud but like, we can hug after your team shoots me night one in the dead thread and make up and play footsies.
If you are this sure to bet your own life on it by compromising to self-vote. I'll bite.
If he flips green with an important ability, i'll be mad. Crown Prince level mad.

VOTE: SirCakez


It's this trajectory. Guillo was saving Sircakes, and trying to act like they were LHF. They also joined Noraa, who I also have a scum case for, and was pushing hard yesterday for a bit. They then went to LLD only to end up on Cakez when it was obvious Cakez was going down.
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Post Post #3146 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:22 pm

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I kinda sorta want to fade Guillotina just so Bork doesn't have to look for a replacement.

But Nora's still scum.

LLD probably is too.
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Post Post #3147 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:22 pm

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In post 2945, Cabd wrote:
In post 526, Guillotina wrote:
That's the thing, I'm not a stranger.
Since apparently Midwaybear is fucking blind.
yeah that post is a bit problematic for guillo
but not for this game. I have other irons in the fire on that person
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Post Post #3148 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:22 pm

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In post 3146, Brian Skies wrote:But Nora's still scum.

LLD probably is too.
both of these suck imo
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Post Post #3149 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:23 pm

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gullotina is unlikely scum with nora

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