Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

[unwnd]

As someone who knows the flavor, she pretty much claimed without claiming.

And it's just outright awkward

[Cabd]

There are four broad classifications of roles: Driver, Blade,

Driver/Blade,

and Special

Btw this is public info, so Noraa waiting until now to have asked such an important question about this super duper exciting role? Even if she weren't already confirmed scum, this would be a bad look.

This is actually what caught bork in Illicit... not that ffery listened to me about it.

[REAGAN BUSH 84]

I didn’t expect to mind meld with Cabd this day phase and expected I’d have to do more to impart my will.

Maybe with 2014 era cabd you might have! Or maybe if I wasn't on like... a SHITTON of painkillers and feeling very go with the flow.

It's actually really hard not to just fullclaim and get this fucker to night two already but here I am being good.

what do we actually want to get done before we send this to night phase again? i'm fine w/ nora vote, that was the one read i had during the night b/c she DS'd the cakez vote

[unwnd]

It's not about the fact she forgot what her flavor was, it's just that it looks fabricated based on the way she said it. Her name is Poppy. I called her Poopie idk I don't know the flavor let me read my PM.

Christ

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, don't claim like Special or Driver/Blade, let's just claim links, maybe Blades should claim? I don't know how we should go about that.

[Dunnstral]

Yes I did.

A little boonie told me "Mafia"

Okay so... we will leave the thread open so we can partner hunt, Noraa is confirmed scum.

Which once again points to Guillatina slot partner equity.

oh ok

[Cabd]

@Regan

Things I want sorted before we murder noraa and get revenge for the three headed hydra:


1: Noraa's driver to confirm the targeting and results were shared
2: I want to put out that drivers should target me only on even nights, so you are welcome to come visit me tonight if you'd like. All you'll get is a hood but those are really strong gamesolving tools right now!
3: I want to hear more from the lurkmass. Specifically, I want more out of Maria, LLD, Beeboy, Noname, and Dunn. (DUnn's content tonight is a good start though!)
4: I want to clarify that Flavor Leaf is VERY fucking town this game, don't kill him, kthnx.

[REAGAN BUSH 84]

cabd if nothing else can u give ur reaction to this part of my post, rest is kind of obviously *~just our opinions man~* but chewing on this would be nice

I think the biggest, most obvious reason I can give for him being town is the timing of him looking at other wagons and the result he got from doing so. 1255 into 1314 is EXTREMELY strong play from Guillotina scum imo. Scum Guillotina decides he's not going on Cakez, goes to look for someone else to push, and instead of cooking up some bullshit reason to vote Gamma he actually recognizes he's town and holds off.

This sequence is out of his range for sure imo

My initial reaction to this WITHOUT the reread is "But like, Cakez was defo going down by then and gamma was gonna be the obvtown counterwagon that would be called globally town, why would you vote it at this point?"

I think it's really weird how you go between giving Guillotina a lot of credit here, and then absolutely zero in others. Cakez defo going down contradicts the later vote carousel w/ Noraa->LLD->Cakez. I think Guillotina's demonstrated level+his struggle with keeping up with the game to begin with suggest that even if he saw Cakez was going down, spending 15 minutes reading Gamma just to defend him makes zero sense.

What your expectations are from this slot as scum-high, low, somewhere in between?

[Flavor Leaf]

the vast majority are... chatty.

Cobra out here exposing my true nature. How dare you.
VOTE: Cobra

Holy fuck its already page 18?

*rubs my glasses furiously*
no
effing
way

Did I miss RVS?
NoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoO

VOTE: Noraa

Lol, I had it immediately 2 games in a row now.

[Cabd]

Please don't end the day quite yet.

Kthnx.

[Cobra Kai]

I think we need to keep drivers hidden because blades are useless without them. Unless they’re pairing with scummy people then it’s their fault.

[unwnd]

I feel decent about the blade I linked with, and yes Brian I agree them using an ability on the dead target means nothing lol

[Cabd]

cabd if nothing else can u give ur reaction to this part of my post, rest is kind of obviously *~just our opinions man~* but chewing on this would be nice

I think the biggest, most obvious reason I can give for him being town is the timing of him looking at other wagons and the result he got from doing so. 1255 into 1314 is EXTREMELY strong play from Guillotina scum imo. Scum Guillotina decides he's not going on Cakez, goes to look for someone else to push, and instead of cooking up some bullshit reason to vote Gamma he actually recognizes he's town and holds off.

This sequence is out of his range for sure imo

My initial reaction to this WITHOUT the reread is "But like, Cakez was defo going down by then and gamma was gonna be the obvtown counterwagon that would be called globally town, why would you vote it at this point?"

I think it's really weird how you go between giving Guillotina a lot of credit here, and then absolutely zero in others. Cakez defo going down contradicts the later vote carousel w/ Noraa->LLD->Cakez. I think Guillotina's demonstrated level+his struggle with keeping up with the game to begin with suggest that even if he saw Cakez was going down, spending 15 minutes reading Gamma just to defend him makes zero sense.

What your expectations are from this slot as scum-high, low, somewhere in between?

Think guillatina is a high quality player masquerading as a middle quality player.

I am certainly not nearly as certain about this read as I was cakez, or as I am about Noraa.

Hence the tiered list.

[Gamma Emerald]

Really curious who this driver was...already have some suspicions

if my driver wants to claim, they can.

okay so at a certain point I realized based on the results Noraa got it was better to make this clear earlier rather than later, yes I was her driver, and I also received the same information she did from her action.
In addition there's some stuff I feel like talking about that she said in our link PT. She talked about trying to bait NK on her, and the way she's described her ability has a sort of variability I think is more likely to be town just not focusing on the same detail vs. scum failing to keep their story straight. I'd compared her in another game to Tywin Lannister in Mini Normal 1905, who had claimed rolecop but called himself cop a few times. I feel like that sort of inconsistency is more towny because it's semi-stable with the claim but it means they aren't so worried about consistency that they aren't filtering down every little thing that doesn't line up about what they are saying.
Another thing I'd like to discuss involves how I perceived her power she used as strong. After I saw what it actually did, I changed my mind about it. But I can definitely see how that could be the perception if thinking about it as a rolecop. But it essentially is a blade cop, which isn't nearly as powerful, except for drivers I guess, to clarify possible targets for linking. She'd said she'd get on looking at who would be told her investigative result exactly, but she never told me, and idk if clarifying it publicly is wise? I'll leave it to her. That also is why I figured I'd claim, so I wouldn't get leered at for concealing that I knew the same thing she did, which actually has a tangible effect for me.

[Flavor Leaf]

I feel decent about the blade I linked with, and yes Brian I agree them using an ability on the dead target means nothing lol

You should take a cab.

Go call a taxi.

[Cabd]

I feel decent about the blade I linked with, and yes Brian I agree them using an ability on the dead target means nothing lol

You should take a cab.

Go call a taxi.

Just make sure you don't end up on....

The cash cabd.

./ducks

[REAGAN BUSH 84]

Mmmm, that's fair. My expectations are definitely a lot lower, and Reagan seems to think the same even though MU's aversion to bussing bothers him+the plurality voting there making the strategy you're describing more plausible.

At the risk of being offensive to Guillotina I just...don't see him even thinking to think that many layers deep to begin with. It has nothing to do with someone's intelligence or anything like that, it's just picking up on+correctly reacting to those currents that you're describing w/r/t the Gamma vote comes with a lot more experience.

I think the way he replaced out also shows this. He clearly had very little clue of what was going on this game to begin with, the pace was very much not what he expected.

[Gamma Emerald]

I am 100% NOT OKAY with eliminating Noraa here. If you do so and she flips town I will make an effort to comandeer this game's direction assuming I have the energy to and don't get drowned out. Because Noraa is obvtown to me and eliminating her over someone who is NOT obvtown makes me really skeptical of whether I want to continue following your lead.

[Flavor Leaf]

Battle Mage
beeboy
Bell
Brian Skies
Cabd
Cobra Kai
Dunnstral
Firebringer
Flavor Leaf - Did not have a Driver-Blade link.
Gamma Emerald
Guillotina
l4pe
Lady Lambdadelta
ManWithNoName
MariaR
midwaybear
noraa
REAGAN BUSH 84
unwnd - Did have a Driver-Blade link.
Will catch up later maybe

[Flavor Leaf]

noraa is conf scum.

[REAGAN BUSH 84]

Think guillatina is a high quality player masquerading as a middle quality player.

I am certainly not nearly as certain about this read as I was cakez, or as I am about Noraa.

Hence the tiered list.

will just say it's explicitly not true, they're nooby as hell, like i said, seen some of his games offsite on MU, not an alt or anything. can link the profile but that site's search function sucks ass. that said i disagree with the VP in that i think there's a chance he could be scum anyway

[Cobra Kai]

Gamma, am I scum?

You can’t discredit my day play and crumbing stuff here, too. It’s not going to work when I’m still alive.

[Cobra Kai]

And I’m not saying you’re scum for it but come on dude.

[Cabd]

The ability of players to be obtuse this game is quite impressive.

[Flavor Leaf]

Guillo could be town, but I think Nacho hydra is scum in that scenario majority of the time.