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[Flavor Leaf]

Like, I’m very self orientated right now, i get it, but i feel I’ve been extremely clear on all my reads this entire game, I’ve been active, I’ve been answering any thoughts or questions, I’ve reconsidered my reads, now understand why I need to make sure that I focus on myself here.

If I am faded, town will lose.

I know how it looks.

But whichever town of you is out there, please do not fade me. I have multiple games on record, I think even two this year, where I was town, and I was the game losing misfade in 5p elo.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yeah, I realize two players are gonna play me, DkKoba played me like a fiddle and I am more weary now.

[Flavor Leaf]

Zoeys extraordinary playlist was a game it happened in this year

[DrippingGoofball]

N_Mscum could have roleblocked FLtown then confirmed that JV failed to receive the message but that seems like a high risk, low pay off, galaxy brain move.

[Flavor Leaf]

Okay, look, I have reasons to believe every single one of you guys could be town.

VP - I’ve felt this way all game, I felt like there was a chance you could be scum pocketing me, and we were on the same side a bunch of times this game.

Not Mafia - I’m tone reading you hard as town, but i always do that when you are scum. I’ve been actively speaking out for a while now, not even just this game, that you are not unreadable, and I feel like I’ve shown you that I actively try to read you based on what you do.

A50 - he doesn’t interact with me when he’s scum, or if he does, it comes off super fake, like he’s weary of me. I caught him hard once when I was trolling all game, then stopped trolling and solved Day 4, but I have also caught him out multiple times immediately after him replacing in, even on Day 1. I’m usually solid at being comfortable town reading A50. I was earlier in the game, before he disappeared.

DGB - i scum read you all game. We keep getting pushed as the scum team, so that makes me go 50/50 with your slot because I do think scum were tying me to you and Kkoba, regardless if it’s you that is doing it. You don’t seem to be taking much direct action, which i think scum is taking action. You stated you town read me, though, and I’m 50/50 with what I think about it.


2 of these reasons aren’t real, and that’s what I’m working with right now.

[DrippingGoofball]

The simplest explanation is FLscum not sending JV town a message.

But it would have been safer to send a message to the NK or to another buddy ( though this might be risky)

[Flavor Leaf]

N_Mscum could have roleblocked FLtown then confirmed that JV failed to receive the message but that seems like a high risk, low pay off, galaxy brain move.

I don’t necessarily think it would have been planned to work that way. If scum roleblocked me, and he claimed voyeur, it actually helps make his claim more believable and he already would know my action was blocked so coming into thread seeing the fight.

Not saying that’s what happened, it’s just what happened if they are scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

FL your reasons for townreading A50 may be convincing to you, but they are not to me.

[DrippingGoofball]

N_Mscum could have roleblocked FLtown then confirmed that JV failed to receive the message but that seems like a high risk, low pay off, galaxy brain move.

I don’t necessarily think it would have been planned to work that way. If scum roleblocked me, and he claimed voyeur, it actually helps make his claim more believable and he already would know my action was blocked so coming into thread seeing the fight.

Not saying that’s what happened, it’s just what happened if they are scum.

It would require a certain level of creativity from N_M.... a level i am not sure exists.

[DrippingGoofball]

I am at that point where I make points and then immediately make the counterpoint LOL

[VP Baltar]

FL, I truly do want to figure out if you're town here. You see what I'm saying about how weird it is you're saying all the claimed PRs are town though, right?

[Flavor Leaf]

FL your reasons for townreading A50 may be convincing to you, but they are not to me.

That’s fair. I am aware, and it’s a read I haven’t pushed for days. His lurking out changed it for me, but it’s still the fact that I trust my gut, if that makes sense. I’m not really trying to convince you guys with those reasons, I’m more just trying to explain where I’m coming from. It’s honestly not enough for me to say A50 isn’t scum anymore, because I think my reasons for town reading everyone are solid reasons to town read them, that just means 2 players did well.

I think it’s VP because I think he’s a strong enough player to have orchestrated this. That’s essentially why I think I’m leaning you, VP.

I don’t see any of the others as that type to be able to gambit like that. A50 might do a solo gambit, but he was mia.

Not Mafia is good scum, but I don’t think he would communicate with his team that much.

Unless Dkk just was doing the most as scum, which I guess was possible.

[VP Baltar]

I am at that point where I make points and then immediately make the counterpoint LOL

Haha, this is absolutely me in endgame....gahhhhh

[DrippingGoofball]

i think im comfortable outting a little flash reads chart based on entrance tone:

towny:
andres, taylor, ndmath

null: anyone not listed in above or below

scummy(god pls someone do something to let me narrow this down more):

goofball, shellyc, infinity, zdenek

You SR'd my slot off of ONE post (that was obviously a joke, mind you)??

This feels a little honk honk here's the bus.

[Flavor Leaf]

FL, I truly do want to figure out if you're town here. You see what I'm saying about how weird it is you're saying all the claimed PRs are town though, right?

For what it’s worth, normals I mod generally used to have like 6 town PR’s, not like OP roles, but you shouldn’t know scum’s last PR’s so certainly, so I don’t understand how you could think 1 town PR difference changes things?

Scum have another PR, I think it’s possible there’s a world where Not Mafia is town.

I came in earlier this day phase specifically stating that I thought Not Mafia was always scum here, which directly means I came in thinking the exact opposite of what you just accused me of.

[Flavor Leaf]

Not Mafia and A50 team?

[VP Baltar]

I think it’s VP because I think he’s a strong enough player to have orchestrated this. That’s essentially why I think I’m leaning you, VP.

I mean, I appreciate the compliment, but I've never pulled a gambit like that. As scum I'm just better at managing the social game. Mechanics and role trickery are not my strong suit

[Flavor Leaf]

You know what, both times I lost to Not Mafia, it was because I town read him and defended him.he could have been playing this entire game around that knowledge.

I don’t know him as a person, just a player.

[Flavor Leaf]

Hey, VP, if you vote Not Mafia, you can hammer check DGB and I here.

[VP Baltar]

If Andres was still around, I fully believe he would have voted already. I wish I had the guts for that

[Almost50]

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Thanks for making me google it, DGB. Do NOT count on me ever keeping a memory of it though.

[Flavor Leaf]

He would have voted Not Mafia as well. We all know he town read me so hard

[Flavor Leaf]

Don’t hammer test, Bp, don’t

[Flavor Leaf]

I panicked when I saw A50, then remembered it was all a big joke to begin with.

I planned this part too. And the last part.

[Flavor Leaf]

I saw me hit Bp instead of vp as well, and still clicked send.