Open 800 - Donner Party | Game Over

[DoubtingThomas]

literally like the only people he ever talks about/to is

Guillotina, Tayl0r, pob long, Gamma, Chaos, catboi

Probably ignores the buddies.

agreed

[DoubtingThomas]

Doubting is just hard to sort and I honestly kinda think they are scum atm if gamma is scum.

cuz Plus "being scum" benefits Doubting the most.

But if gamma is a buddy that killed plus who was a vig ....

yeah idk.

I have never been in a game where flips are like this.

I struggle.

imma let table take the reins. this is all very confusing for me. legitimately.

-nornor

lol you think i am scum? that's pretty bad, tbh

[DoubtingThomas]

BM was honestly pretty towny as well.

serious question - how?

you realize 95% of his posts are actually just talking about me?

[Chaos Triforce]

BM was honestly pretty towny as well.

serious question - how?

you realize 95% of his posts are actually just talking about me?

being tunneled is certainly normally town indicative.

-nornor

[DoubtingThomas]

if BM were town vig, he kills me there 100% of the time. i think. he's annoyed at me and thought i had likely scum equity and believed i gave a lot of info.

he's not the town vig because I didn't die. He has to be scum and Gamma is telling the truth, or Gamma is just throwing away the game for no reason if he's anything but town vig rn.

yep. gamma is self resolving.

no, don't try to argue.

BM town vig always kills me. period.

[DoubtingThomas]

if he was that tunneled, why doesn't he kill me???????????????????

are you thinking hard enough?

[DoubtingThomas]

like he's either town vig whose push on me was sincere, (which obviously isn't because i didnt die) or he's just scum or sk.

gamma wouldnt out herself rn if he wasnt scum or sk.

why would town vig!BM not kill me?

on second thought, i remembered that if he hit the SK, then maybe. but that would have to make ME SK and also never scum partner with gamma?

[DoubtingThomas]

if I am SK, and Gamma was supposed scum vig who found out that BM was town vig, why would gamma ever claim here? i'd probably most likely kill her

sk has to kill gamma in that case because town no longer has a vig and is at a big disadvantage. i dont think any scum would out like gamma did for no reason.

[DoubtingThomas]

bm is never town vig because i didnt die, unless i am exactly SK. in that case, gamma outting here doesnt make any sense

so i think the correct conclusion is bm is not the town vig here and gamma is not sk nor scum vig because it doesnt make sense for them to out the information unless they are town vig

[DoubtingThomas]

:nod: i think gamma is just town vig here because I am not SK also. ok! who are we killing then @Gamma

[DoubtingThomas]

holy shit did i just solve the game?

[DoubtingThomas]

well not solve, but i think we are in good position

[Chaos Triforce]

or Gamma is just throwing away the game for no reason if he's anything but town vig rn.

Gamma is either 1) the vig or 2) someone that killed a true vig last night.

If gamma killed the vig, why is it game throwing to claim vig?

No one will cc.

Why is it game throwing?

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

if he was that tunneled, why doesn't he kill me???????????????????

are you thinking hard enough?

Well guillo vig works too.

Gamma killing Guillo and then claiming to kill BM works technically. Cuz if Guillo was vig, then there's no vig to cc a kill and whoever the other evil faction is isn't gonna cc.

-nornor

[Chaos Triforce]

like he's either town vig whose push on me was sincere, (which obviously isn't because i didnt die) or he's just scum or sk.

gamma wouldnt out herself rn if he wasnt scum or sk.

why would town vig!BM not kill me?

on second thought, i remembered that if he hit the SK, then maybe. but that would have to make ME SK and also never scum partner with gamma?

if I am SK, and Gamma was supposed scum vig who found out that BM was town vig, why would gamma ever claim here? i'd probably most likely kill her

sk has to kill gamma in that case because town no longer has a vig and is at a big disadvantage. i dont think any scum would out like gamma did for no reason.

bm is never town vig because i didnt die, unless i am exactly SK. in that case, gamma outting here doesnt make any sense

so i think the correct conclusion is bm is not the town vig here and gamma is not sk nor scum vig because it doesnt make sense for them to out the information unless they are town vig

wifom .... is .... fucking ... confusing

[DoubtingThomas]

if Gamma is SK, scum kills them

if Gamma is scum, SK kills them

???

[DoubtingThomas]

Well guillo vig works too.

at this point, you aren't really trying to solve anything. just trying to shade everything you can. looks conf biasing.

noted.

[Aristophanes]

You know what, something percolated in my think pan that makes Noraa probably a bit more sus. Nearly every time Noraa has hydra slipped she has posted something self-demeaning. The thing is, scum!Noraa uses AtE as a weapon, so it could be she’s self-flagellating to make people not pressure her as much?

I took a look at this, ftr, and I don't think I see what you're saying. The posts feel no more AtE than any other post from them imo.

Also, if Noraa was weaponizing alt-slips I would be extremely disappointed in them as it goes against the spirit of hydras/alts and may even be rule breaking. For that reason I am going to assume that they are not doing this.

[Gamma Emerald]

Him repeatedly insisting he wasn't going to b eliminated = nooby softclaim.

That makes sense.

But I ALSO spoke like that. So Noraa can’t really believe that and push me at the same time.

[Aristophanes]

I was always claiming after eating a scum. Removes me as a suspect for dietician, and let’s Roleblocker know that 1) they shouldn’t block me and 2) blocking scum = blocking a kill, and vice versa
I probably won’t be acting at night for now to give Roleblocker a better chance to catch scum/clear town

Well now this is also sus. I may be confbiasing BUT hear me out. I've been sussing gamma since a LONG time ago.

The moment he claimed vig, I was like ok, if there's no cc, fine, gamma's prob town.

But then I realized something. Gamma is either a vig or someone that killed a big yesterday. Those are the only possibilities, no?

Then, I was thinking about how I would be able to tell gamma truly was a vig. The ONLY way is if there are 3 kills tonight. Cuz that proves that there IS a vig and since no one cc'ed, it has to be gamma.

Then in this post, gamma says he's gonna holster.

I might be confbiasing but the more gamma talks the more worried I am that he is just scum that killed vig last night.

-nornor

Noraa, there is so much wrong with the logic in this post. Would you like me to go through it with you or simply point to the setup?

[chkflip]

Can we get some Triforce votes, please?

[Gamma Emerald]

:nod: i think gamma is just town vig here because I am not SK also. ok! who are we killing then @Gamma

Just because I’m town for sure doesn’t mean I’m gonna magically have good reads. I’m probably gonna follow chk’s lead here as long as he doesn’t resort to cheap shots that take my goodwill towards him and tosses it in the waste bin. Like seriously, I legitimately was wanting to ask about his meta reads and once DGB called me scummy for asking about them chk just became that asshole in the background that jeers alongside the diss.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Chaos Triforce
Sure. @chkflip

[Aristophanes]

Yeah, so I read the last 2 pages now and like, I think I have a tell on Noraa actually and I think they are definitely scumposting here.

What's the VC at? I think this is definitely the Elim today but I don't want to end things prematurely.

[Marashu]

Official Vote Count 2.03

Elimination

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to eliminate someone.

Chaos Triforce

(3): pob long, chkflip, Gamma Emerald

JohnnyFarrar

(2):DoubtingThomas, catboi

Gamma Emerald

(1):Chaos Triforce

Not voting

(3): JohnnyFarrar, DrippingGoofball, Aristophanes

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-11-28 15:48:07).

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